So 39 is an automatic reduction but wondering if someone could take a peek at my SS for the last few days. I knew I was shooting on numbers that were still going down this AM and I did change from shooting the scruff to shooting the shoulder on 8/8. That hadn’t made a difference when I was using other Insulins but this time it looks like it’s definitely having an effect. she was completely flat in the 200s last night until +10 and even that wasn’t a significant drop. Question is- do you think the 200s were a bounce from being so low yesterday? I’m used to seeing bounces higher than 200s with more fluctuation and not flat. Any advice on the reduction? Would you do a full.25 or just shave the dose a bit? I feel like all I’m doing is going back and forth between 3.5 and 4 with no consistency to the numbers. Could the change from shooting the scruff to shooting the shoulder have made this much of a difference? Frustrated and haven’t been sleeping much with all the testing. Really trying to work this to some form of consistency. Thanks again as always to anyone who chimes in! PS- no hypo symptoms whatsoever in the 40s or even the 30s we’ve had of late.
When you see #s in the 30s it's time to break out the big guns. You know your cats carb sensitivity but I would be inclined to offer a Tsp of HC food
Please don't wait for 'symptoms'...once they begin - lethargy, wobbling, drooling, etc. it may be too late. Your guide is the blood glucose readings. As Briere Fur Mom mentioned above, please feed your kitty some higher carb food. If you don't have any gravy style foods on hand, give her a couple of drops of honey, sryup, karo syrup, ice cream...just one or two drops should do it. The last test at 39 and then another at 37 is not a good sign that things are going in the right direction. Please test again soon and post with your new number.
Even long term diabetics earn a reduction if they ever go under 40 which I see Little is. She needed that reduction yesterday. . Safety first!
Thanks guys. I actually don’t go for HC right away as LC always brings her back safe and believe me I don’t take my eyes off of her. We’re good at 47 now. Xoxox to all Didn’t mean to freak anyone out.
You know your cat...but here's that but...I wouldn't want my boy playing with the sharks for too long. I would still food prop a 47.
I agree that I would feed and if lc works fine. You want Little over 50 without food for two hours. You didn’t reduce yesterday so that makes this even more crucial.
Any time Luci is down that low, I get more tests...test and test until she's really cleared away from that part of the lagoon...Those numbers can potentially slip back down at any time...scary business if it does. You're doing fine...just keep testing
Thanks Sue. Testing away lately! Her poor ears. Can someone show me how to link a previous thread? I have one from 7/12 where Sienne said some cats “needing to be in the 40’s”. Can’t find anymore Info that speaks to that @Sienne and Gabby (GA) Can you please Shed some more light on that?
Yes. She sai like I did 3 times under 50. Here you go. .https://www.felinediabetes.com/FDMB/threads/dosing-failed-reductions.232188/ I did that with Max. However under 40 you need to reduce every cycle you see that. I also took smaller increases and decreases. Sorry if I missed that you did that.
Couldn’t link the old thread. This is best I can do with my technically challenged self. This is the first time I ever heard anything about some cats needing to be in the 40s. Can someone elaborate. Actually RE reading this it says UNDER 40
Your last Condo: https://felinediabetes.com/FDMB/threads/dosing-failed-reductions.232188/#post-2596351 (easiest way is to open the last Condo, then copy the address and then paste the link into the new condo)
So, if you're using a computer this is easy: Just copy the url from the top bar Here's the one from today: https://www.felinediabetes.com/FDMB/threads/8-11-20-little-39-6.233489/#post-2609353 and click ctrl/v to paste it into your condo. If you want to get a little fancier you can type the words 'Previous Condo' or something along those lines, after you copy it - then click on the link picture at the top of your condo and paste it there...The words 'Previous Condo' will then have the link embedded in it...we do it every day for historical purposes. It's very helpful to know what was said previously.
So I see you've already gotten some explanations... And my rule of thumb is if Luci drops 3 x under 50 and once under 40, she earns a reduction. She's proven to have a hard time holding reductions... I hope this is helpful P.S. Please add AMPS ### to your title for today.
Hi Lisa to link the thread from the day before or any other thread you posted go to it, all the way up top where the picture of the cat is , that is your previous thread or a thread you are looking , it'sall the way at the top in the long are where it starts with https://www.feline diabetes.com/FDMB/threads. That is your previous thread Tap on that and the word copy will appear, hit copy the go to your new post you want to do and put that in where you would start writing, press down in that area and the word paste will appear hit it, it will then appear. I use a tablet. Hope this helps @Lisa and little
I think she is just referencing the part of the protocol that for long term diabetics the reduction occurs for numbers under 40. It sounded to me like the post was a reminder of the protocol, rather than a specific advisement? At least, that's how I read it?
I think Sue explained it. Max also bounced for a year and never held reductions. So around 7 or 8 months of that I started reducing at three under 50. That is VERY AGGRESSIVE and any lurkers should not try that without support from some of us around here a long time or a moderator. It was suggested to me by a moderator. That’s the rule for all diabetics over a year and not before. However, if even long term diabetics get into the 30’s or lower, you take a reduction on the next cycle without exception. Why? Because you have no room for error if they don’t respond quickly to hc and karo and could end up with a symptomatic hypo and a trip to the ER that might not end well. And ALWAYS reduce by a full .25 if they drop under 40. While I’m on my soapbox (sorry for hyjacking your condo) for anyone reading this PLEASE don’t stop testing if you get a low bg test until you are sure your cat is keeping the bg up without food for two hours. Stay safe!
OMG these responses just showed up for me now. Thank you all. I’m still confused. The way I read that thread it says some cats “needing to be in the 40s” and also says “ some members forget about the cat needing to be under 40” is she referring to needing to be under 40 for a reduction ? I would think no cat on insulin should ever be below 40 Maybe I’m just reading it wrong.
Lemme read what was said. Hopefully we can figure it out together Basics.....cat's don't need to be under 40. You take reductions for any # under 50 with newly diagnosed kitties. If kitty is a long term diabetic, doesn't hold reductions well, and you have plenty of data, than you can wait until you get 3 separate #s under 50 before reducing. #s under 40 are an automatic reduction for both newbs and long term diabetic kitties. ETA: Long term diabetic are kitties that have had diabetes for at least a year....but you know that
Lisa, could you please start a new condo/thread for today? It will contain this info: 8/12 Little AMPS 124 We encourage a new condo/thread each day so that everyone starts fresh and we'll respond to that. Thank you!
As Sue mentioned we start a new condo everyday to avoid confusion. Once you start the new condo, I'll share my thoughts, as will others, on your new condo/thread. We want to help you Lisa. We want Little to have the best Lantus experience possible
I’m looking for your new condo. I hope I didn’t scare you but I get nervous when I see people not taking those reductions and may come on a little strong to make my point.
