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9/3/25 Prev Thread Pudgles

..my cat isnt feeling too good and idk what else to do.

he just wails sometimes at night, at certain hours, and i understand it could be his BP (the nurse mentioned so..) but hes been on his medicine almost 2 weeks (have been managing pills..) and i think we’re seeing improvement, but idk. he is acting a bit better but idk whats going on at night/early morning. im so bitter, too, about his poor eyes.

all of this (FD) has just been a gigantic adjustment in not so great ways.. i am sleeping at night (tho its interrupted every few hours..) and he was indoor/outdoor until we had to start insulin therapy/frontloading.. and i know hes safer, which is best, but maybe hes bored and thats why theres cries at night sometimes. he always gets fed and that seems to help. but then a few hours later.. and now his BP.. and everything is making sense now, and i regret i didnt notice before.. but i thought it was the FD and trying to get numbers back. and not like the multiple vets hes seen ever said to watch his BP.

well, im doing some research and everythings connected and im thinking we’re struggling w numbers because of his BP…. its been so stressful and disheartening. we’re almost double the dose we were.. and we seem to keep having to go up (last dose seemed good but wasnt behaving the same as it used to if we had to skip/reduce a day.. which could not be helped cuz he was sick one day, and prior to that he had his appts…) this is not sustainable in any way. how can we just keep going up and up? somethings wrong.

has the BP now caused insulin resistance, are his vessels now damaged, which happens in people?….. is his vision going to be poor from now on? has this been the problem this whole time maybe?.. because we were coming down……. i’m sure my hot house didnt help, maybe even exacerbated it, caused it even, the stress, and im just so disappointed.. and then if his BP gets better, what then?.. whenever that is i guess, do we have to be careful w dosing? or is the damage done?.. or was it just glucose toxicity?.. but we got back to dose, tried any way as we could under conditions.. the board was down a while, and i didnt hear on things for a while, and things here were very hard. i just do not know.

the veterinary establishment is just a failure it feels like as an institution sometimes.. i mean i did my best this last year and we had a really hard time, but he did see vets and not one could mention this could be a problem, to check for it.. like, high BP can cause vomiting, and his BP was 240 at the hospital.. the damn vet there couldnt expand/emphasize on that? or did she not really connect it? she wrote in her stupid notes tho he was hypertensive, which of course i read much, much later. in general, apparently 1/3 older cats get hypertension….. and so who to take him to? does anyone know what theyre doing? you pay for experts to be experts and i have to do everything it seems. but i dont have knowledge on all things until i do and he saw people!!! and then.. sometimes.. when i come on here, threads and questions dont get attention or answers….. i understand the site is a volunteer, layman basis and we have appreciated things so much cuz none of this is easy and its a way to healing, but w this past year it hasnt felt great.. the board going down also was not fun.. sometimes, if im honest, i dont even want to come on here cuz im not sure if to be a bother.

idk what to do.

this is terrible. abysmal. im confused. and we’re tired here. especially him. just stumbling around in the dark. i dont like seeing my cat not well and not feeling good.. and not sure what to do rn about it..

🙁
 
I'm sorry things are so aggravating for you lately! You've done your very best with Pudge. Please don't discount your efforts in any way.
Did he go out at night before? It could be that. If the bp is causing his bg to go up, you would think that the medication that's lowering his bp would cause the numbers to go back down? What about the other normal pain-causing issues? Teeth? Is it possibly arthritis? Have you ever looked at the grimace charts which show if a cat is in pain? Does he seem to be in pain based on those charts? Pain can certainly cause their bg to go up. I'm sure you've researched--there are so many things that can cause crying at night. Even cognitive decline in older cats. I sure wish you could get to the bottom of this.
 
9/3/25 Prev Thread Pudgles

..my cat isnt feeling too good and idk what else to do.

he just wails sometimes at night, at certain hours, and i understand it could be his BP (the nurse mentioned so..) but hes been on his medicine almost 2 weeks (have been managing pills..) and i think we’re seeing improvement, but idk. he is acting a bit better but idk whats going on at night/early morning. im so bitter, too, about his poor eyes.

all of this (FD) has just been a gigantic adjustment in not so great ways.. i am sleeping at night (tho its interrupted every few hours..) and he was indoor/outdoor until we had to start insulin therapy/frontloading.. and i know hes safer, which is best, but maybe hes bored and thats why theres cries at night sometimes. he always gets fed and that seems to help. but then a few hours later.. and now his BP.. and everything is making sense now, and i regret i didnt notice before.. but i thought it was the FD and trying to get numbers back. and not like the multiple vets hes seen ever said to watch his BP.

well, im doing some research and everythings connected and im thinking we’re struggling w numbers because of his BP…. its been so stressful and disheartening. we’re almost double the dose we were.. and we seem to keep having to go up (last dose seemed good but wasnt behaving the same as it used to if we had to skip/reduce a day.. which could not be helped cuz he was sick one day, and prior to that he had his appts…) this is not sustainable in any way. how can we just keep going up and up? somethings wrong.

has the BP now caused insulin resistance, are his vessels now damaged, which happens in people?….. is his vision going to be poor from now on? has this been the problem this whole time maybe?.. because we were coming down……. i’m sure my hot house didnt help, maybe even exacerbated it, caused it even, the stress, and im just so disappointed.. and then if his BP gets better, what then?.. whenever that is i guess, do we have to be careful w dosing? or is the damage done?.. or was it just glucose toxicity?.. but we got back to dose, tried any way as we could under conditions.. the board was down a while, and i didnt hear on things for a while, and things here were very hard. i just do not know.

the veterinary establishment is just a failure it feels like as an institution sometimes.. i mean i did my best this last year and we had a really hard time, but he did see vets and not one could mention this could be a problem, to check for it.. like, high BP can cause vomiting, and his BP was 240 at the hospital.. the damn vet there couldnt expand/emphasize on that? or did she not really connect it? she wrote in her stupid notes tho he was hypertensive, which of course i read much, much later. in general, apparently 1/3 older cats get hypertension….. and so who to take him to? does anyone know what theyre doing? you pay for experts to be experts and i have to do everything it seems. but i dont have knowledge on all things until i do and he saw people!!! and then.. sometimes.. when i come on here, threads and questions dont get attention or answers….. i understand the site is a volunteer, layman basis and we have appreciated things so much cuz none of this is easy and its a way to healing, but w this past year it hasnt felt great.. the board going down also was not fun.. sometimes, if im honest, i dont even want to come on here cuz im not sure if to be a bother.

idk what to do.

this is terrible. abysmal. im confused. and we’re tired here. especially him. just stumbling around in the dark. i dont like seeing my cat not well and not feeling good.. and not sure what to do rn about it..

🙁
Awww I’m so sorry to hear it’s been so hard. You’re doing such a great job advocating for your seeet boy 💞

I’m sure he may miss going outside, but it’s so much safer for him to be inside with all of the things you’re handling for him.
And if you couldn’t find him to give insulin, that would be really bad.

When Ivy broke her leg two years ago and I had to keep her contained in one room and I had to keep a soft cone on her for several months pretty much 24/7 so that she would not lick her surgery site.
They didn’t want the leg to get infected, so I had to do some tough love with myself to remind myself that what I was doing was for her best interest in the long run.
Even though I know she was unhappy, staying in one room where she couldn’t use any steps or try to jump on any furniture, and I had to lock her in there at night. It broke my heart to do that because she had never slept away from me up until that point.
So I had to dig deep and keep reminding myself that I was doing everything possible to keep her as a safe as I possibly could so she didn’t make anything any worse than it already was. It was a pretty bleak time, and I did a lot of crying.
So I understand how sad you’re feeling, and how helpless and hopeless it feels.
But you’re doing everything you can and you’re reading and your researching and you’re questioning and trying to get as many answers as you can to help your sweet Pudge.

As far as trying to get questions answered here, I can only suggest maybe trying to put a question in your title. I have a feeling if there’s no question it may just get overlooked because there’s so much volume here that everyone looks for problems to help solve.

Sending you lots of hugs and healing vines for your sweetie 🍀🍀🍀🍃🍃🍃🍀🍀
He is so lucky to have you 😻❤️‍🩹💞
 
It’s such a difficult thing you’ve signed up to do and Pudge is so so lucky to have you take it on. It’s incredibly heartbreaking and disheartening at times. So many inexplicable things and then so many things that hav explanations that were not equipped to identify and how frustrating when the experts and people were meant to trust (vets) can’t figure it out for us either. Of course, cats are amazing at hiding symptoms and I try to remember as a vet, unless they’re a specialist, it must be so hard to know everything about every disease/issue a cat might have. But you’re right, if things are common for older cats and they saw signs of issues, you’d expect them to flag it. Glad you know now what one more piece of the might be with Pudge’s BP. Hopefully the medication starts doing its thing. Binx too went from 2-2.5 units to now at 4.5. Even this morning I was dreading increasing because it feels like a step backward, especially when you know it could/has been less. Echoing everything everyone’s said above. Keep searching and keep taking notes of what you see from Pudge. It may not give you the perfect answer but hopefully with some healing time and your love, which we know you absolutely give, he will see some better doses. What is great is how much blue and green I see in his sheet - that’s great for his healing.
🖤🖤
 
I'm sorry things are so aggravating for you lately! You've done your very best with Pudge. Please don't discount your efforts in any way.
Did he go out at night before? It could be that. If the bp is causing his bg to go up, you would think that the medication that's lowering his bp would cause the numbers to go back down? What about the other normal pain-causing issues? Teeth? Is it possibly arthritis? Have you ever looked at the grimace charts which show if a cat is in pain? Does he seem to be in pain based on those charts? Pain can certainly cause their bg to go up. I'm sure you've researched--there are so many things that can cause crying at night. Even cognitive decline in older cats. I sure wish you could get to the bottom of this.
i appreciate that a lot.. ❤️‍🔥🫶🏼.. i think im hard on myself maybe but i feel bad about everything cuz i love him.. i made mistakes i didnt mean to and didnt realize some things.. generally just have tried so hard..

yup.. he used to be out night pretty much.. 🥲.. he’d be a gigantic handful otherwise.. (neighborhoods have always been closed.. but i did always worry anyway..) so maybe.. yeah.. and you’d think! 🤔 and we wont know if the meds are working for sure til next week when his pressure is to be checked..

thanks for the grimace reference! i took a look but not sure.. think its pretty much 0.. but maybe one or two things for 1.. but like thats not surprising right cuz we’re trying to help his pressure and sugar.. sigh. 🫤 its good to know tho. poor kitties. 🥲

its just taking time.. i imagine we’ll learn more as we go. i just hate it takes time to feel better.. and just trying to recover frm everything.. and that its lucky to find medical help that knows anything. 😩 thanks for the words.. appreciate our friends here a lot. ❤️‍🔥❤️‍🔥..

hows jude!!! ❤️‍🔥
 
Awww I’m so sorry to hear it’s been so hard. You’re doing such a great job advocating for your seeet boy 💞

I’m sure he may miss going outside, but it’s so much safer for him to be inside with all of the things you’re handling for him.
And if you couldn’t find him to give insulin, that would be really bad.

When Ivy broke her leg two years ago and I had to keep her contained in one room and I had to keep a soft cone on her for several months pretty much 24/7 so that she would not lick her surgery site.
They didn’t want the leg to get infected, so I had to do some tough love with myself to remind myself that what I was doing was for her best interest in the long run.
Even though I know she was unhappy, staying in one room where she couldn’t use any steps or try to jump on any furniture, and I had to lock her in there at night. It broke my heart to do that because she had never slept away from me up until that point.
So I had to dig deep and keep reminding myself that I was doing everything possible to keep her as a safe as I possibly could so she didn’t make anything any worse than it already was. It was a pretty bleak time, and I did a lot of crying.
So I understand how sad you’re feeling, and how helpless and hopeless it feels.
But you’re doing everything you can and you’re reading and your researching and you’re questioning and trying to get as many answers as you can to help your sweet Pudge.

As far as trying to get questions answered here, I can only suggest maybe trying to put a question in your title. I have a feeling if there’s no question it may just get overlooked because there’s so much volume here that everyone looks for problems to help solve.

Sending you lots of hugs and healing vines for your sweetie 🍀🍀🍀🍃🍃🍃🍀🍀
He is so lucky to have you 😻❤️‍🩹💞
staci im trying and just feel crushed by it all.. we’ve had so much not go right and had to fight thru.. but what can we do.. ❤️‍🩹

💯 he needs to be in now.. no doubt about it exactly. im also nervous cuz he also needs to be tested.. so it just doesnt work. and i try to amuse him but know he misses it.. hes done that his whole life. i try to compensate by taking him outside on the patio/sits on a bench w and open window.. but i know its not the same. 🥲 i do know he enjoys that at least when we can do so..

tysm for relaying that to me.. its really hard!!!! ❤️‍🩹❤️‍🩹❤️‍🩹❤️‍🩹❤️‍🔥❤️‍🔥🫶🏼.. omg that trauma.. im sorry it was so long.. and thats my issue too!! takes a while to feel better.. trying to figure it out.. the waitinggggg….. torture. 🫤 tysm for that encouragement.. im telling you, we so appreciate our friend here.. ❤️‍🩹..

sigh. ❤️‍🩹 i do put the question mark.. still nothing at all sometimes. 🫤🙁..

tysm for saying!!!!… i dont always feel that way lol 😅🥲🫶🏼❤️‍🩹
 
It’s such a difficult thing you’ve signed up to do and Pudge is so so lucky to have you take it on. It’s incredibly heartbreaking and disheartening at times. So many inexplicable things and then so many things that hav explanations that were not equipped to identify and how frustrating when the experts and people were meant to trust (vets) can’t figure it out for us either. Of course, cats are amazing at hiding symptoms and I try to remember as a vet, unless they’re a specialist, it must be so hard to know everything about every disease/issue a cat might have. But you’re right, if things are common for older cats and they saw signs of issues, you’d expect them to flag it. Glad you know now what one more piece of the might be with Pudge’s BP. Hopefully the medication starts doing its thing. Binx too went from 2-2.5 units to now at 4.5. Even this morning I was dreading increasing because it feels like a step backward, especially when you know it could/has been less. Echoing everything everyone’s said above. Keep searching and keep taking notes of what you see from Pudge. It may not give you the perfect answer but hopefully with some healing time and your love, which we know you absolutely give, he will see some better doses. What is great is how much blue and green I see in his sheet - that’s great for his healing.
🖤🖤
isnt it inexplicable??? ❤️‍🩹❤️‍🩹 thanks so much for saying.. its been difficult. honestly. just glad too we know more…… finally. and i hope the meds work soon too.. if that is the case. wont know for sure till next pressure check this coming week. ugh..

trying trying always we are right.. 🫶🏼❤️‍🩹❤️‍🔥❤️‍🩹 thats the hope.. im just confused w dosing.. how much higher does it have to go?.. i just dont know. im scared and really concerned. ☹️☹️ its frustrating 💯 and sad….. tysm for saying his blues/greens look good tho! i mostly hear it could be better.. and just chasing trying to get back.. which i agree w and want desperately.. but nice to hear it also looks good lol..

thank u for that friend!!! 🫶🏼❤️‍🩹❤️‍🩹 And thats my hope.. that all our work is still doing and amounting to something…. ☹️
 
staci im trying and just feel crushed by it all.. we’ve had so much not go right and had to fight thru.. but what can we do.. ❤️‍🩹

💯 he needs to be in now.. no doubt about it exactly. im also nervous cuz he also needs to be tested.. so it just doesnt work. and i try to amuse him but know he misses it.. hes done that his whole life. i try to compensate by taking him outside on the patio/sits on a bench w and open window.. but i know its not the same. 🥲 i do know he enjoys that at least when we can do so..

tysm for relaying that to me.. its really hard!!!! ❤️‍🩹❤️‍🩹❤️‍🩹❤️‍🩹❤️‍🔥❤️‍🔥🫶🏼.. omg that trauma.. im sorry it was so long.. and thats my issue too!! takes a while to feel better.. trying to figure it out.. the waitinggggg….. torture. 🫤 tysm for that encouragement.. im telling you, we so appreciate our friend here.. ❤️‍🩹..

sigh. ❤️‍🩹 i do put the question mark.. still nothing at all sometimes. 🫤🙁..

tysm for saying!!!!… i dont always feel that way lol 😅🥲🫶🏼❤️‍🩹
I agree, his spreadsheet looks good. And as they say, a cat needs as much insulin as they need. So try not to worry too much about having to give an increase.

I know you do post a question in your title, just wanted to put it out there and make sure you know it’s ok to do that.
You do so much good for Pudge.
We all try to lift each other up and offer support and suggestions.
We can’t know everything. Even the vets don’t know it all as was mentioned.

Keep on going, he’s such a lucky boy and I know he loves you and all the opportunities you give him to enjoy his days 🫶❤️‍🩹😘
 
isnt it inexplicable??? ❤️‍🩹❤️‍🩹 thanks so much for saying.. its been difficult. honestly. just glad too we know more…… finally. and i hope the meds work soon too.. if that is the case. wont know for sure till next pressure check this coming week. ugh..

trying trying always we are right.. 🫶🏼❤️‍🩹❤️‍🔥❤️‍🩹 thats the hope.. im just confused w dosing.. how much higher does it have to go?.. i just dont know. im scared and really concerned. ☹️☹️ its frustrating 💯 and sad….. tysm for saying his blues/greens look good tho! i mostly hear it could be better.. and just chasing trying to get back.. which i agree w and want desperately.. but nice to hear it also looks good lol..

thank u for that friend!!! 🫶🏼❤️‍🩹❤️‍🩹 And thats my hope.. that all our work is still doing and amounting to something…. ☹️
Hope is sometimes hard when things start adding up, but glad you still have it ❤️‍🩹❤️‍🩹 Good luck this coming week with the BP recheck! Will be sending all the healing vines your way 🍃🍃🍃🍃
 
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