9/7 So long for now, sweet Charlie girl

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  1. charliesmom

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    This morning, charlie is still real weird. She does not react well to these strong anesthetics and pain killers. Her body is still half asleep. She tries to get up and walk but then her legs collapse under her. Just now she fell completely on top of her water dish with her whole body. We put the water away so she doesn't risk falling in it again and drowning.
    A few moments ago she let out a few very weird cries and moans. She is confused and disoriented and it is hard to see her like this.

    She is now laying in the corner with her eyes half closed looking grumpy. Even though it is technically day 14, we cannot test her this morning. Maybe tonight it will be better? I really hope so.

    jill

    yesterday
     
  2. Denise & Honey

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    Hope Charlie is feeling better soon !
     
  3. carfurby (GA)

    carfurby (GA) Well-Known Member

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    Sending prayers for Charlie. Hopefully the meds will wear off soon and she'll feel more normal.
     
  4. Sienne and Gabby (GA)

    Sienne and Gabby (GA) Senior Member Moderator

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    I'd just keep an eye on her. Let the meds work their way out of her system. Charlie may metabolize medications slowly so I would be cautious regarding when and how much meds you give her. It may be that the herbal pain medication is a better choice for her.
     
  5. Cleo & Jane (GA)

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    Hi Jill,

    I hope the meds wear off of Charlie quickly. I had a kitty, Rocko (GA) years ago, who reacted similarly to all anesthesia and pain meds. It showed up when he was a kitten and was neutered and later in life for dentals. I dreaded having him go under for anything. I know hard it is to watch, and how it plays on decisions for care. I hope Charlie is able to clear these meds out of her system quickly. Thinking of you,

    Jane
     
  6. Anne & Zener GA

    Anne & Zener GA Well-Known Member

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    Tons of vines for Charlie and you. I hope she's feeling better soon so she can enjoy her party. Big hugs!
    Liz
     
  7. charliesmom

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    Hi friends,

    Charlie is in shock. We are at the emergency room.
     
  8. Pam & Hoot

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    So sorry Charlie is going thru this. I hope the meds will be out of her system soon. Sending feel better vines to Charlie and you :YMHUG:
     
  9. charliesmom

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    BG sky high. Listless. Eyes wide open and body paralyzed. She's on an IV now. Low PH.
     
  10. Sienne and Gabby (GA)

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    (((Jill)))
    Please keep us updated when you can. I hope they figure out what's going on quickly.

    Please make sure they rule out an allergic reaction to medication. Was Charlie given any antibiotics after the dental? Likewise, narcotic effects may be able to be reversed if that's what's going on.
     
  11. charliesmom

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    I think she is maybe having an allergic reaction to the medicine? We do not know. After 20 mins of IV, still no reaction. I am so sad.
     
  12. Marje and Gracie

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    ((((Jill))))

    I'm just catching up from yesterday. Yes, please keep us posted. We are sending major LL miracle prayers to Charlie.
     
  13. Barbara and tuffy

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    Sending prayers and positive thoughts for Charlie.
     
  14. Pam & Hoot

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    (((((Jill)))))
    Sending whatever it takes vines to get Charlie thru this!!!
    :YMHUG: :YMHUG: :YMHUG: :YMHUG: :YMHUG:
     
  15. Sienne and Gabby (GA)

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    (((Jill))

    20 min. isn't that long for any system to re-orient. This can take time to flush things out. I hope the ER can reach your vet to find out exactly what meds Charlie was given.
     
  16. Josie & Ripley (GA)

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    Sending many vines and love to Charlie, (((Jill)))!!! :YMHUG:
     
  17. Tena and Curry(GA)

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    Keepin' Charlie in my thoughts and prayers. Lots of hugs for you Jill.
     
  18. Frosty

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    Jill. Sending healing vines to Charlie this morning. We have you and Charlie in our Prayers
     
  19. Squeaky and KT (GA)

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    Lots of knees and prayers here....come on sweet baby....

    BIG HUGE HUG JILL!
     
  20. Amy&TrixieCat

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    Sending tons and tons and tons of hugs and prayers....
     
  21. Hillary & Maui (GA)

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    Sending lots of good thoughts and prayers. Come on Charlie, there is a world of beans and kitties supporting you!
     
  22. Tigger's Friend

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    Sending tons of prayers and support that Charlie will recover in short order & the ER will find out all the meds she was given. Also support to you, Jill!
     
  23. Lauren&Tommy (GA)

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    Me too, sending loads of prayers that Charlie comes through this just fine!
     
  24. PeterDevonMocha

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    lots and lots of prayers being sent your way!!
     
  25. charliesmom

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    The vet from yesterday is not working, but I know what she was given because we had long conversations about it;
    - traumeel yesterday AM (herbal pain killer)

    Before surgery:
    Dexdomitor/ medatomedine? (Pre sedative)

    I watched her immediately vomit. The vet said this is common.
    I then didn't see them give the antidote because they took her in for surgery. I wonder if they gave this? But the vet today says that even if they didn't, it should have worn off by now.

    During surgery:
    Propofol anesthetic
    Buprenorphine pain killer

    Post surgery I thought I saw her have a seizure bedore taking her home. Or it was a panic attack. She was then panting extremely heavily and went to the bathroom on me yesterday.

    Last night she was completely out of it.

    This morning as well. She tried to walk and her back feet collapsed underneath her. So we let her rest.
    She again started panting heavily but stopped for a bit so we though she was resting, but her eyes were wide open so it was weird. We went to the store for a short trip and when we came home she was on her back in front of her food dish shaking and panting and very cold.

    The ER vet is keeping her overnight now. 500 euros minimum just for this visit. Ch-ching.
    Thank GOD I again have a job so I can do what's right for her.

    We are going home now and hope that by morning she will be better. This is going to be an awful evening.
    Virtual Belgian beer, with me anyone?

    Thanks for your emotional support.
    And, oh.... CD and big mac, I sent the photos and videos yesterday before all of this, but I think I again jinxed us.
    If we ever arrive at the falls we will throw the biggest party ever and all of you are invited to come to Amsterdam for a nice canal tour and celebration with us.

    Jill
     
  26. BorisV

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    Charlie & Jill, what an ordeal the last few days have been for you both - sending loads of well wishes and prayers & hugs!

    Bern
     
  27. Picknickchick

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    You are a great mom for taking her to the ER.
    The beer's on me.
    Big hugs to you and Charlie!
     
  28. Dyana

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    Sending the strongest of white light and healing vines to Charlie. Is she doing better, now?
     
  29. charliesmom

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    She is still the same. Catatonic with very little reaction. They sent us home and said to call them in the morning.
     
  30. Dyana

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    Saying prayers for her to have the best and wisest of doctors to help her pull through this.
    (((Jill)))
    Come on Charlie, you'll be okay.
     
  31. PeterDevonMocha

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    I'm sorry you guys are going through this . you're in my prayers ..
     
  32. CD and BigMac

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    Oh no! I am so very sorry that Charlie is going through all this. I am sending as many get well thoughts and prayers as possible for your sweet girl. (((((((((((((Many hugs to you and your partner.))))))))))))))))
     
  33. Camille and Cyclone

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    Sending all my best wishes and hopes for Charlie's recovery. You all have been through so much.
     
  34. Jamie & Jupiter

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    Sending prayers and vines for Charlie. Thank you for keeping us updated. *HUGS*
     
  35. Tigger's Friend

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    Oh, Jill, so sorry to hear there is no improvement yet. Sending you our thoughts, prayers, support & encouragement. It'll be a long night.
     
  36. carfurby (GA)

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    Sending prayers for Charlie and hugs to you. :YMHUG: :YMHUG:
     
  37. Barb & Checkers (GA)

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    Oh Jill, I'm so sorry that Charlie is going though this.
    I'm sending up lots of prayers for a full recovery.

    Hugs and prayers for your scared and aching heart too, (((Jill)))
     
  38. Nancy&Pepper (GA)

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    Sending all the vines I can and praying for Charlie.
     
  39. JaniceandSpike

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    Im so sorry to see this and hope for a big improvement for sweet Charlie.
     
  40. Susie and Elian

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    It breaks my heart to read this - just when it was time to celebrate. Sending positive healing thoughts and will be checking in for updates.
     
  41. Michelle and Mannie (GA)

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    I am so sorry to read this, breaks my heart. Hang in there Charlie. All of LL is keeping you in their prayers. Be well little one.
     
  42. julie & punkin (ga)

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    (((jill))) best wishes and prayers for your little one. :YMHUG:
     
  43. Marje and Gracie

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    More prayers for Charlie.....we hope she will make a quick recovery and be back home with you in the morning.
     
  44. Ann & Tess GA

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    Sending tons of healing vines and white light for sweet Charlie. This just sucks when you were so close. Keeping you and Charlie in my thoughts!
     
  45. carolyn & jesse (GA) & spock

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    Praying with everything I have that Charlie will be okay!
     
  46. charliesmom

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    Goodbye, my sweet Charlie.

    They just called and we need to go to the ER. Charlie had a respiratory and cardiac arrest and they cannot revive her. We are going there now to say goodbye.

    What we thought was going to be a celebratory weekend has turned into a complete disaster.
     
  47. carfurby (GA)

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    Jill, I'm so sorry. Sending prayers to you and Lona.
     
  48. Picknickchick

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    Love and prayers to you.
     
  49. Elizabeth&Julia&Margaret(GA)

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    Oh gosh, I'm so sorry. :cry: Sending prayers and hugs to get through this horrible time. Fly free sweet Charlie. wings_cat
     
  50. Tigger's Friend

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    Oh, no, Jill I'm so sorry. There are no words. My heart goes out to you & Charlie...... Fly free, Sweet Charlie, land softly wings_cat
     
  51. Jennifer&Cain(GA)

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    Oh no! I'm so sorry, Jill. So many hugs and love to you. wings_cat

    I hope you don't mind me asking, but do they know what caused Charlie to react like she did?
     
  52. houghtam

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    I am so sorry. I can't even express how sad I am for you. Just know you are a wonderful mom and she had the best life ever because of you. Hugs. :(
     
  53. Ella & Rusty & Stu(GA)

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    Dear ((((Jill)))),

    Tears here, and prayers for Charlie to have a peaceful passing. We are so very sorry to hear this sad news.

    Ella & Rusty
     
  54. Squeaky and KT (GA)

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    Oh Jill...I'm SO SO SO sorry...just isn't fair....BIG HUGE LOOOOONG HUG.

    Fly free sweet baby...you're SO loved and will be missed terribly....
     
  55. Dyana

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    I am so so sorry :( ((((((((Jill)))))))))
     
  56. Pam & Hoot

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    ((((((((Jill))))))))
    Oh I am so sorry to read this :cry:
    Sending prayers to you ♥
     
  57. Ann & Tess GA

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    Oh NO!!! Jill I am so sorry! This is so sudden I don't know what to say. :YMHUG: :YMHUG: :YMHUG:

    Fly Free, Sweet Charlie! You can join all your GA friends at the Bridge and they will have your celebration there in welcome.

    [​IMG]
     
  58. Marje and Gracie

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    Tears of shock and heartbreak for you, Jill. I am just so very sorry .....

    Fly free, Charlie....sweet girl....and you were OTJ! You did it!
     
  59. Tara & Buster

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    What a roller coaster. The happiest time just turned into the saddest. My heart goes out to you. Fly free, dear sweet Charlie. Come back to visit your mama when you've found your way. wings_cat
     
  60. mtncat58

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    Oh poor Charlie sending lots of healing vines to you both
     
  61. Nancy&Pepper (GA)

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    I'm so sorry. This is so unbelievably sad. Prayers for you and Charlie.
     
  62. Anne & Zener GA

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    This is all just so wrong, what should be a day of celebration has become a day of mourning. :cry: We are so very, very sorry for your loss of beloved Charlie. She (and you) worked so hard for this day and to cross to the bridge on her OTJ day is beyond my comprehension. Her OTJ party will be one of remembrance and of honoring her furever loving bean. Sending love and comfort to you as you grieve the passing of Charlie, she made it to the falls.
     

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  63. PeterDevonMocha

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    :cry: Oh, my heart is breaking for you .. I'm so sorry this has happened .. wings_cat Fly Free Charlie ...
     
  64. Barbara and tuffy

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    (((JILL))) I'm so sorry and also shocked. Charlie, fly free and land softly on your golden wings. Sending prayers.

    wings_cat

    "To have loved and then said farewell is better than to have never loved at all.
    For all of the times that you stooped and touched my head, fed me my favorite treat and returned the love that I so unconditionally gave to you.
    For the care that you gave to me so unselfishly.
    For all of these things I am grateful and thankful. I ask that you grieve not for the loss but rejoice in the fact that we lived, loved and touched each other's lives.
    My life was fuller because you were there, not as owner, but as my friend. Today, I am as I was in my youth. The grass is always green, butterflies flit among the flowers and the sun shines gently down upon all of God's creatures. I can run, jump and play and do all of the things that I did in my youth. There is no sickness, no aching joints and no regrets and no aging. We await the arrival of our lifelong companions and know that togetherness is forever. You live in our hearts as we do in yours. Companions such as you are very rare and unique. Don't hold the love that you have within yourself.
    Give it to another like me and then I will live forever. For love never really dies,
    and you are loved and missed as surely as we are."

    There is a bridge of memories from earth to heaven above it keeps our loved ones near us it is a bridge called love.
     
  65. Michelle and Mannie (GA)

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    Jill I am so very very sorry... this brings tears to my heart, my eyes, my mind. so so sorry. There just are not words to express the grief. Fly free Charlie, land softly at the bridge. There are many GA kitties there to guide your way. Prayers for all there.
     
  66. carolyn & jesse (GA) & spock

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    I am so very, very sorry. Crying...
     
  67. Frosty

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    Jill, I am so sorry. Our thoughts and Prayers are with you.
     
  68. Anne & Zener GA

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    (((((Jill))))) My heart is breaking for you. Sweet Charlie.
    Liz
     
  69. Wendy&Tiggy(GA)

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    I am so sorry to hear about your loss.. fly free sweet baby. ((hugs))

    wendy
     
  70. Sienne and Gabby (GA)

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    (((((Jill)))))

    I am so terribly sorry. I feel so badly for you. Like Liz said, today was meant to be a celebration. We will, however, celebrate Charlie's life and all that she meant to you. I only wish I could have done more. Give your sweet girl a kiss for me and wish her a safe trip to the Bridge.

    Fly free sweet Charlie and land oh, so softly. There are many who we love dearly who will be waiting for you at the Bridge to keep you safe until you are reunited with the ones you love best.

    When you are ready, I hope this fable helps to ease the ache in your heart.

    [​IMG]
     
  71. Camille and Cyclone

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    I'm so, so sorry for this terrible, sudden loss on what should have been a happy day. So sorry.
     
  72. Josie & Ripley (GA)

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    Oh no no no.
    I am so sorry.
    Sending you hugs and love and light.
     
  73. Lisa and Do Lou (GA)

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    (((((((((((((prayers and support)))))))))))) so sorry to hear about Charlie
     
  74. charliesmom

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    Thank you to all of our supportive friends from a distance who have brought nothing but warmth and sunshine into our lives this past year and a half. I can't even begin to tell you how thankful I am that I found such reliable, knowledgeable, and caring people to help us this past year.

    We are in a different time zone and yet there has always been someone here to help, guide or just provide emotional support whenever things got scary or in any way technically challenging.

    I will write more tomorrow when I feel stronger.

    We are just so sad this evening. We miss her little soul in our home.

    Usually when we get home, Charlie comes to greet us at the front door. It's always as though she just woke up out of a deep slumber. She sees us at the door, looks up at us with a completely contented kitty look, and then gives us what we call 'the back leg stretch' (sticking one of her legs way back parallel to her body, like a little balance beam gymnast, and stretching it out into thin air). This has always been her little sign of peace and relaxation, and we often laugh whenever we see it since it's her way of saying, 'Hi honeys! You're home! I just woke up. What do you want to do?'

    Tonight, our home feels soul-less.

    We keep thinking that this isn't happening. Sometimes at the brighest of moments, life feels so dark.

    I keep telling myself this is just a cat. I must be crazy, but I feel so helpless that I couldn't do more for her.

    Thank you for always being my rock, my reliable place to come when I didn't know what to do, and my series of friends from a distance. You helped us keep charlie happy and healthy for a long time.
     
  75. BorisV

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    Oh, Jill, so very sorry. There are no words. I just lost Tashie three weeks and a day ago so I grieve deeply with you. Hope that Charile will find Tashie and they can play in the puffy clouds together and have a pain free new life. She never made a peep but it's so quiet without her.

    But she was YOUR cat and you loved her and did ALL you could. Try to get some rest as you must be exhausted. You did EVERYTHING you could EVERYTHING!

    Hugs,
    Bern
     
  76. Jamie & Jupiter

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    Oh no. I am so very sorry for your loss. Sending many comforting thoughts and prayers your way. Fly free sweet Charlie, I know all the kitties will be waiting for you at the bridge to celebrate your otj there.
     
  77. CD and BigMac

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    Oh Jill, I am so sorry about sweet Charlie. This is just shocking and incredibly sad. I feel honored to have seen her wonderful photos and cute videos. She was such an adorable character and I know your hearts are broken. I'm crying with you today.

    ((((((Millions of hugs to you and your partner))))))
     
  78. bettyandhank

    bettyandhank Well-Known Member

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    Jill- This is just heartbreaking. I am so, so very sorry for your devastating loss. Wishing you and you partner comfort during this difficult time.
    Fly free Charlie.

    with sympathy and hugs,

    Betty & Hank
     
  79. mariko

    mariko Well-Known Member

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    (((Jill)))
    I am so sorry for your loss of sweet Charlie.
    Sending prayers to you.
     
  80. Deborah & Shasta

    Deborah & Shasta Well-Known Member

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    Jill, this is so heartbreaking. I know how much you love Charlie and you did everything for her...even got her OTJ! I pray that she watches over you from beyond the Rainbow Bridge. Sending prayers of comfort to you.

    Fly free, sweet Charlie and land softly at the Rainbow Bridge. Continue to look after your mama and family and leave her little reminders that you're still there in spirit.

    [​IMG]
     
  81. MelanieP and Ninja

    MelanieP and Ninja Member

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    My heart breaks for you. I can't stop crying. Charlie girl was such a wonderful spirit! You saved her life many years ago when she was a stray dumpster kitty. You doted on her and gave her as much love as is possible to pack into 13 years. She wanted for nothing....always the center of love.

    This last year and a half you moved mountains to get her the help she needed with her diabetes ...three different insulins...getting Lantus flown into Amsterdam where it was otherwise unavailable.... And finally finding the Levemir that would do the trick in bringing her always volatile bg to the day of remission. You stayed up with her countless nights, jeopardizing your job and your health. You did everything possible for this wonderful girl.

    This last year she got to visit the US and also the south France. By the looks of the photos you posted, she had the time of her life!

    Such a sad, sad, sad day. I hope you find comfort in the fact that every day of Charlie's life was filled with unconditional love, thanks to you. I know she is looking down at you now saying "thanks mom for giving me a great life!" Her spirit is still with you...today and always.

    Love and comfort to you Jill and to Lona.

    Melanie
     
  82. Wendy&Neko

    Wendy&Neko Senior Member Moderator

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    ((((Jill)))) This is such an incredibly sad day today. You and your partner did everything you could for Charlie. You went above and beyond what most would do. Charlie was more than "just a cat"; she was your friend, companion, source of entertainment, and unconditional love.

    Fly free sweet Charlie, land softly. Please send your momma a sign.
     
  83. Doreen and PeePee

    Doreen and PeePee Member

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    Jill, I am so sorry. It is so heartbreaking that it was so sudden. Fly free sweet Charlie. (((((Jill)))))
     
  84. Amy&TrixieCat

    Amy&TrixieCat Well-Known Member

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    I am so very sorry...this is heartbreaking. You, however, are not crazy, she was not "just a cat". We understand your love for sweet Charlie, and you did everything you could, just by loving her endlessly. Even though we are shedding tears for Charlie this evening, we will also be celebrating her beautiful life, and your beautiful love for her. Many thoughts and prayers....
     
  85. Deb & Spot

    Deb & Spot Well-Known Member

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    I am so very sorry for your loss.
     

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  86. Denise & Honey

    Denise & Honey Well-Known Member

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    So sorry to hear of your loss.
    You will always belong to each other.

    Fly free sweet Charlie wings_cat
     
  87. MelissaEbby

    MelissaEbby Member

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    I am so sorry to hear this...I just feel heartbroken for you. You will be in my thoughts. :YMHUG:
     
  88. Hillary & Maui (GA)

    Hillary & Maui (GA) Well-Known Member

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    Of course she is a cat! That is what makes her oh so special indeed!

    I am so very sorry.
    Fly free sweet Charlie, may you soar high and wide and land softly.
    You are much loved and will be sorely missed.

    Please focus on the love you shared, the joy she brought and the fun that was Charlie. And may one day very soon when you think of her you can smile through the tears.
     
  89. Barb & Checkers (GA)

    Barb & Checkers (GA) Well-Known Member

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    NOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!
     
  90. Shai and The Pirate Fitz (GA)

    Shai and The Pirate Fitz (GA) Member

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    Prayers for you and sweet Charlie.

    shai and the pirate fitz (GA)
     
  91. rhiannon and shadow (GA)

    rhiannon and shadow (GA) Well-Known Member

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    Oh Jill. I'm so sorry this has happened. Sending virtual hugs.
    I had started posting in the party condo this morning and didn't get to complete it because of technical problems. After watching such an adorable video of Charlie in her upside down
    celebration..... I was determined to put the word 'congratulations" upside down.... just like Charlie. But it kept putting it on right side up....
    so I left it until we returned from the city this afternoon to continue trying....
    I got on the computer first thing and saw this condo. And just kept saying "no..."and crying as I read the progression of the day....
    I'm so sorry you had to say So Long. You gave her everything... She was so very very loved. And she did make it to the Falls.
    Fly Free Beautiful Charlie. rb_icon

    [​IMG]
     
  92. Sienne and Gabby (GA)

    Sienne and Gabby (GA) Senior Member Moderator

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    ((((Jill)))))
    Charlie was not "just a cat." How could she possibly be relegated to "just" status when she brought you so much joy and so many smiles and touched your heart in so many different ways? She is/was a part of your life and will always live in your heart.

    I know this seems so unreal. It feels unreal to me, as well. There are so many kitties and their caregivers I feel a connection to even though the chances of meeting the caregivers, let alone their kitties, is very remote. We all lost a member of our family today.

    It's been a sad week with two unexpected losses.
     
  93. Tena and Curry(GA)

    Tena and Curry(GA) Well-Known Member

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    Oh Jill.

    I'm in shock. I don't visit much but I did watch Charlie's OTJ celebration really early this morning and was so delighted by your little girl. .....then heard she had been taken to the ER and held my breath. ..then to hear that she had passed...I cried.

    My heart is just breaking for you and your partner. What a sweet, adorable soul..your Charlie. I'm so, so sorry.

    My deepest sympathies.

    The heart and soul of LantusLand is embracing you and your partner in a humongous hug right now.
     
  94. charliesmom

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    It has been a real long, difficult weekend. Really a miserable 24 hours. I still don't really know what happened. The ER vet said they didn't think she had the signs of an allergic reaction to the meds (since often when that happens, the face looks puffy and other things they normally see).

    I just keep thinking that yesterday when we left the vet at 6:30, they were about to close, and charlie had what we thought looked like a seizure in her soft case. Lona noticed it and I took Charlie out of the case to bring her into the vet's office again. The vet took Charlie's temperature and pulse, and said that although her breathing was abnormal (since Charlie started panting), that maybe it was just a panic attack and that Charlie was realising what she was going through and freaking out. The vet office was closing at that time, so I just keep thinking to myself that maybe this was an immediate sign (a seizure or heart attack already happened yesterday at 6:30? and maybe this was an early warning sign of some sort of extreme allergic reaction)? I really don't know.

    I asked the vet yesterday to give charlie fluids during the operation to be sure she didn't dehydrate, and also in case she had a bad reaction to the meds, they would clear more easily. She told me she did that.

    Still, ever since we left the vet yesterday, charlie had been acting very abnormal. Eyes wide open (almost in shock). Laying in 1 place and hardly moving. Unable to control her limbs.
    The panting stopped once we got home last night, so I thought to myself that everything must be fine and maybe the vet was right about the panic attack? Charlie has been, after all, a very nervous animal from day 1.

    This morning though, a few weird things happened:
    - She tried to walk to our room and she fell over on her way there
    - later in the morning we saw her walking a few steps, and her back legs gave out from under her as she walked towards an extra water bowl that we had near her. Her entire body fell on the water bowl. So I picked her up to comfort her and hold her.
    - After that, a few hours later, I found charlie behind the couch when we were almost leaving the house. She was panting again (much less than before, but a little). I waited about 5 minutes, and then it stopped and she just laid down. Although it didn't look completely normal, we thought maybe she was just extremely stressed again and needed to be left alone for some peace. I feel guilty for leaving her at home alone even for a second. I made a mistake there.

    I guess in a way it all doesn't matter now, but I really wish I knew what happened.
    Was it her taxed body that just couldn't take the strong medication yesterday (buprenorphine or dexdomitor and propofol)? Was it something else? The ER vet said that even they were not sure of the cause as charlie's "shock reaction" was not typical.

    It's weird because while we were at the ER tonight, I kept asking, "Isn't it possible that she had a bad allergic reaction already yesterday and needs epinephrine to get out of this state? Couldn't that be what caused her seizure? Could she have had a heart attack last night?" They told me that cats rarely get heart attacks and that it's not like people so that was highly unlikely. They said it didn't look like an allergic reaction.

    When we went home from the ER tonight and they called us after charlie died, we had a closing conversation in the room where charlie was. The vet told us that actually, after a few hours on the IV, charlie started to perk up a bit and walk around her cage and she looked like she was doing better. The vet said the whole event came as a shock to them too. An intern took charlie's pulse, just to check her out, and apparently while taking the pulse, it first looked normal (aside from a slight murmur). The vet said that shortly after taking her pulse, charlie started thrashing about again (seizure or heart attack)? They said she went into cardiac and pulmonary arrest so I guess they figured out that was a heart attack. I wasn't there so I can't compare it to last night, but my God. If she was having a heart attack last night too and the vet just sent us home with her? That seems a bit crazy, even if they were about to close the office?

    I can't blame anyone and I will not. Still, I am sad it all went down this way. I never heard anything previously from any vet about any slight murmur of Charlie's heart? Maybe because other vet's couldn't get that close? Or maybe it was caused by something that happened yesterday?

    It's real sad. It was her time and I should feel relieved that she's not in pain now. In a way, I am. I'm also just real sad that we lost her on the day of celebrating her OTJ success day. It was her last day insulin free and was the beginning of the road to what we thought were some healthy months ahead. I already purchased Charlie's round trip airfare to Chicago for christmas! :roll:

    Now all of this stuff keeps running through my head and things are coming to me a bit too late. A few nights ago, Charlie was feeling SO GREAT after stopping the insulin that she was darting around the apartment like a kitten again. I remember her running around the ledge of the couch, and then just when she turned the corner, she slipped and fell between the couch and the wall. I was scared for a second. Then she got up and ran towards me and looked fine. So I let it go. Surely this is what cracked the tooth off. It makes sense now.

    Hindsight is 20-20, and I know that even though it turned out terribly, it was right to take her to the vet to remove that tooth and at least try to minimise any potential future infection or pain quickly. This day just did not go as we had hoped, and it was certainly very expensive for this to be the result.

    I have to say though, we still will celebrate charlie's making it OTJ. She did actually. She was there. Her numbers were stabilised. She was successful, and we got there through teamwork, discipline, listening and trying to put into practice a few simple principles we learned right here from the people on this board. I am so happy we started home testing. I am happy we stopped the caninsulin and found lantus and eventually levemir. I am happy we got Charlie 100% off ALL dry food, and that we had the patience to keep trying different wet foods until we found some that worked for her. I'm thankful we listened to our friend Melanie and found a new vet after the first one who insisted upon caninsulin clearly wasn't working out. I am thankful I found the resources here on this board and was able to get very specific, detailed advice and also emotional support. And I am even thankful for my own judgement at times when I had to make decisions that not everyone immediately agreed with (every cat is different and sometimes you just have to have the confidence to make your own decisions).

    I hope I can sleep tonight. My eyes are bright red and as dry as can be.

    I will try to rest peacefully knowing we made it through day 14 successfully. We got through day 14 insulin free, and Charlie is now at peace, which is what we actually wanted all along (no more pokes, no more meds, no more 800 euro trips to the emergency room, no more all nighters before important work meetings, etc). Now we'll just need some much needed recovery and rest, and I guess time, which will hopefully heal all wounds.

    Thank you again for everything.
    Jill

    “Until one has loved an animal, a part of one's soul remains unawakened.”
    ― Anatole France
     
  95. Anne & Zener GA

    Anne & Zener GA Well-Known Member

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    ((((Jill))))) thinking of you both.
    Liz
     
  96. Patty & Champ

    Patty & Champ Well-Known Member

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    Because I seldom post on the board anymore (time constraints), I've never "met" you or your beautiful Charlie. After reading what you went through last night, I feel for you so deeply. We wish for our pets what we wish for the humans in our life; that they'll die peacefully in their sleep with no fuss or muss. You had to go through the exact opposite with your baby. I'm so sorry. I feel kind of silly crying over a cat and a person I've never met, but this is just so sad. I'm glad you're celebrating Charlie's OTJ...she deserves it and so do you. I'm glad you're feeling good about the care you gave to her because it sounds like you were a terrific bean to your girl. Rest well tonight...Charlie would want that.
     
  97. Chris & China (GA)

    Chris & China (GA) Well-Known Member

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    Jill, my heart breaks for you tonight. This isn't the way it's supposed to be. Charlie did indeed make it to the Falls and is now surrounded by the love of all the kitties who've passed before him, welcoming him to the Bridge.

    I know there's a big question mark on your heart as to what happened, and I also know you may never know. That makes it even harder. When we have answers, it somehow makes the facts easier to take, even if they're not the answers we wanted to hear.

    The only thing I might suggest is that he threw a blood clot. Having a heart murmur is one of the risk factors. Surgery is another. It would explain the "seizures", the dilated eyes and most of the neurological problems seen at the beginning. It would also explain if he had a heart attack, since once one clot is thrown, it's much more likely more are forming and breaking off....and they kill quickly.

    Of course there's no way to know for sure, and it won't heal the hole in your heart to know, but I know you're thinking it might have been something you "did"...or "didn't do"...if it was a clot, there was nothing you could have done...and no way to stop it or know it was coming.

    All of us are wrapping our arms around you in virtual hugs to hold you tight while you cry. Let the tears fall..we're strong enough to hold you.

    Goodbye Sweet Charlie...fly free and land softly. wings_cat
     
  98. rhiannon and shadow (GA)

    rhiannon and shadow (GA) Well-Known Member

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    ((((Jill))))) and ((((Lona))))

    Your description brings back a memory for me from another special love in my past ....
    the panting... the wide eyes..the likely seizures.... I am wondering if Charlie had a stroke... and then another....until failure.
    I had a pet that went thru all that... for several hours one night until she passed.... ( right after I had made the decision to let her go as soon as the vet opened)

    I don't know a lot about cardiac events in animals....

    And I did the same thing... had to think it all thru...I think that is a very normal process that we all go thru...

    Sharing in your sadness....
     
  99. Tena and Curry(GA)

    Tena and Curry(GA) Well-Known Member

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    *tears, tears and more tears*

    And big hugs for you!
     
  100. Ella & Rusty & Stu(GA)

    Ella & Rusty & Stu(GA) Well-Known Member

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    Dear Jill and Lona,
    I don't know much about the medical technicalties, but I do know that all of Charlie's GA friends are welcoming her and celebrating her OTJ at the Bridge tonight. It will be a splendid party and Chefs Mannie and Stu will cook some wonderful dishes for all the GA kitties to share. I like to think that the joy of their celebration will touch your hearts tonight.

    Fly free, dear Charlie. You are much loved.

    In deepest sympathy,

    Ella & Edward, Rusty, and Stu (GA)
     
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