Info from Wellness Co. Re: Carb Count and Phosphorous

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Jaye and Chester

Jaye and Chester

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I wrote Wellness asking for carb counts and phosphorous counts for their canned foods (trying to deal with both diabetics and CRF cats in the same house...tricky).

I received the following from them and thought it might be useful for others in the same boat.


Dear Jaye,

Thank you for taking the time to write about Wellness® canned cat food. The percentages provided are on an "as fed" basis (with moisture).

Canned Cat Foods

Kitten 1.9% Carbs
Chicken 1.7% Carbs
Chicken & Herring 2.1% Carbs
Beef & Chicken 1.4% Carbs
Turkey 1.6% Carbs
Turkey & Salmon 1.7% Carbs
Sardine Shrimp & Crab 4.3% Carbs
Salmon & Trout 2.8% Carbs
Chicken & Lobster 3.8% Carbs
Kitten 1.9% Carbs
Beef & Salmon 2.12% Carbs

Core Canned Cat Foods

Chicken, Turkey, & Chicken Liver 3.09% Carbs
Salmon, Whitefish, & Herring 4.65% Carbs

Canned Cat Foods

Chicken 0.31% Phosphorus
Chicken & Herring 0.37% Phosphorus
Beef & Chicken 0.28% Phosphorus
Turkey 0.28% Phosphorus
Turkey & Salmon 0.35% Phosphorus
Sardine, Shrimp & Crab 0.31% Phosphorus
Salmon & Trout 0.33% Phosphorus
Chicken & Lobster 0.33% Phosphorus
Beef & Salmon 0.26% Phosphorus
Kitten 0.34% Phosphorus

Core Canned Cat Foods

Chicken, Turkey, & Chicken Liver 0.30% Phosphorus
Salmon, Whitefish, & Herring 0.33% Phosphorus

Thanks again for contacting us.

Heather Rowe
Representative
Consumer Affairs
 
This is helpful...Petco is starting to sell Wellness..

I compared the carb values above w/Janet and Binky's chart for Wellness (date for those values was 5/06).....these values are a bit lower than in the past. Wonder if they changed the recipe. I wanted to try some other very low carb foods for Curry...less than 5%...closer to 2%.

In terms of phosphorus...how much is too much????
 
Jaye

Thank you so much for giving this info. I think, however, according to Janet's way of calculating things...you can't stop at this number and I'm hoping someone will correct me if I'm wrong. I believe you have to take the "as fed" value for protein and multiply by 3.5, fat and multiply by 8.5, and carbs and multiply by 3.5. Then add all those together to get total calories. Then divide each by the total. For example:

Usually, you would get "as fed" numbers for protein, fat, fiber, moisture, and ash and add them together then subtract from 100 to determine % carbs. They should add up pretty close to 100. Then you just want to look at the protein, carbs, and fat.

If the "as fed" values are:
protein 11% then 11 x 3.5 = 38.5
carbs 2% then 2 x 3.5 = 7
fat 10% then 10 x 8.5 = 80.5
38.5 + 7 + 80.5 = 126

% calories from carbs = 7/126 =5.5%

Wellness has their "as fed" values on their website and when I did the calcs as above, I came up with
WN Chicken: 3%
WN beef/chicken: 4%
WN chicken/herring: 6%
WN turkey/salmon: 5%

Tena...phosphorus levels depend on whether you have a CKD cat or not. The phosphorus levels in renal foods vary but are usually less than .40%. My CKD cats will not eat renal food and I actually want them on a better diet anyway so I try to keep them somewhere between .75-.85% phosphorus. Not as good as renal food in terms of phosphorus level but much better than most foods. Some of them get quite high...which is ok for a non-CKD cat.
 
it's late and my brain went to sleep a couple of hours ago, but those phos levels look like guaranteed analysis figures. see tanya's site for dry matter analysis for wellness flavours; they were updated very recently. or refer to janet & binky's charts, which calculates phos as mg per 100 cal.
 
Thanks for adding that on the phosphorus and giving Tanya's link. I PM'd Jaye about that but should have given the link in the forum post...sorry.

Anne and Celi: No problem on the math...already did it when we started out to figure out which foods Gracie could have!
 
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