Kitty 85 +5.5???

I have fed 2 cans of LC FF , but it hasn't slowed it down... Help

 

Re: Kitty 342 to 126 in 4 hours..new vial and fluid...HELP

126 is still a good number, a little steep but the number is ok. You've fed so the drop should slow. Have you tested her again?

 

Re: Kitty 342 to 126 in 4 hours..new vial and fluid...HELP

I fed at 2.75 1 can on the 194 -/ waited an hour-- Dropped @70
Pts--to 126-- fed another can

 

Re: Kitty 342 to 126 in 4 hours..new vial and fluid...HELP

At what point in the cycle did you feed the two cans?

 

Re: Kitty 342 to 126 in 4 hours..new vial and fluid...HELP

I would test at 9:30 and let us know what it is....
It is good that she ate that will help bring her up

 

Re: Kitty 342 to 126 in 4 hours..new vial and fluid...HELP

Fluids are normally not a factor this early-- still have to kick in

Sheeeezzzzzzz

 

Re: Kitty 342 to 126 in 4 hours..new vial and fluid...HELP

Looks like that first can slowed the drop there. Test again at +5 to see how much the second can slowed down things. Yay for blues!

 

Re: Kitty 342 to 126 in 4 hours..new vial and fluid...HELP

106 + 4.5

 

Re: Kitty 342 to 126 in 4 hours..new vial and fluid...HELP

How carb sensitive is Kitty? You can try feeding a small teaspoon amount of medium carb wet food in with some low carb food to try to slow down things further. Looks like the new vial has more kick!

 

Re: Kitty 342 to 126 in 4 hours..new vial and fluid...HELP

Wow, Kim....when was the last time Kitty saw low 100's? So, I guess this means the old vial was the problem?

 

Re: Kitty 342 to 126 in 4 hours..new vial and fluid...HELP

I agree, you could go to a medium carb food, but only feed a small amount at a time. You don't want her to get full and not eat for you when you need her to.

 

Re: Kitty 342 to 126 in 4 hours..new vial and fluid...HELP

Yippee, sweet numbers (though I know you are probably freaked out!!!). Guess the New Vial Theory is more than a theory. :? Yowza.

 

Re: Kitty 342 to 126 in 4 hours..new vial and fluid...HELP

Sheeeezzzz---


She didn't eat all of the last low carb can---- she has eaten 2.75 cans in 4 hours

 

Re: Kitty 342 to 126 in 4 hours..new vial and fluid...HELP

I would reduce the dose a little for the AMPS, but not too much!!!! It will be nice if she is having a breakthrough today!

 

Re: Kitty 342 to 126 in 4 hours..new vial and fluid...HELP

Do you have med carb? Maybe she'll eat a bit just cause it's different?

 

Re: Kitty 342 to 126 in 4 hours..new vial and fluid...HELP

All I need is for her to throw up!

Not freaking yet--

 

Re: Kitty 342 to 126 in 4 hours..new vial and fluid...HELP

She will be just fine. The numbers are not scary so far. How many hours are you past the shot right now?

 

Re: Kitty 342 to 126 in 4 hours..new vial and fluid...HELP

8 carbs considered medium?

 

Re: Kitty 342 to 126 in 4 hours..new vial and fluid...HELP

Ok I see, 106 at +4.5. Sounds perfect to me! If she wants 2 or 3 bites of medium carb I think that is fine, but I wouldn't give her a lot. The insulin is probably close to peak by now, so her drop is likely slowed already.

 

Re: Kitty 342 to 126 in 4 hours..new vial and fluid...HELP

8 is good! I'd say 8 - 12 is medium.

 

Re: Kitty 342 to 126 in 4 hours..new vial and fluid...HELP

4.5 out----BUT--- the fluids have proven to have no effect until about +6--&
Normally it is substantial

 

Re: Kitty 342 to 126 in 4 hours..new vial and fluid...HELP

She's ok though, don't feel like you need to give her any. You don't need to bring out the food really unless they drop under 50, and she's still got lots of room to drop, and is probably far enough in the cycle that the speediest part of the drop is over anyway. She's had early drops before that then turn into flattish.

 

Re: Kitty 342 to 126 in 4 hours..new vial and fluid...HELP

Kim, it will be fine, just haven't had to deal with low numbers before BUT it could be a good sign .... but don't panic!

 

Re: Kitty 342 to 126 in 4 hours..new vial and fluid...HELP

I'd stay on top of it, she used to like to nadir between +6 & +8.

I'd give her a small tsp of the 8% carb food. Yes 8% is considered med carb.

 

Re: Kitty 342 to 126 in 4 hours..new vial and fluid...HELP

When should I test again--+5?

 

Re: Kitty 342 to 126 in 4 hours..new vial and fluid...HELP

never mind :mrgreen:

 

Re: Kitty 342 to 126 in 4 hours..new vial and fluid...HELP

The Fluids!!!!!! Haven't hit

 

Re: Kitty 342 to 126 in 4 hours..new vial and fluid...HELP

I'd test when you feel like you need to. No need more often than every 1/2 hour unless she is closer to 50 than she is. I'd say maybe every 45 minutes, or 1/2 hour if you are going to freak out more from not knowing than from having the test. :mrgreen:

 

Re: Kitty 342 to 126 in 4 hours..new vial and fluid...HELP

Kim, from her SS she doesn't really drop too much more after this time, at least not enough to hypo. How much food has she had? you don't want to make her sick, just in case.

 

Re: Kitty 342 to 126 in 4 hours..new vial and fluid...HELP

You're doing great Kim! You're going to want to set your alarm in case you fall asleep...for when the fluids usually hit.

 

Re: Kitty 342 to 126 in 4 hours..new vial and fluid...HELP

How much fluid? 100 ml? you have given fluids before and it hasn't done much, so it doesn't always make her go down. She is OKAY! you are not near a hypo # ..... BREATHE ......

 

Re: Kitty 342 to 126 in 4 hours..new vial and fluid...HELP

Fluids!!!!!!!!

That is the elephant in the room-- it is not uncommon to have a 100
Point lower preshot the cycle after them

 

Re: Kitty 342 to 126 in 4 hours..new vial and fluid...HELP

PLUS, the #'s will be going up by the time the fluids hit, right?

 

Re: Kitty 342 to 126 in 4 hours..new vial and fluid...HELP

100 mls

 

Re: Kitty 342 to 126 in 4 hours..new vial and fluid...HELP

+5 103

 

Re: Kitty 342 to 126 in 4 hours..new vial and fluid...HELP

That's not a lot, really. Are you okay? Remember you need to take care of yourself first and if you need to test her every 15 minutes until you calm down, then do it! Pretend you are running a curve on steroids. :lol: Not a bad # at all +5 103 .... even if she fell to a low low # you can handle it, you know that, right?

 

Re: Kitty 342 to 126 in 4 hours..new vial and fluid...HELP

Yah, it looks like her drop has slowed.

I don't have any solid understanding of the fluid factor, but I would think that they simply help her feel better and therefore don't drive her numbers up as high. So I wouldn't think it's going to have her hypo or anything like that, it may just let her have a nice surf in good numbers, and then not rise so much at the end of the cycle. I mean, she still normally is getting a yellow or pink PS after fluids, right? So it's not like they are going to put her at risk unless I am missing something? You may just get a blue PS in the morning, which would be supercool!!!!!

 

Re: Kitty 342 to 126 in 4 hours..new vial and fluid...HELP

Am I giving you the impression I am freaking out?!

I'm telling you from experience--- the fluids are going to come into play. She will
Drop on them.... I just don't know how much

 

Re: Kitty 342 to 126 in 4 hours..new vial and fluid...HELP

Go over your SS, she doesn't always drop, and in some places she doesn't drop that much. Only a couple of times do you see a steep drop and there may have been other factors .... and yes, you seem as if this has thrown you.

 

Re: Kitty 342 to 126 in 4 hours..new vial and fluid...HELP

I don't know anything about the fluids but you are on top of it. :YMHUG:

 

Re: Kitty 342 to 126 in 4 hours..new vial and fluid...HELP

Oh, I just generally assume people are freaking out. :mrgreen: It's what I do, LOL. Ok and maybe all the exclamation points you typed were a tipoff.

 

Re: Kitty 342 to 126 in 4 hours..new vial and fluid...HELP

OK I see you only shot 4.2, I had thought you gave 4.5, so I'll scale back my suggestions for morning.

 

Re: Kitty 342 to 126 in 4 hours..new vial and fluid...HELP

Of course you would be freaking out, you are so used to seeing high flat numers that this is out of Kitty's normal so you freak out, just like her liver will probably do and shoot her back up again.

 

Re: Kitty 342 to 126 in 4 hours..new vial and fluid...HELP

+5.5 86

 

Re: Kitty 342 to 126 in 4 hours..new vial and fluid...HELP

When do the fluids usually kick in? Have you given her any of the med carb?

 

Re: Kitty 342 to 126 in 4 hours..new vial and fluid...HELP

Yes to the med carb & the fluids are normally after +5 don't know when

 

Have you fed the med carb food yet?

 

Re: Kitty 342 to 126 in 4 hours..new vial and fluid...HELP

I am sorry to find you in this situation. I have been off the board for awhile.
Of course, I have nothing to offer but support, so I will just stand in the corner out of the way, letting you know I am here if you need me.

I'll get us a glass of wine. ;-)
I am a freak out person so I KNOW how you feel.

Breath..............

 

I'm no help...sorry!

 

Yes To the med carb

 

when are you checking again?
Is +6 @ 11:00?

 

Then they will bounce off each other, the insulin will be losing steam, then and if the fluids kick in she should be starting to go up. You have more to worry about with the insulin and it seems to be already slowing down.

 

Nice number! Hang in there, you are doing great. You will have a big glass of wine with your name on it for later. :mrgreen:

 

Is 50 the number or lower that I feed high carb?

 

At this point I say yes. Intervene at 50, we can deal with the high numbers later.

 

You like %'s .... What I see on your SS is an average of a 30-40% drop and 2 times her #'s went up .... so #'s person you may only be seeing that 100 point drop but you need to look at her averages. and yes, 50 or under a teaspoon at a time.

 

Ok, 50 it is.

Alright, don't any of you stay up for me-- go to bed! I will be okay. I have HC food and Karo if needed.

Really-- thanks for the help. We will be okay.

 

I'm not going to bed. I am staying right here.
Whether you want me to or not.... :smile:

 

What was her last number?

 

85 at 5.5

 

I live on the west coast, you can't make me go to bed at 8:00! cat(2)_steam cat(2)_steam

 

Not that I'm any help but I've got a few things to do yet so I will check back in. So, Nancy you are good for a few hours?

 

I shot late tonight so now I have two reasons to stay up. You can't get rid of us that easy.

 

Wow, look at Kitty go! :shock:

 

Apparently not needed ..... ohmygod_smile but yes, I am here. (now does anyone want to deal with my moody, the world is against me, teenager

 

Oh He.. NO!!!! ohmygod_smile :lol: Been there done that and I don't wish it on anyone!

 

+6 68

Can I freak out now?

 

And of course you're needed Nancy!

 

Can she break out a little HC yet?

 

No don't freak out!!!! This is a NORMAL number, and the insulin is at peak. This is what you want. A remember too, it's not like if she touches 50 she is going to hypo, that's just the lower end of what is still a safe number.

How is she acting? Is she acting hungry? I would certainly let her eat LC or MC if she wants to eat. If she isn't acting hungry, then she is fine. If YOU are freaked out, you could give her 2-3 bites of HC. I don't think a small quantity will send her high. There's no need to based on the numbers and timing in the cycle. But do what you need to to stay sane!!!

 

Let me just add you should do what you think is right, even if it is not what I say! I once let Bix eat as much HC as he wanted when I thought he was dropping too fast, and I got YELLED at, LOL! But you know what, it was what I had to do to keep myself from complete panic, and based on the data I got from that, I learned that he didn't need to eat a lot of HC to bring his numbers up. So it was a learning experience.

If you think she is unsafe and needs HC then by all means give her some! Just get the data so you know how she reacts, so you will continue to learn what works & what doesn't, and that helps each time you need to make new decisions.

 

Me either, although for me watching grandkids go through it is easier because you're not on the battlefield but still painful.

Glad your here Nancy.

 

A good glass of Merlot would probably help!

She is sleeping. I have only given about 1/4 can MC 2 hours ago -- no HC.

I'm serious about going to bed-- it's ok

 

It is a good # .... if you were at +1 then we would worry .... depending on how low she goes, don't panic! you may want to reduce your PM shot. Breathe ....

 

I've been waiting for the Breeath

 

Reduce the Pm shot? You mean am?

 

Yeah we West Coasters get confuzed easy! I kept thinking this was your AM cycle too, but I guess it's your PM shot already halfway to morning. It's still early here!!!!

 

+5.75 56

Breeeeeath.......

She is eating some MC

I guess it is 6.75 not 5.75-- yep gave shot at 5 Pm

 

I hope whatever my grandkids go through I don't know about it...these 2 girls about killed me...11 months apart...all the hormones! ohmygod_smile ohmygod_smile

 

After tonight she may be more sensitive to the insulin. So yes, I would lower your AMPS.

 

Yes, your AM shot .... be nice, the teenager is driving me crazy!!

 

You must have nerves of steel....I'd be breaking out the HC! I'm chicken sh--!

 

I'm chicken sh*t too!

 

Go to bed--- we are fine!

 

Sorry, you're going to hear about it, especially with girls.

 

No your not, your just scared! she will be okay, even if she dropped low you know what to do! and BTW it is not even dark here yet! I don't like going to bed when it's light out!!

 

I can't go to bed.
My nerves are to fired up.....
nailbite_smile

Have you broke out the HC yet?
When do you test again?

 

LOL Nancy! You've only got 5 hrs till next shot....looks like unless she does some zooming you might not have a shootable # by then?

 

She is not going to hypo--go to bed.

Robin & Barbara-- you have go to work -go to bed! Luv y'all -- go on!

 

Noooo....I can't take it! :lol:

 

Especially if she is eating a little more now, she should be good! Maybe a nice surf! Don't be surprised if you see a red number in a few hours, that's typically how it goes.

 

Ok, don't know for sure if I can sleep but I guess I better try. Are you off tomorrow? Nancy's hanging, right?

 

A red number..... Ugh

 

I know....like a slap in the face!

 

Go Barbara-- and take Robin with you! Someone has got to work to pay the taxes....

 

I'm here ....

 

Kim, when are you testing again?

 

:lol: That's what I do....get these businesses to report their property so the city can tax them! :lol:

 

Ok, I'm out! Good night!

 

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Someone go respond to the rebound question on the board..