Kyo's thread part 2!

Discussion in 'Prozinc / PZI' started by Harukyo, Jun 23, 2019.

  1. Harukyo

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    It was recommended that I make a new thread since the other one had gone over 2 pages.

    I'm currently awake at 5 in the morning having another PJ party with Kyo on a .1u dose! Handling the curbing just fine, she's been reading 53-56 from +4 to +6 even with 1 tsp gravy lovers after each test. Hoping she hops up on her surfboard soon since we are past the +6 mark or else I'm going to break out the Karo. I really should have reduced when she read her first green @PMPS, I blame myself :facepalm:
     
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    69 @+7.5, fed 1 last tsp of high carb and then put down 1 table spoon of LC wet that she mostly ate and stopped testing there since she got over her nadir . Going to catch some Zzzz before AMPS! Goodnight everyone :)
     
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    Look at her go! Great job mom! :p
     
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    This is really up to your preference. Personally, I like keeping everything together in one place - sometimes it's nice to be able to look back without having to go searching for previous threads.

    Honestly, if I had been around when you asked, I probably would have told you to go for it. Maybe Kyo heard me say she didn't seem to be in any hurry to get off insulin and decided to prove me wrong. ;)

    Looks like it's time to try a Drop. :)
     
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  5. Bron and Sheba (GA)

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    You are managing Kyo very well Lauren. Kyo is still on a mission and looking fantastic!
     
  6. Harukyo

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    Holy cow, she just read 62 for AMPS, I DON'T THINK I CAN POKE THAT LOL. Going to stall for 20 and see what's up.

    Thanks @ohbell !!

    @Djamila glad to know that I was on the right track with my thinking! She still continues to surprise me, I'm honestly trying not to rush this process! But just when I think we would take some time to settle into this dose and now we are here. Craziness.

    @Bron and Sheba Thank you!!! I had an amazing teacher ;) Seriously though, you taught me how to curb Kyo's levels and empowered me to be able to learn to do it on my own!! I'm getting all choked up again :bighug: thank you thank you!:bighug:
     
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    72 after a 20 minute stall. Maybe I should have stalled one more time? I don't feel comfortable with shooting that number unless you guys were around to instruct me otherwise so I skipped this morning dose. Hopefully she doesn't rise too much
     
  8. AliceMeowliss&Cassandra

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    I saw @Djamila suggest this, what about a drop now instead of the 0.1?


    I am so glad for you and Kyo to see such awesome progress so soon!!!! What a star, Harukyo!!! :D
     
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    Well firstly, I can’t answer you with 100% because I am not experienced with ProZinc, but..... have you tested again today? I would be interested to see how Kyo is doing today since she did not receive any insulin at all.

    My general answer with the caveat of course that every cat is different, is that that drop would probably be more helpful to Kyo’s lasting recovery, and you can shoot greens as long as you are not blindly shooting a ridiculously high dose (like when someone is new and their vet tells them to shoot like 5 units or something ridiculous of Vetsulin without testing—that’s what I mean by “ridiculously high dose”—not appropriate for that situation yet), you know your cat, you have plenty of test strips and can monitor if needed.
    You have learned to feed the lows and prop Kyo up if necessary. The only other reason I might say to reduce or skip a dose would be if the caregiver needs precious sleep or has to be gone from the home.

    That being said, please wait for someone else to support these statements as I wouldn’t be comfortable advising without backup, for sure. :)
     
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    It's funny that you mention the sleep thing because that's exactly what I was thinking this morning! I knew I was too sleep deprived to be able to do proper testing through the morning. I think I've gotten enough sleep now though, just in time for a +6 test.
     
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    She read 77 @ +6! Going to give her some lunch now. Thanks for reassuring me @AliceMeowliss&Cassandra ! Now that I've gotten some sleep I'll try and be better testing her through the rest of the day
     
  13. Bron and Sheba (GA)

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    I’m glad you skipped. I’d be guided by @Djamila because she understands Prozinc. Looks like she is staying in normal numbers. Test a couple of hours after the food and if her BSL drops it will show her pancreas is working. Giving a small snack.. a teaspoon of low carb .. at +9 can sometimes keep the next Preshot down. Try that too.
     
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    Oh what lovely numbers!!! I'm tearing up a little myself now :).

    So what you're aiming to see is most of the numbers in the 50-80 range, with occasional numbers up to 120. And as Bron said, you want to see a slight drop after eating. The +9 snack is a very helpful thing to do at this phase, as it can keep the PS numbers from climbing too high, so if there's any way to do that, I recommend it.

    And by the way, I'm so glad you skipped this morning. That was absolutely the right decision. Fingers crossed for a nice green PMPS!
     
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    @Djamila Yay!! I'm glad I'm starting to hone my sugar cat instincts! :cool: and Okie dokie I will look for those lucky numbers! And I'm sure she will love the +9 snack :D:cat:
     
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    I’m glad you got more input! :)

    I am so amazed at Kyo’s success so soon! You’re doing quite well. :)
     
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    88 @PMPS the lowest PMPS to date! Still close to the 80 range, but I'm wondering if she can handle the drop dose. I think I might go for it since I'll be around to test? I know shes eager to get off the insulin but I feel hesitant to have her quit cold turkey.

    Something else that I wanted to mention is that she's been eating less per time she's at her bowl. She usually finishes 1 3.3 oz can of FF within 2-2 hours and 30 minutes of feeding and she hasn't been finishing her +4 meals, usually letting them sit for quite a while. Her appetite has become so controlled since she's improved so much maybe I'm just not use to her controlling her eating again lol, she use to scarf down her dry food as soon as I put it down. I have to coax her to eat a portion of her wet food now.
     
  19. Bron and Sheba (GA)

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    Will watch with interest how this cycle goes. You are doing an absolutely amazing job with Kyo. You can be very proud of yourself!
     
  20. AliceMeowliss&Cassandra

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    I’ll be looking for your updates tonight! Pretty sure I’ll be up for awhile too. I think going for the drop is better because it gives her a little more time to heal, but again, with the lower numbers of course it’s better if you can keep an eye on her with any dose, big or small. I’m glad you can try tonight!

    Eating less is great I think as a sign of healthy regulation, too! Kyo’s recovery has been super fast and it makes me so happy! :)
     
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    Thank you!! I'll be back for a +4 update!

    @AliceMeowliss&Cassandra Yeah! And I was hoping to decrease the amount of food she eats anyway since shes a chubby girl right now :p so I'm glad shes in agreement with me on that!

    I got some good pictures of her today, she joined me for my much needed afternoon nap and claimed my arm as her pillow. And then later on nesting in my blankets and clean clothes (why is it always the clean clothes! LOL) IMG_20190623_175357_2.jpg IMG_20190623_205610_2.jpg
     
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    Oh she’s beautiful. Great photos! :)

    She has nicely sized ears too. Very helpful! Lol.
     
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  23. Bron and Sheba (GA)

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    Oh, Kyo is just gorgeous! Beautiful photos.
    Harry loves clean sheets. He jumps on the bed when it is being made and rolls all over it and goes silly!
     
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    Haha, I'm glad you guys liked the pictures. I definitely had lots of room to practice on her ears! And Kyo loves to chase the sheets too! Makes making the bed a little more fun :cat:

    So Kyo came to me at +3 time and so I got a test in then, she read 60 and I wanted her to have the rest of her dinner so I put down 1/4th of her LC wet food. Tested again @+4 and she read 57, gave her another 1/4th can for a total of 2 1/4 cans of food. I thought she probably wasnt too hungry today because of all the feeding we did last night curbing her.

    I'm trying to keep her eating 2 1/2 cans for now (down from 3 cans) because I don't want her to lose too much weight too quickly. I'll be ordering a baby scale from amazon tomorrow so I can begin tracking that too! Sorry for the 20 minute delay!
     
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    Hey twinsies but an hour different, 61 at +4 for me and just got 57 at +5.....!

    I looove having a baby scale for Alice. I used to only know her weight by going to the vet. The baby scale is so much better and now she just steps up on it anytime I get it out, even if it hasn’t finished turning on and calibrating yet. Haha! It also weighs in kilograms first so I just started doing it that way and now it’s easier for me to go back and forth in my head between kg and lbs. :)
     
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    OMG GOOD GREENS!! Yay for Alice!! :D:D But looks like you're probably going to have to stay up testing a bit more huh? I was thinking I do the same and get a +6, I sleep better knowing shes past her nadir :rolleyes: so I will be here!

    I hope Kyo will get use to the baby scale too! I think If I don't make a big deal about it, she will probably lay on it on her own because she loves to claim new things :p. Hey, do you feed your cat a variety of flavors of wet food that are close within carb content? Or do you stick to one flavor? I'm trying to figure out if I can just stick to the flavor Kyo likes most that way I'm not having to calculate like 3 different calorie contents every day o_O lol
     
  27. Bron and Sheba (GA)

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    Surfing beautifully!
     
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    60 @ +6 and with that I'll head to bed! Goodnight @AliceMeowliss&Cassandra ! Hope you can get some rest in soon too!
     
  29. Bron and Sheba (GA)

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    Lovely cycle.
    Did you leave some food out for her?
     
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    @Bron and Sheba yes I did! I put down another 1/4 of a can of LC since she had some food left over to eat. So she ate 2 1/2 cans in total now actually
     
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    *whew* completely forgot about +9 snack! Woke up with 20 minutes to spare to my 2 hour no feed window and managed to get her to eat the tsp of LC food. Back to bed now...Zzzzzzz..
     
  32. Bron and Sheba (GA)

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    Have you thought about getting an automatic feeder for her. Even when she’s in remission it will be very useful. It will save you getting up at night
     
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    Honestly, I didn't think I'd be breaking up her food this much so I hadn't really planned ahead to get an automatic feeder so soon because I didn't know how much stalling I'd have to do for her shots and stuff like that. Maybe I'll buy it for myself as a congratulatory present when/if kyo goes into remission!

    Kyo read 70 @AMPS so I'm skipping her shot again! If she reads me another PS out of the 50-80 range should I drop dose or skip? @Djamila I'm not sure how consistent I need to be with the drop dose. So far kyo is going on her second 24 hour cycle with the drop dose
     
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    You don't need to be at all consistent with the drop dose. But it looks like she's going to try to make a go of it here, which is exciting! I think as long as the PS is green, I'd leave her alone at this point and see what she does.
     
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    :woot::woot: how exciting!!
     
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    Wow 55 @PMPS! Kind of scary to see her so close to the lime green number but I know it's okay because she got absolutely no insulin today!! Is it fair to call this day 1 of our OTJ trial?!
     
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    @ +1 I caught Kyo eating contraband dry dog food (don't know how much) and tested right away. She was at 51. I am so upset I cannot even describe. What should I expect to see in her levels over the next couple of hours? I'm really hoping this doesn't hurt her progress
     
  38. Bron and Sheba (GA)

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    It will take an hour or 2 for the dry to
    Affect the BS level. You Can’t trust cats around any dry food. Especially F D kitties.
    I’d get rid of the dry and feed the dog tinned or raw. It will always be a temptation.
    She will be fine as you can always give insulin but you dont want it to happen once she’s off insulin.
     
  39. AliceMeowliss&Cassandra

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    Alice snuck into the other cats’ dry food even when it was up on the cat towers and she would have been too weak to get to it at the time. Or should have been. Hope Kyo didn’t get very much!
     
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    Ugh that sucks. I'll just have to be so careful. My family is not as "health" oriented as I am about their pets..but they also cannot afford to buy anything but dry food. Its a very tough situation for a low income family. Its tough on me to have to be the "perfect" one and always make sure every piece of stray dog food is picked up if Kyo wants to hang out in the living room. I didn't catch that someone just straight up left the cup that they use to scoop out the dog food on a chair or something and so I guess Kyo must have knocked it down gotten into some of it. I think i'll just have to supervise her at all times when I let her out. I'm usually always so good at catching these things, but I'm not perfect all the time.

    I only have to hold out for a year and a half before I can move out after I finish school. Just going to have to make it work until then :/
     
  41. AliceMeowliss&Cassandra

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    I have no idea how I missed your response last night! :p

    So.... food.... She has a primary cheaper food that is 5%. That’s her friskies pate. Sheba perfect portions in broth are approx 3% on the chart. She gets freeze dried treats which are zero. But as long as the packaging of the food says it is something like “100% complete and balanced nutrition for adult cats” then it means it is supplemented appropriately to cover all the amino acid needs and micronutrients that are considered essential. Dr. Pierce’s chart or website, wherever I read it? mentions something specific about the importance of liver, and calcium. Possibly in one of the homemade recipe pages..... So yes, I would feed the same low-carb complete nutrition kind of you and Kyo’s mutual choice, as long as she is not having GI or other issues..... and you can get things like pure bites freeze dried with duck liver for treats and then you’ve got liver no matter what too. :D
     
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  42. AliceMeowliss&Cassandra

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    Don’t beat yourself up. I also had rabbits who snuck into the dry cat food more than once! And they are herbivores!!! It horrified me every time! Like... “Nooooooooooo don’t doooooo it!!!!”
    You are doing your absolute best in a situation where you do not have perfect control.

    My ridiculously food motivated cat (next cat health project on the list :banghead:) snuck into my herpes cat’s room and gave himself and his buddy feline herpes too. Now everyone has it! And I did my best. He was..... persistent and sneaky!

    I’m low SES too. We don’t all get perfect choices but it sounds like you are really making the best of what resources you do have, and it’s so valuable. I’d rather an animal have a loving home than be in a shelter... or worse.
     
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    Thanks for all that info!! I'm sure Kyo would prefer to stick to her favorite flavor of FF instead of me having her cycle between 3-4. She really likes the chicken and liver flavor FF can I've noticed (or at least she has the least problems eating that one) so ill stick to that and maybe one more kind once a week! :)
     
  44. AliceMeowliss&Cassandra

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    If you think about it... when we feed dry we often feed the exact same thing always, too....
    FF bugs Alice’s tummy, but I tried that flavor! We are chicken and liver friskies now. =^.^=

    Anyway when the fall semester starts you’re going to be busy! At least feeding can be easy on you. :) It’s actually so amazing that Kyo’s timing is summer for you and that she is improving so much already. How crazy! And good.
     
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    Thanks so much for cheering me up about it, I try so hard and my family honestly has been doing better about taking their pets for shots and stuff I've been very impressed with how they try too. I suppose you're right, the dogs they have absolutely adore my parents and it beats being in a shelter all alone :(

    I use to have a rabbit when I was younger too! Do you like owning rabbits? We ended up rehoming ours because we moved away and she ended up with some really nice people at a ranch! :)

    As for the feline HIV OMG, I honestly am not even very familiar with how HIV effects cats! You've got me going and doing some more research now!

    Thanks for the pick me up again, I really appreciate it Cassandra :bighug: I will continue to do my best and even better!
     
  46. AliceMeowliss&Cassandra

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    Herpes, not HIV!!!! Herpes just causes respiratory snottiness and I believe can cause issues with conjuncta (eye). My cat who caught it in the first place..... she just sneezes in my face. I’m thankful I wear glasses. :p
    A LOT of cat health and disease I have learned has been through my own experiences or those of others. I didn’t know about ear mites until I helped a friend take her cat to the vet for his swollen ear, many years ago.
    But I found out about what was wrong with Majyk (patient zero haha) when she went outside (no one else goes out) and kept not eating for a day or two from her outdoor bowl at all and then I didn’t see her for a couple days then I guess she hid in my garage..... I was worried sick. That’s how I really learned cats are motivated to eat by their ability to smell their food!

    I love my rabbits, both gone and still.... hare.... (couldn’t resist the bad pun). They were all free-roaming house rabbits. The one I had from a baby passed away from GI stasis complications on Alice’s birthday last year actually! The lion lop passed thanksgiving night. Now we have our mini Rex TomTom left. He eats my furniture and molding when he can. Does his best job at being bunny that he can. :D
    There’s this whole story from my childhood, my preschool was giving away baby bunnies and my parents wouldn’t let me have own. They were SO right. But I always wanted one. Then she needed a friend. Then someone was like... hey I have this rabbit I don’t want..... then I had 7 furbabies. That was officially my caregiver limit!

    My big PSA about rabbits is to encourage people not to adopt them as Easter gifts. A LOT of bunnies end up in shelters within a few months of Easter. TomTom was at the big city shelter by August, where I found him a month later.
     
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    Also re: continuing to do your best and better.... cannot remember who right now, someone on here has a Maya Angelou quote on their signature that is something about doing your best until you know better... then doing better. I don’t actually know the quote.... but I’m sure you got the gist!
     
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    It’s almost impossible to keep a cat out of everything all the time. Especially if they are food motivated. No matter how hard I tried Sheba managed to get into things. She ate a small birthday cup cake I had out on the table defrosting for my granddaughter once. We came back inside and no cake. Found Sheba under the table with a half eaten cake looking sick. And it was chocolate which is poisonous to cats. So phone calls to the vet etc and a sick cat that night. She also regularly raided the kitchen garbage bin as well and I could never leave food around on the table. I also checked the floor all the time.
    Harry my current boy who isn’t a FD kitty is just as bad. Into everything.
    Don’t beat yourself up.
     
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    We would all be in trouble if cats had opposable thumbs. The things they would get into!!! Just saying...... :p
     
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    Idk if I miss read the HIV or maybe I just thought it was the same thing as herpes, either way I'm glad it turned out to be not that terrible of a thing for you kitties! I just learned about ear mites recently too! Girl, we have 2 cats 5 chihuahuas and 1 chocolate lab. I'm right there with you with that caregiver limit :p And haha love the pun. They will always live on in our hearts! And, yeah I hear about the bunnies during Easter time too! So ridiculous. Animals aren't a holiday trend. The world isn't as much as a perfect place as we would hope :( all we can do is educate ourselves and inform others. Like how this place does! :joyful:
     
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    Yeah, I guess I shouldn't curse the one thing that has really helped this process along, which is Kyo's appetite. And you know its funny, I always hear about other cats sneaking human food and Kyo has just shown no interest in my food whatsoever. Actually I take the back. She likes vanilla ice cream (she tried to lick my cone once and I was so surprised), chicken pot-pie gravy (probably why she loves the gravy lovers food), and sweet tea LOL. The sweet tea is unexplained, but I suppose its par for the course for being in a southern state LOL. What kind of cat is Harry? Is he the one in your avatar picture or was that miss Sheba? :)
     
  52. AliceMeowliss&Cassandra

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    I just came across this and thought of your comment about hoping Kyo will adjust to the baby scale:
    “The app shows that she weighs herself pretty consistently, sometimes in the morning around 7 a.m., or in the afternoon around 3 p.m. or before bed at 9 p.m.,” McSwain said.” https://www.thedodo.com/close-to-home/cat-secretly-uses-her-moms-scale
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    Haha! Oh man thats hilarious! I love little cat stories like that, thanks for sharing :D
     
  54. Bron and Sheba (GA)

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    The avatar is Sheba. Both she and Harry are Australian Mists which are 1/4 Abyssinian, 1/2 Burmese and 1/4 DSH.
    This is Harry below bottom. And below together are Harry and Clover 2F89A595-FC68-490C-8740-057DFD4123B1.jpeg


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  55. Harukyo

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    Oh my goodness look at those big feet! Thats crazy that you know their genetics! I've always wondered if there was a way you could test to find out genetics for cats. I know there is one for dogs (not sure how reliable though). Harry is such a lovely cream color and dannngg hes claimed a nice leather seat all to himself, what a spoiled boy :D Is Clover one of yours too?
     
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    The breed Australian Mist only started in the 1970s. And they are all 1/4 Abyssinian 1/2 Burmese and 1/4 DSH. Harry is a Golden Spotted Mist and has spots which can be hard to see in some photos. Yes he's a lovely deep cream and a mummy's boy!:cat:
    Clover actually belongs to my daughter who lives next door but she spends every day here from about 7am and goes home at night when they come home....and she thinks she owns both places. They are great mates and are the same age. I'm happy for her to go home to sleep because when she stays here at night, they tend to race around all night. When Harry is here on his own he likes to snuggle up in bed with me and we all get a good sleep!
     
  57. Harukyo

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    Awww its like you have a grand fur child haha, thats awesome! MY DREAM ONE DAY
     
  58. Djamila

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    This is such a fun thread! It looks like Kyo survived the kibble caper alright. Which is a fantastic sign of her pancreas function right now. Of course you don't want to be taxing its ability, so staying vigilant on the kibble will matter (as you already know), but it looks like she was able to clean it out of her system on her own.

    Sam doesn't eat human food....except for potato chips and beer! I used to say that beer could not be left unattended, but he's so dang sneaky about it that now the rule is that beer must be served in the bottle here. Sorry guests, no glasses, mugs or steins. If there is an open glass, he will find a way to get to it the second you look away! I think he was a frat boy in a previous life. :smuggrin:
     
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    Hahaha, it's so funny when they have clear preferences for some things. One of those nine lives must have definitely been in a frat house :joyful: Cats are such stubborn creatures, but I guess you could also admire their pesky persistence. I think that's why I was always a cat person though, I appreciate that Kyo really chooses when she wants to spend time cuddling or napping with me because if she doesn't she'd just leave. Very free willed creatures that like to get what they want! :cat:
     
  60. Harukyo

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    Kyo is doing really well so far besides our contraband hiccup. Today she read me a 49 though...my understanding of that is she can't go hypo if shes not receiving insulin right @Djamila ? But then if I do a mid test, I'm supposed to see a decrease in blood sugar to show that her pancreas is regulating on its own... so that means she will get lower than 49? I hope this question makes sense
     
  61. Djamila

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    It's not that they can't go hypo without insulin, but it would only happen if there was some other serious health problem. In general though, a healthy cat won't hypo without injected insulin. And we see lots of cats who are off insulin and show numbers in the 40's, so I wouldn't worry about it.

    You'll often see a drop in BG after a meal, but that's more when they are just coming off insulin. I think it's unlikely she would really drop from here. And when you're starting from a low number, a little rise would be fine to see as long as she stays green. :bighug:
     
  62. Harukyo

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    Sweet! Thank you for easing my worries!
     
  63. AliceMeowliss&Cassandra

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    They are all just absolutely gorgeous and they look rather sturdy as well! :)

    (ETA: article is about FD)
    Interestingly brings my mind back to this article:
    “Increased susceptibility has been reported in Burmese in Australia, New Zealand, and Europe, and Maine Coon, Russian Blue, and Siamese were reported in the USA and Norwegian Forest cats in Europe.3,4,68 Burmese cats in Australia and the UK are four times more likely to develop diabetes, with 1 in 10 cats aged ≥8 years affected.24
    Source: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6053045/accessed 6/28/19 12:03a CST
     
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  64. AliceMeowliss&Cassandra

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    Just every single day I check back in on you two I am so thrilled!!!! She has made such beautiful progress. It’s nice to see the guidelines and treatment working in action. :D
     
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    Dang, neat article! Literally the only time I am interested in reading a scholarly journal is when its about my cat lol. Those same articles bore me to death when I have to read them for school :p. I wonder if those breeds are more susceptible due to their popularity since they are all well-known and expensive breeds? Not sure if their source actually covered that part though. I thought the fructosamine section was really interesting because my vet recommended that I do one in a month after our last check up. It actually pushed me to purchase the AlphaTrak2 because Kyo gets stress induced hyperglycemia, which might end up reading on the fructosamine test and its an expensive test! I hope that getting a couple of curves and readings on the AT2 will give my vet some peace of mind that I'm not some incompetent crazy person who has denied a vet blood curve already. ALSO the ADW site has the AT2 kits for $42.00 right now AND if you have ever heard of the "honey" browser extension, its a little program that searches for coupons that will apply to your cart and it saved me $7! So I got the AT2 kit for $34.81 total and some how also didn't have to pay shipping?? Like the test strips are $50 for 50 or you can just buy and entire kit again for cheaper?? How wasteful...

    Anyway, thanks for all the warm wishes Cassandra! Hope Alice's recovery is going well! I saw that she just got some stitches taken out and then got a staple :eek: poor baby
     
  66. AliceMeowliss&Cassandra

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    Thanks! She’s okay though. There was just a lot of tension on one spot from where her tumor was removed. It’s already looking better. :D

    I love a good research article when I can focus, and I actually miss college!! Lol. Maybe not as much when I was in it.

    You never answered my question on your intro post, noticing Kyo’s name, I asked if you were into Japanese? It was my foreign language in college and part of my college goals. =^.^=


    I would think in regards to those breeds.... if they are more expensive then that would not necessarily make them more common, and my presumption from the article presentation is that there is likely a genetic component... probably interacting with environmental factors, such as dietary choices common in the areas mentioned. But I didn’t check the additional sources......(yet? :p )
     
  67. Harukyo

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    Aw, glad to hear shes healing well and Kyo and I hope she continues to grow stronger!! :D

    And oh! Yes! I'm sorry I was so overwhelmed with info when I posted that I completely forgot to even talk about my hobbies! I also had to take a foreign language but I only ever got to intermediate level Japanese and that was my sophomore year of college (I'm finally a senior, woohoo!) and I've regressed sooo much!! I can read hiragana and katakana pretty okay, but the Kanji didn't stick very well :( I love the language and the culture, I hope to visit there one day as well! Hopefully I'll be able to brush up on my language studies before I go :D

    All of my pets names have been Japanese since I was little. I had a winter white dwarf hamster named Haru (got her in the spring) and then I got Kyo (named from a Japanese manga named Fruits Basket where one of the main characters is a boy who transforms into a cat, back when I thought miss Kyo was a Mr.Kyo LOL) and then I had a Syrian hamster named Mochi...cause she was squishy haha! Love owning hamsters, but I've taken a break since their lifespans are so short and I get so attached :( But I do plan on owning another when I finish college and move out cause I can't help it :cat: Have you ever seen on YouTube where people build crazy houses for their hamsters? I love those!
     
  68. AliceMeowliss&Cassandra

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    I had a cat named Kon after the lion plush spirit thing from Bleach. =^.^= I didn’t name him but my ex did.

    かんじはダメです! lol.


    Mmm, mochi.

    So I bet you would have been one who already knew what bonito flakes are when they get suggested as a LC kitty treat! :)
     
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    Oh hey I loved Bleach!! I am not at all up to date with what anime is popular right now, but back in the day Bleach, Naruto, and Full Metal Alchemist was my jam!

    And yeah Kanji is hard >.<

    Also yes I do know what bonito flakes are! One of my favorite foods is takoyaki :D I'd probably eat all the bonito flakes if I ordered them LOL
     
  70. Bron and Sheba (GA)

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    Looking great Kyo!
     
  71. Harukyo

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    Aw thank you for the check up @Bron and Sheba ! We are doing good so far! I'm really curious to see what she reads on the alpha trak since shes been reading 40s on my human meter, it should get here by tomorrow so looking forward to that :D
     
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    It is so pleasing to see Kyo looking fantastic Lauren. You have been a great mom to her and a pleasure to help. Kyo is one of the kitties that has read the instruction book and followed the directions! :p:D:cat:
     
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  73. Harukyo

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    Kyo OTJ trial day 11 and going strong!! Too bad we had that dry food hiccup or else she would have went OTJ on my birthday :smuggrin: But thats okay, from the beginning of starting this process she has has a schedule all of her own!! :D Looking forward to checking back in with you guys on the 10th for day 14!!
     
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  74. Djamila

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    So exciting!!! I love seeing Kyo holding in such lovely numbers :D

    And a very happy birthday to you! :bighug: I hope you had a great day and enjoyed celebrating!

    And speaking of celebrating, can't wait to see you on Day 14!
     
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  75. Harukyo

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    I know!! She's been doing so great, now if only we can get these reoccurring ear infections to quit! She's got an appointment today for it :rolleyes:

    And aww thank you so much for the birthday wishes! @Camille and Cyclone very graciously donated their time and made a video for Kyo that I'll be posting tomorrow for the official OTJ! So so excited, I wish it was tomorrow already! I still consider it a late birthday present ;) from Kyo, haha
     

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