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Discussion in 'Prozinc / PZI' started by SashaV, Oct 30, 2020.

  1. SashaV

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    So Mauer went blue last night at +5.
    I set an alarm to check her at +6.
    But I slept through the alarms, yeah two of them...
    At +7 she was going up, thankfully she didn't go lower.
    I even left the lights on so I would wake up easier :banghead:

    I'm going grocery shopping today! Following your lead @Deb & Wink
    5 bags of cat litter :p
    Hopefully they'll last till February :cool:
     
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    Slept thru mine last night too! Felt like the worst mom ever when I finally woke up. 5 bags of cat litter? What did I miss?? Lol
     
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    I felt like the worst mom ever too! Horrible feeling!

    165 pounds of litter :D
    With the covid Deb is stocking up on essentials, so I followed :D
    Also bought 22 pounds of raw dog food.
    28 bags of wet food for the cats. 20 packs of cigarettes. Well I forgot the food for myself, but both my freezers is full...with cat and dog food :rolleyes:
    And a lickimat! Has any of you tried them for cats? The dog loved it!
     

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  4. SashaV

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    So I've been thru this site today, and I'm wondering if its a mistake that we increase and decrease in 0.25U intervals?
    I've been using this conversion chart http://www.petdiabetes.com/pdorg/u40_conv.htm
    Bottom of the page. It's the 0.25U.

    The "right" one, on this site, is this one
    http://www.felinediabetes.com/insulin-conversions.htm but its in 0.20U.
    Everywhere I've read it's always 0.25U we increase or decrease by. So either thats the mistake, or a wrong chart is floating around?

    If I started to use the "right" chart, I could skip the fats and skinnys. It's confusing really :oops:
    Either way I think I'm sticking to the wrong one, I finally got to the point where I don't need to check it a thousand times before drawing it up.
    Yeah, I got bored... :woot:

    Tried the lickimat! Guess who got there first, and ate the easy part? The fat one! :p:D

    @Deb & Wink I think I need to be more aggressive with Mauers dosage. This last month or so really made a difference. Even if she's at 16 mmol she's happy, playful, big pupils and talking. But I think it's going the wrong way again. Ugh, and its not every day I see huge clumps in the litter tray! :D
     
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    May want to add toilet paper to that list! Went today NONE in stock
     
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  6. SashaV

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    I did that last week, before the new restrictions. :D
    Every time I open one pack, I buy a new one. Its not the worst ting to not have.
    And why are we hoarding toiletpaper? I did it too the first lockdown. But I haven't got the slightest idea why...
     
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    I think we all have Covid brain ‍
     
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  8. SashaV

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    Most definitely!
    And covid tiredness. And covid stress.
    And now it's almost a year since it started.
     
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  9. Deb & Wink

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    No Sasha, the 0.25U increments are correct.
    The conversion chart is correct. It's showing you the difference between using U40 syringes or U100 syringes FOR A U40 INSULIN.
    When using a U40 insulin with U100 syringes, you still record the dose on the SS as if you are using U40 syringes. So you are doing a "backward" conversion if you are using U100 syringes.

    U40 insulin syringes are fatter and the concentration of the U40 insulin is less. So when using a U100 syringe with a U40 insulin, you have to multiple the U40 insulin amount by 2.5 to get the amount to measure in a U100 syringe.

    Got that?

    p.s. 5 bags of litter would only last me about 2 months with my ONE cat. Extreme peeing, due to kidney disease, so I scoop a dozen times a day, at least.

    Me? I have election anxiety stress. Let's not go there though,ok? Don't want to get political here,as it's a forbidden subject. Along with religion, except in the most general of terms.
     
  10. SashaV

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    No, I don't got it :banghead::(:(:(:(
    I understand why we use it, I gave Mauer an overdose with the wrong syringe the first time she got the prozinc. So I get why it's there and why it's necessary.
    What I don't get, is why the chart from this site has 0.20U intervals, and we say do 0.25U.

    It's bad timing for an election. Or bad timing for covid.. or both. Maybe just the covid. :woot:
    Omg! Really? You must have huge expenses on litter!

    You be safe, dear :bighug:
    We just broke all our records on new infections :banghead:
     
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  11. SashaV

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    Five blues in a row!
    And an unusual low amps, maybe a double dip?
     
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    0.2 or 0.25, it's not a big difference. But all the dosing protocols on this message board were written with small dose changes in mind, and all use the 0.25U increments. Don't know the background on that.

    Because the people that wrote the dosing protocols, had more experience with various insulins, and came up with a consistent reduction/increase amount. Some of it was based on scientific literature, but I can't point you to specifics.

    Because the chart you are referring to takes the U40 insulin amount and converts it to the amount you draw up in a U100 syringe.
    Most people that are using Prozinc, use the U40 syringes, not the U100 syringes.
    They don't need to use the conversion chart if they are using the same syringes as their concentration of insulin.
    U40 insulin, use a U40 syringe. U100 insulin, use a U100 syringe.

    The advantage to using U100 syringes with a U40 insulin are that it let's you draw up a larger amount in the U100 syringe, and that can be easier to measure and see for accuracy. The lines are a tiny bit farther apart on a U100 syringe, if you are using the 3/10 CC syringes. The lines are WAY too close together on U100 syringes of you use the 5/10 cc or the 1 cc syringes. (The 1 cc syringes are what the cat shelter sent home with me when I fostered Wink. IMPOSSIBLE to measure a U100 insulin in those syringes, as the lines are too close together.)

    It's more helpful at lower doses, under 1 Unit, to be able to measure those teeny amounts of Prozinc insulin in a U100 syringe, versus a U40 syringe.

    The conversion is 2.5 times the U40 amount.

    SO:
    1 unit of Prozinc measured in a U40 syringe = 2.5 Units measured in a U100 syringe
    0.5 units of Prozinc measured in a U40 syringe = 1.25U measured in a U100 syringe
    0.4 units of Prozinc measured in a U40 syringe = 1U measured in a U100 syringe
    0.3 units of Prozinc measured in a U40 syringe = 0.75U measured in a U100 syringe
    0.2 units of Prozinc measured in a U40 syringe = 0.5U measured in a U100 syringe
    0.1 units of Prozinc measured in a U40 syringe = 0.25U measured in a U100 syringe

    The US reached a daily high of 99,321+ new covid infections for the day, yesterday, Friday 10/30/20.

    Our clocks change, falling back 1 hour tonight, Saturday 10/31/20. Second full moon of the month, which makes this a Halloween Blue Moon. There won't be another blue moon on Halloween for 19 years. So I need to take advantage, and get good looks at this year's Halloween Blue Moon. :cool:
     
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  13. Deb & Wink

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    Nice string of blues for Mauer!!!!
     
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    Hmm. I thought most of us used the U100 syringes. Then I learned something new today!

    Yeah, I know. Don't know the statistics but we're a tiny tiny country compared to the US. Like really tiny :oops:

    Is a blue moon a full moon that happens to be on Halloween?

    I KNOW!:D But she needs to stop teasing me and go higher before she drops. It's confusing. :eek::oops:
     
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    Oh my God I love her!
    So I started the dryer and went out in the garden for a smoke. The whole time I was out there I could hear her talking at the dryer. :D
    I was sitting out there giggling thinking maybe ill get a blue amps! Talking, huge pupils, very awake and happy.
    19.1 o_O Made the insulin ready. But it didn't make any sense so I did another test after she ate, 19.8. Oh well... insulin on board.
    Still talking and I'm still giggling :D:joyful:
     
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    A "blue moon" is the second full moon in a month, something that doesn't happen often. So the term "Once in a blue moon" denotes rarity. https://www.smithsonianmag.com/science-nature/where-did-blue-moon-term-come-from-18148510/

    Talking to the dryer?!? Asking it for some food perhaps.

    No, not everyone uses U100 syringes with a U40 insulin.

    Never hurts do double check the BG level again, before you give Mauer the shot of insulin.
     
  17. SashaV

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    How exciting with the blue moon!
    Was is beautiful?
    I love how the moon lights everything up.

    No, she was actually talking to the dryer. I bought it a few weeks ago, and got my washer home. Before that neither of the cats has seen those machines before. And you can see the clothes go round and round in both machines. Very hypnotizing to a cat apparently :D:smuggrin:
     
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    Mauers spreadsheet looks beautiful! Blue and a single green. But her pmps is sky rocketing :banghead:
    Never had this many good days in a row!
     
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    This might go to sh*t
    The covid has mutated in our mink and they're infecting us back with a new string.
    I live in the outbreak region. Later today 7 counties will have more restrictions, thankfully not mine specific, but my neighbor county will be in a total lock down. We might be the new epicenter :banghead:
    Every mink in the entire country is being killed. Every single one, even the healthy ones.

    Just an update.... in case anyone was curious.
     
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    So happy for you and Mauer!

    I see this with Hercs too.... it is like he always has to pay the price of a good day....:(


    I read about it... so sad!!
     
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    Now no one is allowed to move from one county to another, unless they have a critical function like doctors and nurses. Public transportation is discontinued, daycare and kindergarten is open but middle school is getting a virtual education like in the spring. My county isn't shutting down..yet anyway.
     
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    Keep yourself safe Sasha, keep yourself safe please.:bighug:

    Aren't you glad you stocked up on cat food for your freezer, and litter for your spare closet?;)

    I did read about the covid19 virus mutating in the mink, and how the government of Denmark planned to kill every mink in the country. Sad yes, but if the virus had mutated yet again and become more easily transmitted from person to person, it would be far more tragic.
     
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    I'm trying my best to be safe! :bighug:
    I promise!

    I'm so glad I stocked up! A few less things to worry about :D

    Its only to prevent the new form of covid spreading, and still they don't know how. Seagulls are expected to be the ones who spreading it, but they cross borders easier than us humans o_O
    And when the minks have had it and given it back to us, the antibodies change so a vaccine might not work :eek:
    As of now only 12 people had the new variant...that we know of.
     
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    It's working!
    This odd dosing. She's never had low yellow pre-shot tests and ONLY blues :cool::D
    Darn!
    She could have been green, but that's out next goal!
    Just think... just a month ago I was terrified of her going too low, and I didn't like the blue they felt unsafe, even though I know they're the next best thing. I LOVE BLUE! :oops:

    And she's never had this many awesome days in a row!

    Anti-jinx! Anti-jinx! Anti-jinx!!!! :eek:

    When the world is upside down, restrictions everywhere, lock downs.. really leaves a lot of time to put in our sugarcats :bookworm:

    I'm excited to reach the greens, and not being terrified of them. I want one of those boooooring spreadsheets with the occasional yellow at the highest, and only blue and green!

    Hope you're all doing well and is safe!
    This year is really weird to say the least :nailbiting:
     
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    Here is seconding your wish for a "boooooring spreadsheeet" with mostly blues and greens!
     
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    So something was off yesterday, she didn't really go down.
    Today my mission was to get her down again so she wouldn't stick around up there in the pinks and yellow, well...I succeeded! I just wasn't planning on a blue pmps.
    I've had this gut feeling all day, that I needed to sleep, that I might need it... hopefully I'm wrong!

    I really really like what's going on! Blue and green during the day, higher at night. In the future she'll need blue in her pm cycle too, but for now I'm comfortable with the numbers she's gives. And then we can talk about blue pre-shot numbers, but for now I really dislike those!

    Hope you're safe and well, Deb! And your election stress is over! :D:bighug:
     
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    Ss is acting up.
    +2 15.1
    I'll do a usual +5
     
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    +5 13.6
     
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    SS still not letting you update? At least that 13.6 mmol/L (245 mg/dL) at +5 is plenty high. Probably high enough to let you get some sleep tonight.

    Yes, safe and well here. It was the not knowing that was hard to deal with. It won't be easy, but the country needed a person that cared about everyone, kind of like we do here on the message board.
     
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    No :banghead:
    I regularly have to open her ss on my MacBook so my phone will allow me to update. It's really annoying :banghead:
    Have tried the help forum at Google spreadsheet no one seems to have a solution.

    I understand! The not knowing is hard. But darn it was exciting! Really anything would be better than what you've had :rolleyes:

    So we're killing those minks. On Saturday a driver didn't make sure his cargo was secure.. so he dropped dead, swollen and really stinking minks all the way from the farm to his destination. Mostly on the freeway that got shut down, so they could clean up his mess.
    The government says they aren't infectious anymore. But those who aren't being burned for heat, is being buried in mass graves on selected spots, and sealed with chalk. So I don't know what to think really..
    But he dropped them!!! Freaking all over!!! :banghead:
     
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    Is there perhaps an update to Google Sheets or something that needs to be installed on your phone?

    I've heard of lots of things being spilled on the highway, when a truck driver overturned his vehicle. Dead stinky possibly covid mutation infected mink is a new one.
     
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    I wish, but no. And I've tried changing the settings nothing works. Sometimes it works for three days then it needs to be opened on a computer. Maybe it's karma cause it always happens in the least convenient situations :D

    I slept through my alarm again. Didn't test her last night at all. She seemed fine when I was up peeing at +6.5 so I went back to bed.

    Yeah right? Now it turns out that the government had no law to support to kill them..
    Now two farmers has tried to commit suicide. What a freak show! I feel so bad for those farmers I really do. It's horrible :(
     
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    Another blue PMPS.
    Well... it's terrifying.

    This is what's supposed to happen, right?
    Her body getting used to be in healthy range, and is down there for longer? Not fighting the insulin to get back up?

    I'm quite amazed. Who would have thought breaking all the rules would be the way to go?!
    I don't even see a diabetic cat anymore. During the night she can occasionally pee a lot. She hasn't been drinking for a long time. She's alert, resting a lot but is aware and awake.

    About the drinking... so Miver is possibly a bit constipated. But I simply can't get him to drink anything. No dry food, only raw and canned so I'd believe he's hydrated enough. But apparently not? I gave him a little subq fluids yesterday - it's on prescription so I'm not too thrilled to use it since it's really!!! unusual for clientes to rehydrate their pets at home with subq fluids. So I'm not sure I can get my hands on anymore. But it worked!
    I'm already mixing water in their canned food, he won't take it from a syringe, already have a water fountain..
    Any thoughts on making water more appealing? I know, totally reversed situation here!

    I'm so glad it's finally going the right way with Mauer. She also lost a bit of weight!
     
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    Yes, this is supposed to be what happens.

    You use what works Sasha. ECID (Every Cat is Different)

    Yeah! You said she needed to lose a bit of weight.

    Can't think of anything else to increase Miver's water consumption that you aren't already trying. Although, some cats love ice cubes. Maybe add some ice cubes to the water? Or put some ice cubes in a dish and see if Miver goes for them?

    Have you tried a little bit of plain pumpkin or winter squash in a small dish for Miver? Some cats love pumpkin, and will lap it right up. The pumpkin adds fiber to the diet and can help with constipation. Only a little bit at first, or Miver may end up with diarrhea. Perhaps try a teaspoon or so with him.

    I did hear that the government had no authority to kill the mink. When your livelihood is taken away, like it has been for those mink farmers, they have no idea how they will survive, now or in the future. Suicide is not the answer. That leaves everyone around you devastated and in a worse situation.
     
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    Actually a very good idea with the ice cubes!
    He gets half of his food from the freezer and he loves it.
    Haven't tried the pumpkin or winter squash, I don't even know what a winter squash is :oops:
    I don't believe I can buy pumpkin all year round either.
    But I've used slippery elm with good results I think.
    Also tried HUSK seeds, lactolose, paraffin, microlax. The lactolose worked like a charm but it took months to get him of it again with a slow taper. Also the royal canin fibre response worked...

    Mauer needs to loose more than a little :nailbiting:
    She's almost at 8 kilos, her healthy weight is at 5.5 kilos :oops:

    The farmers will get compensation for their animals. But still.. its their life's work that is disappearing in front of them in a few days. :(

    It's odd that Mauer hasn't been blue during the PM cycle for some time now. Means more nice sleep for me, but seems odd.
    Hopefully she'll show me a blue amps for the first time on prozinc!
     
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    This is obviously the reason for his constipation......
    I really don't know where he gets this amount of hair and fur! He is not shedding and he doesn't groom Mauer. Even MY hair is in there! I wonder if its totally unreasonable to think his bowl is full of fur and it's just being stored there until something catches it on the way out?
    Darn a puzzle! He is brushed regularly, so is Mauer. He eats grass but it never comes up the "right" way....
    Just a warning..nasty pic coming up!
     

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    Is canned plain pumpkin or orange colored squash available? Doesn't have to be fresh.
    A winter squash is one of many types of squash that keep for a longer period of time, over the winter months. They have thicker, harder skins than summer squash do (zucchini, yellow crookneck, pattypan, delicata are some types of summer squash) So something like butternut, acorn, hubbard, kubota, etc. Here is a picture that shows many types of winter squash. The one thing they have in common is the usually orange colored flesh, beneath the skin.

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    Weight gain for people is much easier than weight loss. Same idea for cats. It will take time for her to lose more weight. Every little bit of weight loss helps her to process the insulin better.

    Well, you've been giving Mauer a greatly reduced dose in the PM, so her BG levels go much higher overnight and she winds up in those pinks and yellows BG ranges for AM pre-shot. You should think about a bit more insulin for the PM dose. I think you have reduced it too far. Especially in comparison to the AM dose. Try to even things out a bit more with the dose.

    Does Miver get to go outside in your garden? Perhaps he is eating mice and voles and moles and such. Brushing helps, but you really have to get down into the underfur, and get all of that brushed and combed out of him. You could try shaving him, and see if that makes a difference in the constipation.

    p.s. We are used to seeing poop pictures. Although, I did wait until I was almost finished with dinner before taking a peek.;)
     
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    I was planning on upping her PM dose. Her +2 is always higher than the pre-shot and stays up there. Shouldn't any insulin be lowering her BG, no matter the dose?

    I'll take a look on the pumpkins next time I go grocery shopping :D
    He is never outside without supervision, and the only thing he's been eating is a bit of grass. I'll try brushing him more frequently. But I don't think shaving him is the way to go... my hair is in there too.... and I don't wanna be bald :oops::nailbiting:
    But I think it's old fur, I think it's been inside him for a while. Funny thing...it's really soft so maybe it's partially degraded?
     
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    Not always. +2 is when the insulin starts to onset, or begin working for most cats. But we've already discussed how Mauer doesn't seem to see any effects from the insulin until around +3.

    Second factor is that the food is being digested, and that can keep the BG levels a bit higher at +2 also. It's not until around +3 to +4 that you usually see the BG levels going down after a cat has eaten. ECID of course.

    We won't make you shave your head! No worries there. The soft part is because the digestive enzymes start to break down the hair also, and coat the hair with some "gunk" to make it feel softer. Those digestive enzymes are like using a conditioner on your own hair, to make it softer and easier to comb out and get the tangles out.

    They have these brushes for cats that get right down into the underfur, and cut some of the hair out. Like this one. https://www.amazon.com/FURminator-Long-Hair-deShedding-Large/dp/B0040QS3PO I've used this as well as a metal long toothed comb first, to get out the mats, on a couple of long haired cats. Like on Wink.
     
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    She didn't even go down last night :banghead:
    I need to find my courage and shoot higher in the PM cycle.
    And stop testing at +2 it's clearly just a waste of teststrips..

    Good idea! Haven't been using the furminator since it's bad for the fur, but in this case it really doesn't matter. Anything I get off him, doesn't end up in his system.
    But I still don't get how my hair ends up there... it's like spaghetti - no fun to eat unless it's cut several times :oops:o_O
     
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    I tried my best NOT to be a chicken.
    Shot higher than I'd like....
    And she must have been lower after I stopped testing. She didn't eat during the day, neither did Miver (who made a nice looking poop, still with fur but a lot less!) I think I've put too much water in their food.. but the dog ate it just fine, so it wasn't that bad :oops:

    I'm sleeping so horrible. How did you do it, Deb?
    I feel like I'm used to being up every night testing, but if she has a blue pmps I wake up almost every hour :nailbiting:
    I get my 8 hours of sleep usually but it doesn't feel like it...
    I'd really like just one day a week that I could sleep through just passed out like the pre-diabetic Sasha did.....
     
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    Yes, you do.
    I've had chronic insomnia for decades. That helped me to manage Wink, since I was often awake anyway. Still wasn't easy and it's too easy to get run down and get sick if you aren't getting enough sleep and taking care of yourself with diet and exercise.

    Could not sleep last night, sciatica was acting up. So I got up super early, like 4:45 am, got things done at home and went grocery shopping during "senior hours". I was the first customer to walk in the door this morning, at 6 am. Very tired today. Hopefully, I'll sleep better tonight. The nap I promised myself today never happened. Too busy reorganizing the food storage today.

    It's perfectly normal for people to wake up multiple times a night. But then you have to do whatever it takes to get yourself back to sleep. Normal sleep cycles run about 45 minutes each, and we don't usually notice when we wake up. Turning your mind "off" is hard to do, when you are worrying about something.
     
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    Exercise? What is that? Can it be done on my couch? :oops::banghead::nailbiting:

    I'm sorry you battle insomnia, must be very hard :bighug:
    Is your "senior hours" at 6 am?!
    Ours is like 8-12 am.

    I have no issue falling a sleep after I've been up. But it's not normal to be 28 and up peeing 5 times every night. And then having to poke the cat, turning on the lights and wake up even more. And having to pee that many times means I wake up cause I'm thirsty several times besides that. And yes, I regularly get checked for diabetes :D
    I sleep like a baby when I've had a migraine and taken pain meds. No peeing or drinking but still I need to get up to poke the cat.

    Hope your sciatica is better! :bighug:

    And I shot higher! Not high enough though.
    I think I need to go even higher in her am cycle if she's pink or red. On those days she never reaches blue.
     
  45. Deb & Wink

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    I see that Mauer was in the yellow range for the AMPS test today, 11/14/20.
    Yes, you did shoot higher in the AM yesterday. But I think you need to shoot a bit higher in the PM cycle too.
    For example, that 3U shot you are giving Mauer in the evening should be closer to 3.25U or even 3.5U in my opinion.

    I do my physical therapy exercises while laying in bed in the mornings. ;)

    Senior hours for grocery shopping at this particular supermarket chain are 6-7 AM. That's it.
    Not meaning to be too intrusive into your own health, so forget I asked if you prefer.
    Have your thyroid levels been checked? For Graves disease or hyperthyroidism.
    UTI (urinary tract infections) cause frequent urination in cats (humans too).
    Some medications can cause frequent urination. Diuretics for example.
    Drinking too much liquid (or caffeine or alcohol).

    Bottom line, this is something to talk to your doctor about.
     
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    You're getting better numbers in the morning, but why are you shooting much less in the evening? Why not do 4 am and pm?
     
  47. SashaV

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    Last night was a great example. I shot a 3U she got blue, if I had given her 4U like her am dose, she would have earned a reduction. A reduction that wouldn't do anything to her BG in the am cycle. The prozinc is much more powerful in the PM cycle on Mauer. 90% of her reductions happens at night. She's never had these awesome numbers during the day, since I stopped following the usual guidelines, so it works for us. But the PM shot definitely needs some fine tuning.
     
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    You still think so, Deb?
    I think a 3.5U would have resulted in a reduction :oops: depending the pre-shot test of course, but yesterday I believe would have been too much.
    She got blue and bounced right back up :banghead:
    I slept through my alarms again :banghead::arghh:

    Speaking of the alarms.... I think I need to ask my neighbor if he's bothered by my alarms during the night :nailbiting:
    Why didn't I think of that before?
    I'd hate having a neighbor who's alarms go off in the middle of the night, and keeps ringing!

    Funny with such a difference in senior shopping hours :D

    I've been checked for that too, nothings wrong with me. Maybe it's a sympathy thing? With Mauer, that I just haven't got over yet :p
    I'm aware of the thread. Will make a new one soon! :bighug:
     
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    Yes it was blue, but still above normal range. You wanna see numbers around 85-110. Remember normal on a human meter is 50-120. Those nice healing green and low blue numbers are the goal to heal that pancreas and hopefully achieve remission. Although I agree 4 might be too much. I would try 3.5.
     
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  50. SashaV

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    I'm on my way up there, I just wanna go slow so I can see what's happening. And I'm quite fine with the higher blues in her PM cycle.. I am building up my courage to see her in the greens :oops:
    In comparison to a month ago I feel great about her AM numbers, on the good days - today is not one of them :banghead:
    So my head kinda needs to be on board, knowing it isn't dangerous.. when I stress Mauer is stressed too, and that doesn't yield anything good :nailbiting:
    The goal is definitely to get her down in the healthy numbers! And hopefully stay there! :bighug:
    I just know myself. I'm gonna panic and mess everything up, as seen before :woot:
     
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  51. Deb & Wink

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    Yes, I do think you need to up the PM dose a bit from what you are giving Mauer.

    Yes, I understand you are still scared of those green BG numbers. But you have gotten more used to the blue now. We just have to get you over the stressed out scared feelings you have about Mauer being in the green BG ranges.

    So how do you talk your head into letting you shoot more insulin in the PM cycle, so that Mauer gets down into those healing green BG ranges?
     
  52. SashaV

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    By easing into it.
    I'm not scared of the green range in the AM cycle, so that's an improvement!
    The blue pre-shots I've been getting is now more annoying than scary cause they mean less sleep to me :oops:
    But I need to find the dose where she goes down, but not too far. Especially when I'm shooting a blue.

    When I get a red amps she never goes blue. If I'm home to closely monitor her, could I shoot 4.75U safely or maybe even higher? Just to get through whatever is keeping her up.

    I'll start a new thread tomorrow. :D
     
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    Yes.
     

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