TYLER'S JOURNEY #4

CONTINUED FROM PREVIOUS THREAD WHICH WAS #3
MONDAY 7-1-19
AMPS - 177 0.5 on the line or FAT 0.5?

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   His numbers are good but they still could come down a bit. I'd stick with at least 0.5 fat but given his recent activity, I think you could try 0.75 skinny with usual monitoring. It might just coax him down to a high dark green

 

Ok I'm going with the 0.75 SKINNY
MONDAY 7-1-19
AMPS - 177 Shooting 0.75 SKINNY
+2 - 117 fed him FF @MrWorfMen's Mom

+ 3 152 I think this might be this high at +3 because about 20 minutes before I feed him his FF Pate he just wouldn't shut up, crying and crying for food so I gave him about 6 Dr Elseys Clean Protein Dry and then after testing him at +2 I fed him his FF. Next time I'm going to lock him in the bathroom, only kidding, I have a weird sense of humor.
Will now test him at +5 to see if he might have dropped some and the dry food is out of his system @MrWorfMen's Mom

+5 - 123 I guess the dry food got out of his system since his BG dropped, just fed him a teaspoon of the FF Chicken Pate @MrWorfMen's Mom

+8 - 136 he ate about a teaspoon of FF will test tonight at 9:00 pm @MrWorfMen's Mom

 

@MrWorfMen's Mom Tested Tyler
MONDAY 7-1-19
PMPS - 169. SKINNY 0.75 again? @MrWorfMen's Mom
Still couldn't get any dark green numbers yet or consistent
low blues

 

Yes looks like you can do the skinny 0.75u again. Seems he wobbled a bit today....interesting but good cycle.

 

What does wobbled mean do you mean the +3 of 152 then the drop @+5 of 123
You don't think it was the dry Dr Elseys Clean Protein I gave him? @MrWorfMen's Mom

 

BG went down, up and back down then back up slowly. Like a baby roller coaster but a smooth one.

 

Ok got it, thanks for explaining you don't think it was because of the dry food I fed him? @MrWorfMen's Mom

 

Dr. Elsey's is low carb so I doubt 6 pieces would do much but maybe the extra pieces because of calories/volume of food rather than carbs caused that blip. Can't remember the carb% of Dr. E's. Is it higher than the FF?

 

Found this in the Chewy site about Dr Elseys Clean Protein Chicken Dry Food
This food contains 4.28% Carbohydrates on an as fed basis, 4.69% on a dry matter basis

This formula contains 554 calories per cup @MrWorfMen's Mom

 

MONDAY 7-1-19
PMPS - 169 Skinny 0.75 u
+2 - 113 did not want any food
+3.5 - 136 no food
+5.75 - 170 no food @MrWorfMen's Mom

 

@MrWorfMen's Mom morning Linda
TUESDAY 7-2-19
AMPS - 191 should I stay with the SKINNY 0.75u
Last night as you can see above #10 he didn't want any food at all? @MrWorfMen's Mom

 

Sounds good to me. I'm sure Tyler will eat if he gets hungry or his BG starts dropping a lot. As long as his appetite doesn't drop off completely, I wouldn't worry about it.

 

Ok Linda, I just wish at some point soon he will give us some dark green numbers, This morning when I went to feed him his FF he turned his head, so I put some on my finger and he started to lick it off, did this about 4 times until he finally started eating from the dish, he's a spoiled brats, lol but I'd bet you if I put the Dr Elseys in front of him he would scoff them up @MrWorfMen's Mom

 

TUESDAY 7-2-19
AMPS - 191 giving SKINNY 0.75 u
+2 - 114 ate some FF
+4 - 131 No food
+7.5 - 216 I just can't believe this 216! @MrWorfMen's Mom

 

@MrWorfMen's Mom hey Linda
PMPS - 213 0.75 Skinny again?
I went ahead with the Skinny 0.75 tonight
+2- 152 did not feed
+ 3- 112 gave FF
+4 - 111 gave FF
+5 - 118

 

@MrWorfMen's Mom morning Linda
Wednesday 7-3-19
AMPS - 209 I guess it's Skinny 0.75?
I went ahead with the Skinny 0.75 this morning
+2 - 121 fed some FF
+4.5 - 127 very small amount of Dr Elseys Dry Clean Protein
+8 -169

 

Tyler is doing fine. Those yellow PSs are not high and could very well be blues with meter variance.

 

Ok thanks Linda @MrWorfMen's Mom

 

@MrWorfMen's Mom hey Linda
WEDNESDAY 7-3-19
PMPS - 165 should I do the same SKINNY 0.75 @MrWorfMen's Mom

 

I would say yes but it looks like you already made that decision which is great!

 

Thank you

 

WEDNESDAY 7-3-19
PMPS - 165
+2 - 127 Fed FF
+3 - 120 Didn't want any food
+4 - 131 @MrWorfMen's Mom

 

@MrWorfMen's Mom morning , now I really don't know what to shoot
THURSDAY 7-4-19
AMPS - 133 @MrWorfMen's Mom

 

Have you fed him yet? If not don't and retest in 20 minutes.

 

Oh s**t he just finished eating right now at 9:20 am @MrWorfMen's Mom

 

I didn't know when you got a BG that was not his usual it might be a fluke to not feed and re test again in 20 minutes @MrWorfMen's Mom

 

Ok. If u will be home to keep an eye on Tyler, And u have lots of strips and higher carb food, u could try 0.25u.

 

Well I have plenty of strios and home all day, but the high carb food, one day last week I bought the FF in gravy, two types to see if he would eat it, he wouldn't no matter what I tried. So all I have in the house that is high carbs is still the dry Iams chicken flavor and karo @MrWorfMen's Mom

 

I wasn't saying to not feed and retest to see if it was a fluke. You do that to see if BG is rising on it's own and if it is, then you can decide if it's safe to give a bigger dose.

 

As long as you have karo you can make higher carb food by mixing some into the LC food. I doubt you'll need it based on Tyler's current habits but we just never know.

 

Ok got it, I'm going to shoot the 0.25 u, I'm a little nervous, but I want to see what happens, are u going to be around today @MrWorfMen's Mom thanks for explaining to me about seeing if a BG is rising on it's on his morning, at least I know what to do now if it happens again @MrWorfMen's Mom

 

Yes I'll be around for the most part. Gotta go pull some weeds from between the interlock on the front walk but probably won't last long out there. With humidity it's supposed to be close to 100 degrees today. I like heat but that might be just a bit too much. Grab a +2 and I'll check back in then.

 

Thanks so much Linda, will check +2
I hear ya about the humidity, it's brutal here already, don't stay out to long, talk later @MrWorfMen's Mom

 

jumping in to say, if those weeds are too pesky, spray them with vinegar, often it works better than the chemical sprays

 

Thanks. I use vinegar but I have a park across the street which needless to say is less than well kept so I tend to still have to yank them up by the roots every couple of weeks and reapply a healthy wash of vinegar. Even the chemical stuff doesn't keep them at bay. SIGH!

 

@MrWorfMen's Mom ok just tested at +2
+2 -134 hasn't changed really at all from this morning
THURSDAY 7-4-19
AMPS -133 gave 0.25 u
+2 - 134. When do you think I should check again? @MrWorfMen's Mom

 

He's staying pretty flat right now. Check him at +4. Let's see if he can get down to dark green today.

 

Ok will do , thanks Linda @MrWorfMen's Mom I see two other cats threw a low a low pre shot today, we are keeping you busy today. I'm so appreciative you are here helping us

 

Yup. It quite often seems we'll get a rash of low pre-shots or kitties out shark hunting all at once. Must be something in the water or the weather!?!

 

Lol you crack me up @MrWorfMen's Mom

 

How long did you last outside pulling the weeds @MrWorfMen's Mom

 

Just fed him about a teaspoon of FF at 1:00 pm @MrWorfMen's Mom

 

just glad we weren't one of them, given the high PMPS I was on the alert; instead, Catcat is flopped down resting after being highly stressed last night due to fireworks; since adult son is having a party in the yard, will be shooting all sorts of stuff off, we are planning to load Catcat into his carrier, drive around to find some place that's quiet -- or quiet-er -- maybe out to the airport, don't think fireworks are allowed in that area, might even take lounge chairs and sleeping bags, make a night of it

 

Poor Catcat with those damn fireworks, I'm just waiting for tonight to see what goes on around here with fireworks, I dread every 4th of July.If I remember correctly weren't you going to change insulin once Catcat had dental work done. @CandyH and Catcat

 

Gotta go check out my backyard for firework shells yet again. Idiot behind and one house over was shooting stuff off in the corner of his property close to the fence on the 1st. I'm surprised we didn't end up with greenery on fire. Thankfully they weren't loud fireworks so my kitties weren't terrified for a change. It was relatively quiet here this year. Hopefully you find someplace quiet!

 

Some people are idiots, they should ban the selling of fireworks again, only have them that are run by the town, here where I live Lyndhurst N.J. they have them down by our County Park, those I don't here, it's idiot kids around here and their dumb parents shooting them off way past 11:00 pm. @MrWorfMen's MomI am also 10 minutes away from Giant Stadium, there is a big fair going on there and they also do them.

 

@MrWorfMen's Mom ok here is the +4
+4 - 138 like I said above he was hautning me to eat at 1:00 pm so gave him a tsp FF
So we have
THURSDAY 7-4-19
AMPS - 133
+2 - 134
+4 - 138
+6 - . 152 @MrWorfMen's Mom How many more times do you think I should test him today, until his PMPS rolls around which 9:00 pm @MrWorfMen's Mom

 

thought it might be more prudent to wait a few days still on Vetsulin, to see what effect if any, the dental work had on his BG -- so far doesn't seem like much, if anything the values went up, but that could be stress, could be residual infection from dental extractions or that cat acne that suppurated (two different antibiotics injected plus I'm treating topically with chlorhexidine, benzoyl peroxide, and clindamycin) -- I figured change just one thing at a time -- so in a day or two I'll transition to Lantus, think it will be a blessing for all of us -- less work even though I'll have to do a curve or two (poor Catcat, he hates those)

 

Let us know what happens when you switch

 

I'd grab a +6 and then call it till PMPS. He's pretty flat today. If he's going to do anything with that 1/4 unit he'll likely do it by +6.

 

Ok will test @+6 @MrW

 

@MrWorfMen's Mom ok
+6 - 152 will see what his PMPS is tonight at 9:00 pm

 

@MrWorfMen's Mom ok
THURSDAY 7-4-19
PMPS - 146 what do you have up your sleeve for this one lol, I guess it's pretty good that he got a low BG this am and pm ?
What do you think I should shoot? @MrWorfMen's Mom

 

I think 'cause it's a night cycle I'd stick to the 0.25u for tonight. Next time he does the lower BG in the morning, I think you might be able to try 0.5 skinny. He didn't do as much with the 0.25u from that lower BG this morning as I thought he might. Let's see what he does tonight.

 

Ok , just had to feed him asap because of people shooting off fireworks blocks away. It just let up for awhile and thank God Tyler scoffed it down quickly for a change.
Ok if tomorrow morning I get another low BG I'm still going to check with you before I go ahead with the Skinny 0.5. I'd feel better if you saw what it was before me going ahead with it ok? Let's see what tonight brings @MrWorfMen's Mom

 

@MrWorfMen's Mom just tested Tyler at +4 it's 91
Just to go over it
THURSDAY 7-4-19
PMPS - 146 gave 0.25 units
+2 - 143 fed him FF
+4 - 91 fed him FF and some Dr Elseys Clean Protein Dry going to re test in 30 minutes which would be at 2:30 am to tell you the truth when I saw 91 I got weak in the legs lol , was a big drop don't you think so?
Re tested at 2:30 am 134 No Food Given will re test
+5.75 - 141 @MrWorfMen's Mom

 

Whoo Hoo! A perfect green reading. Love it! Anxious to see what he does by AMPS.

 

@MrWorfMen's Mom morning Linda don't Whoo Hoo this morning lol it's Boo Who lol
FRIDAY 7-5-19
AMPS - 224 I thought he would give me way lower than this
What do you think for this morning @MrWorfMen's Mom 0.75 Skinny?

 

That is not unexpected. Tyler might be bouncing a bit from that low last night. As long as you can monitor him I'd try the 0.75u skinny.

 

Ok I thought you might say that lol, Will go with the skinny 0.75, I know we have shot this before and he was ok with it, let's see what happens, will talk later and thanks

 

@MrWorfMen's Mom here we go
FRIDAY 7-5-19
AMPS - 224 shot 0.75 Skinny
+2 - 96 fed him FF and counted out 10 kibbles of Dr Elseys Clean Protein Dry
Can I wait until +3 to test him again or should it be sooner? @MrWorfMen's Mom

 

I'd check him at +3 just to be sure he isn't on a bigger mission.

 

Going to test him right now, it's time

 

@MrWorfMen's Mom ok just tested at
+3 - 122. When would you say I would have to test again, maybe one more time or can I wait until PMPS @MrWorfMen's Mom

 

That's likely a food bump now. I think you can hold off till +5. That should be getting to the end of nadir by his usual habits.

 

Ok thanks Linda, +5 it is Another brutal day again with the heat

 

Same here. Expecting thunder storms this evening. That is supposed to cool things off a bit here for the weekend but just to tolerable levels. YEAH!

 

Hopefully here too. Just tested Tyler at
+5 - 126 think I have to feed him anything , he's sound asleep, should I test @+6 again @MrWorfMen's Mom
So we have
FRIDAY 7-5-19
AMPS - 224
+2 - 96 feed him
+3 - 122
+5 - 126 @MrWorfMen's Mom
+8.5 - 168 @MrWorfMen's Mom

 

He's surfing so I don't think you need to test again unless you want to grab a test around +9 or +10 to fill in some white space on the SS.

 

Ok will do, thanks Linda, let's see what he's up to tonight, I test at 9:00 pm @MrWorfMen's Mom

 

@MrWorfMen's Mom did +8.5 -168 to fill in some white spaces

 

@MrWorfMen's Mom Tested Tyler
FRIDAY 7-5-19
PMPS - 168 looks like he stayed the same since the +8.5 this afternoon
What do you think I should shoot, the 0.75 skinny again or 0.5 skinny since it's night time

 

Try 05u on the line and see what he does. I don't think I'd go with the 0.75u given how low he went today or last night on even less insulin at a slightly lower BG.

 

Ok will do and thank you @MrWorfMen's Mom

 

FRIDAY 7-5-19
PMPS - 168 shooting 0.5u right on the line
+2 - 113 @MrWorfMen's Mom
+5.25 .- 127

 

@MrWorfMen's Mom morning
SATURDAY 7-6-19
AMPS - 157 what do you think ?

 

I'd try a fat 0.5u although I think a skinny 0.75u might be ok as long as you monitor him. Tyler seems to be surfing nicely overall but I loved those greens showing up the last day and a half and would like to see more of them.

 

Ok I'm going with the 0.75 skinny, it's been a little tough eye balling it, now look underneath this post, do you see the avatar of Tyler , no name under it. That's what I can't get rid of , it happened last night when I was trying to remember how to post a picture of him . I was hitting the icons above where it starts with the letter B then there's an I, then a U @MrWorfMen's Mom

 

No clue about the picture. It's not showing up for me. Your avatar is showing up exactly where and how it should, over your user name for me.

 

Ok I give up lol, now after I just typed this , don't you see the avatar again with no name under it

 

Nope! LOL!

 

Ok , maybe it's always been there, waiting for me to reply to something

 

SATURDAY 7-6-19
AMPS 157 Skinny 0.75 u
+2 - 115 fed him FF
+4.5 - 142 done testing for now will test tonight @MrWorfMen's Mom

 

He's doing fine and surfing nicely in blues lately but I wish he wouldn't drop off so quickly. Can you back up that +2 feeding by an hour (i.e feed him again at +1 to see if that pushes out the drop at all?

 

Ok just so I understand it correctly , feed him a little bit @+1 so he does not drop that much at +2? Do I also have to test him at +1 I will start doing that tonight @MrWorfMen's Mom

 

@MrWorfMen's Mom did you miss this above just wanted to make sure I got it right

 

No need to test at +1 just feed him to see if that slows down the drop at all. I'd test again at +3 because at +2 I'd expect less of a drop due to the food.

 

Ok gotcha, let's see what tonight brings and I will do it then @MrWorfMen's Mom

 

@MrWorfMen's Mom ok
SATURDAY 7-6-19
PMPS - 143
What do you think, I was looking at FRIDAY nights BG which was 146 and we shot 0.25 and that's when at +4 he went down to 91 but then again on FRIDAY his AMPS was 133 and we shot 0.25 u and he stayed surfing , 134 then 138 , then 158
No ryme or reason lol
So what do you think we should shoot, and whatever we decide should I still feed at +1 to slow his drop and test at +3 going to shoot at 10:00 pm @MrWorfMen's Mom

 

I think I'd try the 0.25u again just so you don't have to hold a PJ party because these guys often go lower at night than during the day. You could try a skinny 0.5u but Tyler may drop lower than ideal and personally I'd be more inclined to try that on a day cycle. You are already staying up till the wee hours of the morning with Tyler. Don't need to extend that monitoring.

 

I agree lol, I'll go with the 0.25 u for tonight. Yes the day time would be better @MrWorfMen's Mom

 

@MrWorfMen's Mom just posted
PMPS. - 143 0.25u. waited 30 minutes and then shot
Fed him @+1 tonight to see if it would slow down his drop fed FF

Then did a
+3- 102. Gave him a very small amount of Dr Elseys Clean Protein Dry
Will test again
+5 - 131 @MrWorfMen's Mom

 

I have to go pick up the young man who cuts my lawn. Will be back around 10am if you need me but I think you know what to do. Will check in when I get back.

 

@MrWorfMen's Mom Tested Tyler
SUNDAY 7-7-19
AMPS - 181 I'm going to shoot around 10:00 am
I hope I know what to do lol. skinny 0.75 ? Then I would do what we talked about
Feed Tyler at +1 to see if that slows down his drop, then check at +3
How does that sound @MrWorfMen's Mom

 

Sounds good to me.

 

Ok just shot at 10:15 am , will give him a little FF @+1 to see if it slows his drop @MrWorfMen's Mom

 

@MrWorfMen's Mom Well so much for feeding Tyler @+1 to see if he wouldn't drop off so quickly, I fell asleep, I'm so mad , I really wanted to see if it worked. I should have set my alarm. You know what happens when you say to yourself I'll just close my eyes for a minute. I will definitely do it tomorrow morning depending on his AMPS, so I tested him
SUNDAY 7-7-19
AMPS - 181
+2 - 97 fed him his FF @MrWorfMen's Mom
At least we have something to compare it with when I do do the +1 feeding. On 7-5-19 and today 7-7-19 he dropped fast both times in the AMPS. They were both giving skinny 0.75 units. I just remembered I can't do it tomorrow morning , I have a doctor's appointment and I have to leave here at 11:30 am. Probably won't even be back home for his +2 test which would be at noon. So I want to be careful how much I shoot tomorrow morning.
@MrWorfMen's Mom

 

That's fine. We've all done the "just close my eyes" thing! You can be conservative with dosing tomorrow given you will be out for his usual early drop.

 

Yes I will be conservative tomorrow morning, that's why I'm going to check with you first before I shoot, so I'm not sitting in the doctor's office worrying lol. So this morning @+2 was a big early drop again. This might be a dumb question but what number are we looking for @+2 ? @MrWorfMen's Mom

 

SUNDAY 7-7-19
AMPS - 181 skinny 0.75
+2 - 97 fed him FF
+4 - 100 fed him FF @MrWorfMen's Mom
+10 - 145
Will test again at 9:00 pm his usual time, or do I even have to since I did @+10
No food has been given since +4 @MrWorfMen's Mom