9/16 Elmo AMPS 443, + 3 329, + 6.5 127, +9 78, + 10 83 PMPS 103,+1 123, + 2 130, + 3 155

Yesterday

Good morning and happy day to everyone

 

Good morning. I hope Elmo heads down for you today.

 

Good morning , Carla Prayers for a good work day and all your furbabies to have a wonderful day

 

Thanks. I hope you and your furbabies have a wonderful day too.

 

Hope Elmo comes down a little today!
Have a great day Beth !

 

Bring it on down there Elmo
Have a great day Beth

 

Thanks Lyane I think Elmo is competing with Luna in the bouncing ! Ti-Mousse is looking great !

 

Thanks Jamie

 

Encouraging news is continuing no ketones Thankful for that

 

HI Beth...just wanted to say hi and hope Elmo comes down for you slowly....hope your day is going well

 

+2. ...319....Giving thyroids ...thots on slowing drop ??? Give LC 5 plus smidge MC 14 ??? @Nan & Amber @MrWorfMen's Mom ????? Test again at + 3 ???

 

Sounds like a good plan-- I might even try bumping the carbs up with a bit more MC. The "smidge" has seemed to work well for slowing him down some, but we'd like to get to a place where you aren't testing every hour on these days, too.

 

I'd be careful giving too much MC. You want to slow him down but not stop him in his tracks. Got to get him into those healing numbers more too so he gets used to them and stops bouncing so much.

 

Bless his heart , he continues to come to the door going on to the deck where we usually test ...sunlight is bright and as soon as o go and get things ready , here he comes ❤️ When should I test next ??? This fine gauge lancets and good ole Relion Confirm need tiny blood sample ..grateful for that

 

Gave 1 t LC 5 plus 1/8 t MC 14 ...put that gravy on there and no assist feed needed !

 

Retest at +3

 

Lets see more pretty blues Elmo! Even though baby Elmo likes to bounce, he's trying for more blues.
Hope you enjoy the day Beth

 

So, I was thinking about this. I've been more or less assuming that Elmo's bounces are due to drop speed, not where he ends up. The reason I've been assuming this is that I've been assuming that his relapse was caught earlier than most new diabetics-- so he hasn't really had a lot of time to "get used to" high numbers. I could be wrong about this, and I also could be wrong about just how long it takes for a cat's body to decide that reds and blacks are normal. Maybe it happens really fast, especially for a bounce-prone kitty like Elmo (note: my own Amber has never been a bouncer, so I don't have the hands-on experience here).

Anyway, this is all to say, I've been less concerned with trying to steer him down to greens so he can get re-acclimated, and more concerned with propping him up early to keep him from yo-yo-ing. But maybe I'm thinking about this the wrong way? What do you guys think?

 

Most cats bounce when in higher numbers. Personally I would not give mc or hc if readings are over 200. It's just keeping them in the higher numbers. You might want to try a lc at the higher end like 6-8% at shot time for their meal and regular lc there after. Some cats bounce all the way to remission, usually but not always the bounces get smaller and shorter. Again just my two cents.

 

I think it's catch 22. He zooms down and then he goes zooming back up. If you look at some cycles he goes way up at +1 then falls back down closer to PS level by +2. (AM 13th, PM 14th) If you took the +1 test out of the equation, the drop wouldn't be that swift. Not sure why he zooms up that much at +1. Is his pre-shot meal strictly LC?

 

+3 ...242.... feed ?

 

Yes it is always 2-5c food but that's after eating off and on all night ....baby food , 2c food ..... could this be part of the mix ! Keep thinking of a friends fav saying I see as great wisdom "It's not the load you carry but how you carry the load"

 

And his numbers were all over the place several weeks before I can back to the board....

 

What should I feed right now ?? And even next test ??

 

And BTW , y'all are the BEST In the middle of your busy lives you give of yourselves to help Elmo and I ....that is appreciated and powerful ❤️

 

Eating now ...came on his own ...gave LC 5 with smidge MC 14 ...also Thyroid which I forgot at +2,

 

I'd retest him at +5. Give him a little break. Doubt he's going to drop that much and he's got more food on board.

 

Elmo says " thank you , Auntie Linda "

 

Nan, that's why I love and appreciate to the moon and back all your eyes/ insight on Elmo. I honestly am so focused on the care of he and civvie Chris that I don't see what y'all see...gives me great comfort to know you all are giving of yourselves to puzzle this out...this is how we backed into remission the first time ...the Elmo Way

 

Here's a puzzle piece to ponder: could his eating LC 2 and baby food overnight be part of this ? He eats better thru the night than thru the day ...hate to halt it because he is a grazer and it's good for him to eat when hungry ...

 

Let Elmo eat when he feels like it. As long as you know whether his AMPS is food influenced or not, there is no reason to make him fast overnight. I fed Menace during the night and I think most folks leave some food out for kitty to munch on. Better for Elmo overall and it keeps him happy!

 

+ 5....157...leaving him nap...no feeding ...watching ...or should I encourage a little eating ...if it has even a dot of gravy , he is all in !!!! So feed or leave be ?? If feed , just LC or LC plus smidge MC ??? @Nan & Amber @MrWorfMen's Mom ??? Ideas ab next test time ??

 

+6.....eating on his own ..LC 2

 

+2 fed 319
+5 nap 157
+6 fed ???
If he's awake, take a test. See how 4 hours of not eating affects a downward cycle.

 

Just ate at +6 ...quite well for him as a matter of fact ...this cat is his own Gpa Man for sure

 

Did you take a test?

 

@Red & Rover (GA) I think you turned some numbers around ....+2 was 319

 

What did Elmo eat at +6? Low carb or LC with a smidge of MC or just a spot of gravy? And ditto to Kel's ask....did you test him?

 

Nope I didn't ...want me to now ?? Last test was + 5 ...this would be + 6.5 test right now ...brb

 

At +6 he ate LC 2. No gravy

 

127 at + 6.5....when y'all want next test ? I have a phone appointment with homeopathic vet for civvie at 3:00-3:30 ......

 

Thanks for the correction. Edited. Now double checking the GO bus/VIA/bus trip I was booking at the same time I was looking at Elmo.

 

...so you're taking Elmo on a bus trip , Kel ???

 

When do y'all want his next test ? Like I said , will be gone from + 7.0 to + 8 on phone appointment

 

I think he can wait till you are off the phone which I guess would be about +8. Maybe we'll see a nice greenie.

 

Ooooooo......greenie ?!?!? One can dream !! So test at +8.5 ????

 

Taking Elmo down to visit the DS at uni. The DS is great with cats. Not far, but I can't highway drive because of vertigo, so it's a double decker bus, a train that always arrives late, then an express city bus. Going to be staring at my knees the entire time.

Vines for a high green.

 

+8. 82.....now what ??? Ate little LC 2 on his own ...slow his roll with a little MC 14 ? Or let er rip ?? @MrWorfMen's Mom @Nan & Amber @Red & Rover (GA)

 

Hmmm.... it's pretty late in the cycle, around his usual nadir. How about just get a +9 test and see what else he has planned?

 

Life on the edge , eh Auntie Nan ???

 

Ha! Well, he's still in very safe numbers, and he had his LC snack, so.... As long as you get that +9, he can't get in too much trouble, right?

 

....in the meantime, sit back and enjoy this little green respite! Give Elmo a scritch from me, too.

 

I agree. Let's see what he does now.

 

From your lips to Elmo's ears

 

I'm hiding and watching ,

 

+ 9.....78 ....if y'all can discern his nadir you are operating on a way higher pay grade than me !!

 

Will do , Nan And tell him stories of Amber the Wonder Cat , who behaves for her loving momma

 

Beth, he seems to hit his nadir around +7/8 when it is obvious so he's a later nadir kitty at least for now. Some cats are like clockwork and others are all over the map. When Elmo is bouncing, it's not so clear but on the days he's hit blues and greens, it's more apparent. Chances are you'll see him start rising fairly soon.
I am loving seeing those greens. Thank you Elmo!

 

Well, would ya look at that? Elmo's got himself a little green mini-surf going! Yay Elmo!

 

Thank you to you both , and Kel, for encouraging and instructing ..could not do it without you ❤️

 

NOW WHAT ?!?!?! ( Said cooly and calmly ....)

 

Leaving it to Linda and Nan to field that question. But look at those lovely, healing greens.
Celebratory ice cream for Elmo's humans dinner.
Getting late. Off to make dinner. Pasta with tomatoes, spinach, arugula, basil, pancetta, and parmesan. Basically, once around the fridge. No ice cream, sadly.

 

He's still safe.

 

How are his ears today? As Linda said, he's most likely going to start heading up pretty soon, and he's still very safe, but I'm tempted to get the +10 anyway. If his ears are still sore, though, maybe hold off...

 

Thank you , Kel , for your input ..and the ice cream reminder

 

Nope , not sore ....I got 33 gauge lancets and he is a good bleeder ...one reason I stick with the Relion Confirm...takes little to no blood . Down side is have yo order strips .

 

I agree a +10 is probably a good idea if only to see if we can guess what PMPS is going to be!

 

+ 10....83.

 

Oooh...finally some nice green numbers! Good job Elmo!!

 

Thanks , Sue !!! He is feeling so good today ...brings tears to my eyes ❤️

 

I'm so glad to hear that! It's amazing to watch them, when they feel much better. Those nasty ole high numbers don't make anyone feel good...enjoy his 'feel-good' time. He may bounce again - just ride it out. His body will adjust to those low numbers - right now by spiking his BG - but it'll eventually level down - for the most part. It seems like all these kitties tend to spike now and then...when they get too low. Try not to panic...but just test and expect the unexpected...It's possible you'll get to shoot your first green tonight. Are you ready?

 

Oh my gosh Beth and Elmo!! Look at you both go! This is wonderful, Elmo is a green kitty!

 

Looks like somebody broke his bounce in style. Hence the later nadir too. Surfs up Elmo!

Glucose toxicity can develop in as little as five days. And I observed it in my own bouncy girl

 

@Sue and Luci @Sonia & Leo @Wendy&Neko ....Thank you so much for cheering us on ❤️ Have had awesome Aunties guiding us in @MrWorfMen's Mom ( who Elmo goes way back with❤️), @Nan & Amber and @Red & Rover (GA) ..... couldn't do it without them ❤️

 

Oh Elmo .

Beth.

 

ACK!!!!!!!!

 

LIZZIE !!!! Pray us some big ole Texas size prayers , please

 

Will do. Gonna shoot full dose tonight?

 

Opinion : my thread title is getting long( agsin) ....which numbers can I nix and still tell todays " story" ????

 

I shall have to ask Elmo's Guardian Angels , Linda and Nan ...guess we gotta see what PMPS brings

 

I think you can nix the +5 and the +8 or +9 and still leave the story intact.

 

Yup. Did I forget to mention I am not a gambling woman mostly because I always lose?

 

PMPS ...103 ....feed LC ? Shoot 1.5 in 30 minutes ...( my helper is swimming ). @MrWorfMen's Mom @Nan & Amber ???????

 

You've not shot any pre-shot that low before Beth. Do you have lots of strips, lancets and food selection? Chances are good Elmo is going to bounce and these questions are going to be for not but gotta ask in case he has something new up his sleeve!

 

Strips ..check Lancets ...check Food ... 14 MC and 20 HC ..... want to do what best for him ...not for me ...your thots ???

 

I'd shoot full dose and keep the momentum going. Retest at +1 and if he happens to be dropping, feed him then with your LC/MC concoction.

 

If you're ready for it, you could shoot. He's rising and will likely bounce (the only question is when he'll really get going with that). Having the dose on board will be helpful, and also will keep the depot stable.

 

Wow, that is some serious bounce breaking. Good job Elmo!

 

Shot ....let the games begin

 

Coffee pot ready ...food ( looks like the cat food aisle st Wal Mart ) ...bought a ton of lancets the other day ...have my Holy Crap box locked and loaded ( Linda) ...believing I'll need none of it but prepared if I do ....

 

Thanks , Penelope Hope Macka is feeling much better .....sending prayers

 

... and Elmo is probably off in a corner, lounging, maybe cleaning himself a bit, wondering what all the fuss is about (and eyeing the MC and HC food options!).

 

Holy Crap box.... Ha, Ha; Come on Elmo, give momma some steady numbers tonight.

 

Good luck. Fingers crossed.

 

Good job shooting. It's exciting to see Elmo's numbers. I hope he surfs safely tonight.

 

Oh, Nan, the cleaning that goes on after MC gravy is a sight As tho he's saying with each swipe of his tongue " oh that was good , oh that was sooo good" . It's fun to watch

 

Thanks , Carla Please send some of those powerful Carla prayers this way before you hit the hay , please

 

Hugs received , Lizzie

 

Thank you , Suzanne I'll believe for and receive those steady numbers . And Linda has schooled me in supplies for my Holy Crap Box ... her invention