9/16 Elmo AMPS 443, + 3 329, + 6.5 127, +9 78, + 10 83 PMPS 103,+1 123, + 2 130, + 3 155

Sounds like a good plan-- I might even try bumping the carbs up with a bit more MC. The "smidge" has seemed to work well for slowing him down some, but we'd like to get to a place where you aren't testing every hour on these days, too.
 
I'd be careful giving too much MC. You want to slow him down but not stop him in his tracks. :) Got to get him into those healing numbers more too so he gets used to them and stops bouncing so much.
 
Bless his heart , he continues to come to the door going on to the deck where we usually test ...sunlight is bright and as soon as o go and get things ready , here he comes ❤️ When should I test next ??? This fine gauge lancets and good ole Relion Confirm need tiny blood sample ..grateful for that :)
 
MrWorfMen's Mom said:
I'd be careful giving too much MC. You want to slow him down but not stop him in his tracks. :) Got to get him into those healing numbers more too so he gets used to them and stops bouncing so much.
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So, I was thinking about this. I've been more or less assuming that Elmo's bounces are due to drop speed, not where he ends up. The reason I've been assuming this is that I've been assuming that his relapse was caught earlier than most new diabetics-- so he hasn't really had a lot of time to "get used to" high numbers. I could be wrong about this, and I also could be wrong about just how long it takes for a cat's body to decide that reds and blacks are normal. Maybe it happens really fast, especially for a bounce-prone kitty like Elmo (note: my own Amber has never been a bouncer, so I don't have the hands-on experience here).

Anyway, this is all to say, I've been less concerned with trying to steer him down to greens so he can get re-acclimated, and more concerned with propping him up early to keep him from yo-yo-ing. But maybe I'm thinking about this the wrong way? What do you guys think?
 
Most cats bounce when in higher numbers. Personally I would not give mc or hc if readings are over 200. It's just keeping them in the higher numbers. You might want to try a lc at the higher end like 6-8% at shot time for their meal and regular lc there after. Some cats bounce all the way to remission, usually but not always the bounces get smaller and shorter. Again just my two cents.
 
I think it's catch 22. He zooms down and then he goes zooming back up. If you look at some cycles he goes way up at +1 then falls back down closer to PS level by +2. (AM 13th, PM 14th) If you took the +1 test out of the equation, the drop wouldn't be that swift. Not sure why he zooms up that much at +1. Is his pre-shot meal strictly LC?
 
MrWorfMen's Mom said:
I think it's catch 22. He zooms down and then he goes zooming back up. If you look at some cycles he goes way up at +1 then falls back down closer to PS level by +2. (AM 13th, PM 14th) If you took the +1 test out of the equation, the drop wouldn't be that swift. Not sure why he zooms up that much at +1. Is his pre-shot meal strictly LC?
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Yes it is always 2-5c food but that's after eating off and on all night ....baby food , 2c food ..... could this be part of the mix ! Keep thinking of a friends fav saying I see as great wisdom "It's not the load you carry but how you carry the load"
 
And BTW , y'all are the BEST :bighug: In the middle of your busy lives you give of yourselves to help Elmo and I ....that is appreciated and powerful ❤️
 
Eating now ...came on his own ...gave LC 5 with smidge MC 14 ...also Thyroid which I forgot at +2,:rolleyes:
 
Nan & Amber said:
So, I was thinking about this. I've been more or less assuming that Elmo's bounces are due to drop speed, not where he ends up. The reason I've been assuming this is that I've been assuming that his relapse was caught earlier than most new diabetics-- so he hasn't really had a lot of time to "get used to" high numbers. I could be wrong about this, and I also could be wrong about just how long it takes for a cat's body to decide that reds and blacks are normal. Maybe it happens really fast, especially for a bounce-prone kitty like Elmo (note: my own Amber has never been a bouncer, so I don't have the hands-on experience here).

Anyway, this is all to say, I've been less concerned with trying to steer him down to greens so he can get re-acclimated, and more concerned with propping him up early to keep him from yo-yo-ing. But maybe I'm thinking about this the wrong way? What do you guys think?
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Nan, that's why I love and appreciate to the moon and back all your eyes/ insight on Elmo. I honestly am so focused on the care of he and civvie Chris that I don't see what y'all see...gives me great comfort to know you all are giving of yourselves to puzzle this out...this is how we backed into remission the first time ...the Elmo Way :rolleyes:
 
Here's a puzzle piece to ponder: could his eating LC 2 and baby food overnight be part of this ? He eats better thru the night than thru the day ...hate to halt it because he is a grazer and it's good for him to eat when hungry ...
 
Let Elmo eat when he feels like it. As long as you know whether his AMPS is food influenced or not, there is no reason to make him fast overnight. I fed Menace during the night and I think most folks leave some food out for kitty to munch on. Better for Elmo overall and it keeps him happy!
 
MrWorfMen's Mom said:
Let Elmo eat when he feels like it. As long as you know whether his AMPS is food influenced or not, there is no reason to make him fast overnight. I fed Menace during the night and I think most folks leave some food out for kitty to munch on. Better for Elmo overall and it keeps him happy!
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:bighug::bighug::bighug:
 
+ 5....157...leaving him nap...no feeding ...watching ...or should I encourage a little eating ...if it has even a dot of gravy , he is all in !!!! :woot: So feed or leave be ?? If feed , just LC or LC plus smidge MC ??? @Nan & Amber @MrWorfMen's Mom ??? Ideas ab next test time ??
 
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127 at + 6.5....when y'all want next test ? I have a phone appointment with homeopathic vet for civvie at 3:00-3:30 ......
 
When do y'all want his next test ? Like I said , will be gone from + 7.0 to + 8 on phone appointment
 
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