10/5 PHOEBES amps 270 +2 260 Pmps 245

[Phoebes (GA)]

Yesterday
http://www.felinediabetes.com/FDMB/...-on-steroids-shes-diving.184922/#post-2052683

So her appy is off again today. Vet said pred should make her hungry, negative..vet said there is some appy stimulant in cerenia as well, negative...phoebe is not listening.

 

[Mandy & Rex (GA)]

 

[Tracey&Jones (GA)]

The pred and cerenia never really made Jones eat. With the IBD - it is a constant thing to get him to eat his required calorie intake hence the appy stims.


I would actually ask to see if you can get an appy stimulant if she isn't eating.

Appy vines being sent.

 

[Carol & Murphy (GA)]

Cerenia is an anti-emetic (anti-nausea) plus has anti-inflammatory properties I guess it could be considered an appy stimulant by controlling vomiting - but many times, cyproheptadine or mirtazapine need to be added as specific appetite stimulants (in addition to the zolfram for nausea). It is a constant battle, Angela. I no longer have any hesitation to popping zolfran/cyproheptadine at the first sign Murphy's appy is off

 

[Phoebes (GA)]

. I no longer have any hesitation to popping zolfran/cyproheptadine at the first

She gets zofran 2x a day and cerenia 1x at night. I will have to get the stim. Which is preferred?

 

[Phoebes (GA)]

I think vet is hesitant because of all the other meds and she gained another pound back. So she is 15.9 pounds. Up from 12.4. Yay to that.

 

[carfurby (GA)]

I hope you can get her eating consistently. Sending prayers.

 

[Carol & Murphy (GA)]

But especially because she is on insulin, she really needs to eat. Which med is best is debatable - ECID. Many people like mirtazapine but I like cyproheptadine. Mirt has more side effects, I think - and didn't seem to help Murphy. Maybe you can read about both and decide which one. Cyproheptadine is an anti histamine - I have heard some people say that giving their cat zyrtec also increases their appy. Murphy has taken zyrtec for months on end, without helping his appy.

 

[Susan G & Jimmy G]

Yesterday
http://www.felinediabetes.com/FDMB/...-on-steroids-shes-diving.184922/#post-2052683

So her appy is off again today. Vet said peed should make her hungry, negative..vet said there is some appy stimplant in cerenia as well, negative...phoebe is not listening.

CBD oil is having excellent with IBD kitties that need appy stimulant. It’s natural so it’s not as harsh on their bodies as the other prescription drugs. Only a few drops are needed. This is the brand showing good success (olive oil “flavor”). I use it for other things but I’ve also seen a great improvement in his mobility and alertness.

https://www.cwhemp.com/cannabinoid-hemp-oil-cbd-supplement-everyday-plus

 

[Carol & Murphy (GA)]

Susan - I just ordered some a few days ago - how many drops do you give and how often? Only as needed or all the time?

 

[Susan G & Jimmy G]

Susan - I just ordered some a few days ago - how many drops do you give and how often? Only as needed or all the time?

It’s all the time...it’s a cumulative effect.

Starting dose for cats is 0.1 ml 2x day. You can increase 0.1 ml every 5-7 days.

 

[Susan G & Jimmy G]

It’s all the time...it’s a cumulative effect.

Starting dose for cats is 0.1 ml 2x day. You can increase 0.1 ml every 5-7 days.

There is a FB group called Raw feeding for IBD Cats that has a lot of info on it.

 

[Carol & Murphy (GA)]

Thanks Susan (sorry to hijack this thread Angela)

 

[rhiannon and shadow (GA)]

the better one is cyproheptadine...

and while he is writing prescriptions, ask for him to write one for ondansetron too. It's a human prescription. Many vets have not used it yet. The ondansetron dose would be 1-4 mg every 8-12 hours. Ask for the 4 mg pills and start with 1/4 of a pill twice a day .....


You don't want to give just a appy stimulant to a nauseous cat as it can lead to food aversions.

The ondansetron really can make a difference for cats.

 

[Phoebes (GA)]

ask for him to write one for ondansetron too

She's been on zofran since the first diagnosis with pancreantitis. Thank goodness. And also takes cerenia.

 

[Phoebes (GA)]

Oh my Lord, I reread my post this am, and how anyone understood what I was saying is a miracle.

 

[Susan G & Jimmy G]

You don't want to give just a appy stimulant to a nauseous cat as it can lead to food aversion.

Just to clarify for those following re: CBD. It is not an appetite stimulant but rather has an anti nausea effect thus letting them want to eat.

 

[Susan G & Jimmy G]

Oh my Lord, I reread my post this am, and how anyone understood what I was saying is a miracle.

Lol. Sugar dance speak. It’s a language we all can all relate to.

 

[Bobbie And Bubba]

Angela, I hope your baby starts to eat better for you. Maybe the CBD will help.

 

[Phoebes (GA)]

CBD oil is having excellent with IBD kitties that need appy stimulant. It’s natural so it’s not as harsh on their bodies as the other prescription drugs. Only a few drops are needed. This is the brand showing good success (olive oil “flavor”). I use it for other things but I’ve also seen a great improvement in his mobility and alertness.

https://www.cwhemp.com/cannabinoid-hemp-oil-cbd-supplement-everyday-plus

I give her canna does it give the same outcome?

 

[Susan G & Jimmy G]

I give her canna does it give the same outcome?

I know there is a difference about either how and where they extract from the plant but can’t articulate it. If you search in the FB group Laurie explains it. I’ll try to find it and message you.