4/17 Jubalee PMPS 380 192/+2 294/+3 341/+4

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Kadie (Juba's Mom)

Kadie (Juba's Mom)

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Good day everyone,

This morning I tested Juba and her BG was 203 before breakfast and insulin.
I probably did a not good thing and decided to skip the insulin (new dose of 0.5u) in fear she would drop down low like she did yesterday.

Link to yesterday's thread here:
http://www.felinediabetes.com/FDMB/threads/jubalee-amps-203-give-insulin.136369/#post-1406593

It is only one hour since her initial feeding and insulin dose...do you all think it would be ok to give her insulin now, or just wait until her scheduled time tonight.

I won't skip anymore, even if she is about 100 numbers lower than yesterday.
 
Can you change your shooting schedule? If you shoot now, can you shoot 12 hours from now...and 12 hours from then, etc?

And where's she at now?

How long has it been since she had food?

In the future, if you get a pre-shot you're not sure about, stall, DON'T feed and post for help. Make sure your subject line says something like "STALLING...NEED HELP!" so the people looking for problems will see it.

Then in about 20 minutes re-test and see if she's still going up. If she is, then the last shot is most likely wearing off and it's going to be OK to shoot, but hopefully by then you'll also have someone watching over you
 
Juba is 190 +2.5 from breakfast and no insulin...
Is she bouncing? Or do you think the 0.5 from last night still has an effect?
She's about to get her am snack (just a bit of canned tuna)
 
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Chris & China said:
Can you change your shooting schedule? If you shoot now, can you shoot 12 hours from now...and 12 hours from then, etc?

And where's she at now?

How long has it been since she had food?

In the future, if you get a pre-shot you're not sure about, stall, DON'T feed and post for help. Make sure your subject line says something like "STALLING...NEED HELP!" so the people looking for problems will see it.

Then in about 20 minutes re-test and see if she's still going up. If she is, then the last shot is most likely wearing off and it's going to be OK to shoot, but hopefully by then you'll also have someone watching over you
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@Chris & China
The last time she ate was about 2.5 hours ago, her same low carb FF classics mixed with FP.
I will definitely stall and post here with that subject title for future references.
I was quite surprised her BG number went down slightly, even after she ate breakfast!
 
Sorry Kadie, I'm only just catching up this morning after sleeping right through my alarm. If you want to give her the dose and monitor I can stay with you again if you need me to as long as you can adjust her dosing schedule tonight to accommodate the later shot. Or you can skip if you prefer and stick with your normal shooting schedule tonight - I think she's hovering so close to 200 that it's really going to be up to you to decide in the end.

I don't think she is bouncing - maybe the 2 pink numbers you got yesterday were as high as she was going to go after the low. Some cats do that too - Rosa stopped bouncing for more than an hour or two after a while and as Juba's spent a fair amount of time in green numbers she might be getting used to that already. :)

Oh, and her coming down after food is a good thing - it means she's doing some of the work on her own. If she can react to food by having her level come down instead of spiking that might mean she's producing some insulin by herself! :D
 
Wow really?!? That would be so wonderful!!
When do you think a good hour to check her again would be...like in a couple hours?
I also forgot to add yesterday (and to my signature) that Juba is on Denamarin for her liver. The vet suspects some mild liver disease, but believes it was caused by her progressed DM. We skipped it yesterday because of everything concerning her low BG levels.
But I'd like to give it to her today. She gets it between 2 hours after/before eating.
 
Of course - I'm home all day today so I'm happy to be here for you. :)

I would definitely go with getting a +2 after her shot - that's the one we usually like to get every time to see where the cycle's likely to go. Once we have the +2 number, we can decide from there when you should test again as we base a lot of those decisions on where that number is compared to her pre-shot number. :)

I'm not familiar with Denamarin so I'll look it up, but I have to say it doesn't seem to be raising her numbers much if at all!
 
Since you didn't shoot this morning, I'd take a pokey break and just plan on getting a +10 or +11....that gives you time to figure out what to do with the PMPS tonight

Also, since you DID skip this morning, if you want to change your shooting schedule, now's the time to do it.
 
I think Kadie's shooting late Chris - I said I could stick around if she wanted to because she wasn't too happy about skipping completely. I'm not going anywhere today so can keep an eye on her all day if needed.
 
Yeah, not 100% sure on that, but I'm here anyway so if it was to go ahead and shoot, I'll be about. Though I agree, the news that any cat's pancreas might be starting to work is wonderful!!
 
Kadie, the Denamarin looks fine - from what I can find it's milk thistle extract which I know other people here also give their cats. I don't see anything saying it might have an effect on BG levels so I'd go ahead and give it to her. :)
 
Thanks for the responses so far today everyone!
We decided to just skip this morning's dose, test her throughout the day, then give her the 0.5u tonight at her scheduled time.
The time we give her insulin is really working for both our schedules, and since my husband is going back to work next week, he's wanting me to be really comfortable testing and shooting her on my own.
She is due for another test in about an hour, and I'll post the results here!
(And also change the subject line too)
 
Sounds like a plan Kadie though you probably don't need to test much if at all during the day today - I'd take a break and relax a bit more than you were able to yesterday. Just shout out if you have any concerns either with any tests you do get today or later on after her shot tonight. I agree, you need to be comfortable with managing her on your own if you husband's going to be out at work all day, but you'll do fine - we all have confidence in you! :D
 
Just updating everyone on where Juba is tonight!
I took you guy's advice and laid off the ear pokeys for a couple hours and tested her again at +7.5 and her number was 244.
Then I did a PMPS and her BG number was 380, so after she ate her dinner we shot her at 0.5u.
I will update again in 2 hours to see how her numbers are.
Oh, and I updated her spread sheet! ;)
 
That's really not a bad PMPS at all after a skipped shot! :) And that 244 at +7.5 is a great number for her to get at that point. :) I think she'll get right back on track after tonight's shot - though with any luck she'll surf for you and leave the diving for another day!!
 
Wow, I can't believe how sensitive Juba's little body is to this insulin!
Her PMPS was 380, and at +2 she is now 192.
Just to be safe I want to get another test again tonight (at +4) to see how her numbers are doing.
Do you guys think +4 would be ok to test, or should I test again at +3?
Last night it was a gradual decline, (PMPS 353, 307/+2, 213/+5)

I hope this isn't going to turn into yesterday! But, if it does, we have lots of high carb canned food Juba loves, and karo.
Tonight might be a long night.
 
I'd probably retest at +3 to see if she's slowing down some

And go ahead and give her a teaspoon or 2 of her regular low carb food to see if it'll slow her down some
 
Wow, now her BG is 294 at +3.
Should we be worried about this bounce, or do you guys think this is normal/safe?

Should we retest her again in the next hour?
That was crazy!
And I gave her about 1.5 teaspoons of her low carb canned cat food (right after last test of 192/+2)
What the heck is her pancreas doing? lol
 
Wow - we dashed out to get some food and I missed all the excitement!!

I think I would get another test in an hour - this looks to be turning into an odd cycle. I don't think it's anything you need to worry about - she might go a bit higher and bounce as that was a fast drop to 192 but you want to make sure she isn't going to wobble up and down the numbers over the next hour or so. And just to make sure none of the tests was a bad strip too with her number going down and back up so quickly like that.
 
Alrighty, now Juba is 341/+4.

She sitting on my lap right now purring up a storm.
Should we retest again at +5, or wait a couple hours?
Do you guys think she is safe still?
 
I think she's perfectly safe right now. You could probably call it a night if you want to - it looks like she is having a bit of a bounce. It's nothing to worry about - it will be a reaction to the really fast drop she had the first couple of hours. If you want to test her again in a couple of hours that's fine - it never does any harm to grab another test. But you could just get a good night's sleep instead if you want to. :)
 
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