6.4.17: Chase Has High BG Again-208@645 am/195@945 am/117@345 pm

[Sandi & Chase in AZ]

Hello,

It's been a good run, but it looks like Chase will have to be put back on insulin, again. I'm just not sure how to proceed or when to start. I have to wait to get a good amount of testing supplies, again, as I wasn't having to use much so I hadn't bought any in quite a while. Pay day isn't until Friday so I guess I will start him at a drop dose on Friday night. I'm not sure how this is going to work, other than to test him at +1, +2 and +3 Friday night after her 1st dose back on and then do a curve on Saturday and see how he does. The most I can hope for is that he doesn't do the nose dive thing "too" bad, and maybe I can come come home from work to get a plus 3 on weekdays. I'm going to have to talk to my supervisor and see what they will allow. This is going to take a lot of thought.

My next step is to get him in for a dental exam. The last time his teeth were looked at was in January, and other than a lot of plaque build up (he's never had his teeth cleaned) the vet said his teeth looked ok upon physical examination of them. I don't know if he has some bad teeth now and maybe that's why he's come out of remission, or if it's just because he's a diabetic cat and that can always happen. Nothing else has changed, really.

I'm so grateful that the stress of what it was like when he was first started on insulin won't be "quite" so intense. I know how to test, now, and I already have "some" idea of how he reacts to insulin. I know that nothing is guaranteed but I can at least hope.

 

[Nan & Amber (GA)]

Oh noooooo!

Dental exam is a good idea-- it's such a common cause of breaking remission. The other would be a UTI or other minor infection, so it would make sense to get that checked out too.

I think it makes sense to wait until you have testing supplies lined up and a plan in place before starting again. And who knows, maybe this will resolve itself (some cats get transient high BGs when they are experiencing constipation or working on a hairball-- you never know, it could be something that simple!).

 

[Kris & Teasel]

I'm sorry to have to say it, Sandi, but welcome back!

 

[Sandi & Chase in AZ]

Oh noooooo!

Dental exam is a good idea-- it's such a common cause of breaking remission. The other would be a UTI or other minor infection, so it would make sense to get that checked out too.

I think it makes sense to wait until you have testing supplies lined up and a plan in place before starting again. And who knows, maybe this will resolve itself (some cats get transient high BGs when they are experiencing constipation or working on a hairball-- you never know, it could be something that simple!).

I do test his keytones fairly often. Wouldn't that be off if he had a UTI? Yeah... a dental exam is going to happen very soon. Unfortunately, though, a cleaning will not. I don't have $100 to spare, nevemind $600.

 

[Sandi & Chase in AZ]

I'm sorry to have to say it, Sandi, bit welcome back!

Thank you. I'm happy you guys will have me back. I haven't visited for a couple of months. After being on the computer 14 hrs every weekday and a lot every weekend, when Chase went into remission I very rarely even got on the computer. I was SO burned out. No choice, now. I have to do whatever it takes to care for him. Not that I didn't miss you guys. I was just SO BURNED OUT!!!

 

[carfurby (GA)]

I'm sorry Chase is giving you some higher numbers. It is definitely a good idea to take him to the vet and have him checked out. If it is an infection, his numbers may come back down on their own once it is treated and clears up. He may not need to go back on insulin. You are always welcome here.

 

[Nan & Amber (GA)]

I do test his keytones fairly often. Wouldn't that be off if he had a UTI?

Not necessarily-- a UTI can certainly trigger ketones in a diabetic cat, but it's not guaranteed by any means (thank goodness!). Usually with a UTI you'll see signs in the litterbox habits, but not always. If you haven't seen any obvious signs, it's probably not that, but it's best to get him checked out by a vet-- cats are very good at hiding things that are wrong.

I'm glad the ketones tests have been clear!

Yeah... a dental exam is going to happen very soon. Unfortunately, though, a cleaning will not. I don't have $100 to spare, nevemind $600.

I hear you. Dental cleanings/extractions are soooooooo expensive. I mean, I understand why it's so expensive to do with cats (anesthesia, etc.), but, still. It's an unmanageable amount for something that should (in an ideal world) be part of basic vet care.

 

[Bobbie And Bubba]

Sandi, I was just thinking about you and Chase and wondering how you were doing. So sorry that his numbers creeped up and echoing the other, a vet visit is a really good idea. As Nan said, dental inflammation and /or a bad tooth is the number one reason for losing remission, that and pancreatitis but you'd have seen symptoms of that.

The faster you get him seen, the faster he can get any necessary treatment. I am so sorry, I know exactly how you feel........but , if you can get any issues cleared up ASAP the time on the insulin could be very short.

 

[Sandi & Chase in AZ]

Sandi, I was just thinking about you and Chase and wondering how you were doing. So sorry that his numbers creeped up and echoing the other, a vet visit is a really good idea. As Nan said, dental inflammation and /or a bad tooth is the number one reason for losing remission, that and pancreatitis but you'd have seen symptoms of that.

The faster you get him seen, the faster he can get any necessary treatment. I am so sorry, I know exactly how you feel........but , if you can get any issues cleared up ASAP the time on the insulin could be very short.

Hi Bobbie. I forgot that Bubba has been in and out of remission. Do you know what caused his?

 

[Sandi & Chase in AZ]

I'm sorry Chase is giving you some higher numbers. It is definitely a good idea to take him to the vet and have him checked out. If it is an infection, his numbers may come back down on their own once it is treated and clears up. He may not need to go back on insulin. You are always welcome here.

Thank you, Carla.

 

[Sandi & Chase in AZ]

Not necessarily-- a UTI can certainly trigger ketones in a diabetic cat, but it's not guaranteed by any means (thank goodness!). Usually with a UTI you'll see signs in the litterbox habits, but not always. If you haven't seen any obvious signs, it's probably not that, but it's best to get him checked out by a vet-- cats are very good at hiding things that are wrong.

I'm glad the ketones tests have been clear!



I hear you. Dental cleanings/extractions are soooooooo expensive. I mean, I understand why it's so expensive to do with cats (anesthesia, etc.), but, still. It's an unmanageable amount for something that should (in an ideal world) be part of basic vet care.

He has been urinating a little bit more. Not like he used to, but it has increased. I will get him into the vet in the next week, or so. What do they do to test for a UTI? And what does the cost run? I mean... I know that for people they do a urinalysis, but that's much tougher with a cat. Chase definitely won't pee on command.

 

[Gill & George]

Hi Sandi

Sorry about Chase's numbers, you are better prepared this time round, so that's a positive

Obvious question, but have you changed food at all with him??? No chance he's getting into something he shouldn't?

We're here when you need us.

 

[Bobbie And Bubba]

Hi Bobbie. I forgot that Bubba has been in and out of remission. Do you know what caused his?

The first time was a bad tooth and it had not even been one year (shy by a few weeks) since his last dental cleaning.

The second time was a bad GI episode with lots of diarrhea and a little bit of vomiting and not wanting to eat. The vets did not think it was pancreatic but rather something bad he ate outside hunting.

Good luck with the vet appointment and hope you can figure it out ASAP.

Another thing that would play havoc with higher numbers in Bubba was constipation. That could take him right out of being regulated and back into the 200's until the constipation was gone.

 

[Sandi & Chase in AZ]

His food is the same... EXACTLY the same. It's the same brand, the same flavor, but I had gotten lazy with scheduling his feeding times. I'm back at it, though. He's not getting into anything at all. It's just he and I at home, and I know EVERYTHING. LOL.

Thank you for the warm welcome back.

 

[Sandi & Chase in AZ]

The first time was a bad tooth and it had not even been one year (shy by a few weeks) since his last dental cleaning.

The second time was a bad GI episode with lots of diarrhea and a little bit of vomiting and not wanting to eat. The vets did not think it was pancreatic but rather something bad he ate outside hunting.

Good luck with the vet appointment and hope you can figure it out ASAP.

Another thing that would play havoc with higher numbers in Bubba was constipation. That could take him right out of being regulated and back into the 200's until the constipation was gone.

Now that you mention it, Chase has been a little constipated. What can I give him for that?

Has anyone found that feeding a raw diet can make their numbers consistently lower?

 

[Bobbie And Bubba]

I was giving him Miralax 1/4 tsp. twice a day in his food but a couple months ago I switched to a product called Natural Move that I order Pet Alive. They do buy 2 get one free all the time. 1-800-683-1235. The recommended amount gave him soft serve poop so I scaled it back to 1/4 of the capsule twice a day.

Add water to his food to also help with the constipation.

I started raw diet before Bubba was OTJ again, and he was regulated at that time . My feeling on it is that it is helping with his numbers.

 

[Gill & George]

His food is the same... EXACTLY the same. It's the same brand, the same flavor, but I had gotten lazy with scheduling his feeding times. I'm back at it, though. He's not getting into anything at all. It's just he and I at home, and I know EVERYTHING. LOL.

Thank you for the warm welcome back.

Just checking the obvious.

Give the little monster a tickle from his auntie Gill.