? Can't urinate

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  1. Nada

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    He usually urinates evert couple of hours because of his high levels.
    And now he's going everywhere in the house trying to urinate be he can't. I went to a vet today who gave him an IM iron injection.
    What can I do now, we don't have any emergency vet clinics here?
    Now I'm noticing light blood stains in the litter box and still no urine
     
  2. JanetNJ

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    Does anything come out? At all? If it's a blockage that's very serious
     
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    Didn't the vet do a urine culture?
     
  4. Nada

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    Light blood stain. But he was urinating just fine. I don't know what happened
     
  5. JanetNJ

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    Is any urine coming out at all? A blockage in a male cat is extremely serious
     
  6. Nada

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    No. He never had this problem
     
  7. JanetNJ

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    Did the vet and out a culture and ssensitivity test? Did he give him antibiotics?
     
  8. Tanya and Ducia

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    there are several usual suspects to think about in this case.
    How long ago his antibiotics' therapy ended?
     
  9. Nada

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    He's urinating right now but in several streams and he isn't satisfied
     
  10. JanetNJ

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    If no I would plan on being at the vet tomorrow morning when it opens.
     
  11. JanetNJ

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    Oooh ok so it's not blocked. Whew. Sounds like a nasty uti. He will need antibiotics.... Surprised the vet didn't give you clovamax. Did he send out a urine culture?
     
  12. Tanya and Ducia

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    Things ought to be different in Egypt, I assume.
    Stones?
     
  13. Nada

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    Could it be because of the iron injection? Never had this problem and with the amount of water he drinks, he urintaes just fine. What is the reason?
     
  14. JanetNJ

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    Uti.... Diabetic cats are often prone to them because of the excess sugar in their urine.
     
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    I posted a few hours before saying that he has an ongoing infection and he took several antibiotics the last being 2 weeks ago.
    Should I let him drink asand much water as he wants?
     
  16. JanetNJ

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    Call tomorrow and ask for an antibiotic.
     
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    How much does he drinks a day?
    I live in the warm dry area of the US and the 100ml water EXTRA/ day isn't enough per a vet.


    please do - as much as he wants as take a note of it.
     
  18. JanetNJ

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    Definitly have him drink and water down his food....the antibiotic he was on May not be the correct one for whatever bacteria is in his system. Some are better for different things.
     
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    Put extra water bowls throughout the house to encourage him to drink.
     
  20. JanetNJ

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    If still straining to go or it is still bloody Call tomorrow and ask for a different antibiotic.
     
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    Thanks everyone. He still starains and light blood comes out with what little he urinates. I'm taking him tomorrow to the vet
     
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    I am sending healing vines for poor Farafero, please keep us updated.
    That blood in urine might mean a lot of things bad and not too bad - tests are to be performed to pin point the cause but a course of antibiotics is a due, IMHO.
     
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  23. Nada

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    I need some help. His BGL is dropping and now it's 90. If he gets hypo can I give him some dry food?
     
  24. Kris & Teasel

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    It says 190 on your spreadsheet. Which is the correct number - 190 or 90? If it's 190 he'll be OK with no extra food. If it's 90 that's still a good number but you can give a small snack of regular low carb wet food to slow the drop.
     
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    190, That was two hours ago now he's 90.
    I'm out of soft food but I'm feeding him chicken right now. And since dry food is high in carb, I was asking if I could give him some if he gets hypo
     
  26. rhiannon and shadow (GA)

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    several streams implies it could very well be kidney stones/crystals. They can have sharp edges which would cause bleeding as they travel thru the ureter.
    He does have to pee them out. And if it becomes a blockage, maybe even surgery.
     
  27. Kris & Teasel

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    If he's 90 at +6 he likely doesn't need to be propped up with carbs. He at or close to nadir and probably won't go hypo.
     
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    IF you have a low number situation, it would be better to add a tad of honey or syrup to the chicken rather than dry food.

    Dry food does work in a pinch , but it takes longer to boost numbers and then it takes even longer to leave the system. It's just not metabolized the same.
     
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    Taken from my mouth, seriously. :)
    adding a few drops 3 - 4 - 5 like to a chicken meat should bring the BG up quickly up, and then leave.
    Unlike dry kibbles food, honey or any "fast glucose" leaves the system fairly quickly while helping the BG elevation a lot. It does not stick around for long, unlike dry food or a wet food high in carbs content. Those two are said to keep BG elevated for days - in some cats.

    Try to avoid dry food as much as possible, it is really not good at all for cats - healthy or not.
     
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    Thank you! I'm testing again in half an hour. Unfortunately he only ate a small piece, but I'm giving him some water with honey in a syringe.
     
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    After yet another small stream, this came out.
     

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  32. Kris & Teasel

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    This can be a true bladder infection or it can be cystitis without infection. It can be hard to tell them apart without a urine culture to see if any bacteria grow.
     
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    If it's a UTI, it's diagnosed by a urine culture. How about if it's stones, how do we know for sure. Because the vet I'm visiting tomorrow is a new one that is much cheaper. He has absolutely no experience on feline diabetes. I cannot afford to visit the more experts anymore.
     
  34. tiffmaxee

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    I’m glad he’s urinating some. I was concerned there might be a blockage which is an emergency and would have required a trip to the ER. Please call your vet first thing in the morning. He could have a stone, crystals, or a UTI. If the antibiotic was for a urinary infection it was either the wrong antibiotic or he needs another round. Kidney infections can require an antibiotic for as long as amonth. Was a culture and sensitivity run I hope?
     
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    Nope, we never suspected a UTI because he didn't have any symptoms, except for the elevated WBC. I'll get a cupture soon.
    Also he's urinating good again.
    It it normal for a cat to urinate in one long stram then several short ones at the end?
     
  36. tiffmaxee

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    I think he may have a UTI. Otherwise maybe a stone that passed. Why was he given an antibiotic?
     
  37. Nada

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    His gums were bleeding and he had a high WBC, after the infection was gone, it came back a couple of weeks later and I repeated the last course. I'll see how his blood work comes back
     
  38. tiffmaxee

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    :bighug::bighug::bighug:I’d still give your vet a call. Blood tests won’t show what is happening now I would think.
     
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    Any update on Farafero? I hope the vet was able to sort it all out. Please let us know how he is doing, when you have a chance! :bighug:
     
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    Taking him to another vet. That one was useless.
    But he is urinating normally.
    Not eating though and throwing up.
     
  41. JanetNJ

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    Oh no! Poor Kitty
     
  42. Tanya and Ducia

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    :D
    :(

    Fingers crossed the new vet will sort it out.
    Please keep us updated.
     
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  43. Nada

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    I went to the vet and he told me it could have been a stone that passed. And if it happens again, he's ordering a culture. He was already taking too many antibiotics about a month ago. He's doing good right now and his appetite is much better.
    Thanks everyone for you support, I really appreciate it.
     
  44. Steph & Quintus & L & O

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    Glad he’s urinating again. Just wanted to share an anecdote about how serious blockage can be. Many years ago I was alerted to my Bagha (a fighter) literally destroying another neighbourhood male he often fought with. I went to separate them and saw the other cat was not running away from me (I could normally never approach him). I took him straight to the vet. He died while waiting to be seen, of urinary blockage. His bladder was as large as a grapefruit. My vet was really angry: this cat had clearly not been well for a few days and the owners hadn’t reacted (they were clients of his, to make things worse).

    So... if a cat can’t pee, or even is having trouble peeing, take action!

    Glad you were able to see the vet and the blockage passed. Phew!
     
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  45. Steph & Quintus & L & O

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    A suggestion: put Egypt in your signature (I did it for Switzerland) — can serve as a reminder to people that you probably don’t have a 24/7 clinic (or Walmart!) nearby...
     
  46. tiffmaxee

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    Exactly what I thought and glad he passed it in his own although it must have been painful.
     
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  47. Nada

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    You th
    You think I should do the culture anyway?
    And if so, can I collect the urine sample midstream in a urine cup and send it to the lab, or should it be extracted by the vet?
     
  48. tiffmaxee

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    Vet needs to do it For infection check you need a sterile sample.
     
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  49. Steph & Quintus & L & O

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    I think I recall having brought home-caught samples to be checked for infection.
     
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  50. tiffmaxee

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    It's not the best way to check for infection because it's not sterile. If checking for crystals or other reason it's fine. I know my vet would not accept it and why gives antibiotics if not needed. JMHO.
     
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