CRD kidney failure

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  1. paris

    paris New Member

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    Hi, I've come across this page as my cat has been diagnosed with stage 4 CRD, to be honest we are at a loss with what to do. the vet is saying she doesn't really stand a chance but from all what I've read I feel like she might, and they are not even 100% sure it is CRD unless we pay £370 more for a few lab tests. I feel like they are just telling me its the worst because at the moment I dont have the money to pay for everything they are asking. currently she is at the vet on a drip and antibiotics just incase its only a bad infection. the vet ruled out diabetes even though the symptoms are the same as CRD. I have a feeling it could be that instead of CRD or even possibly both.
    I would really appreciate any advice anyone can give you all sound like you have much more information than my vet is telling me.
    we've already paid £350 for blood test, urine test drip and overnight stay, the further £370 is for further tests at the lab to see if it is kidney failure which we thought the original tests were for

    We've had a small update:
    as they have told us all the extra test they still would not be able to tell us if it is acute or chronic so we are going to have her on fluids in hospital until Friday having her blood pressure taken and any meds needed for that and impacting powder and another blood test on Friday to see if theres any improvement in bloods. if no improvement we are then sending a urine sample to the lab for protein in urine test among others.

    we would still appreciate any advice anyone may have. we love our cats so much she is like my child I've had her 10 years its breaking my heart
     
  2. Dyana

    Dyana Well-Known Member

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    Did you get a copy of the blood test results that were done? Maybe if you post them here, someone can help you. What was the glucose on the tests?
    Hang in there, and your kitty too.
     
  3. paris

    paris New Member

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    thank you for replying, to be honest they are very sparse with what they are giving us, we are going there now to get a print out of everything they have tested so far, I will update soon as I'm back
     
  4. Dyana

    Dyana Well-Known Member

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    Take her an unwashed T shirt, pillow case, or her bed or something that smells like home. That will comfort her while she's there.
     
  5. paris

    paris New Member

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    thank you for your help! we have taken her blanket for her to sleep on. she looked a little better so I'm really hoping she will pull through. I have attached the sheet the printed out for us.
     

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  6. tiffmaxee

    tiffmaxee Well-Known Member

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    Here’s a site with all the info on kidney disease. There are lots of things to try before deciding she can’t recover. You can learn to do fluids at home. B vitamins can help bring up her HCT. Did they test for a UTI? I had a cat whose kidney numbers shot up from one that a vet hadn’t tested to see why. The IV drip should bring those numbers down and then you can treat at home. Hoping for a next good report. Meanwhile here’s some reading for you.

    http://www.felinecrf.org/index.htm
     
  7. paris

    paris New Member

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    thank you so much I've been recommended that site a few times now so I've just started reading it. we are really trying anything we can before making any decision to put her to sleep, its absolutely the last thing I want she is my child and its breaking my heart. I will update with any news all my fingers are crossed
     
  8. Sharon14

    Sharon14 Well-Known Member

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    Fingers and paws crossed here too! Please keep us posted.
    I’ll tag @Larry and Kitties maybe he can help you with the lab results.
     
  9. Tanya and Ducia

    Tanya and Ducia Well-Known Member

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    Hi Paris,
    HERE is an amazing video tutorial on how to give SQ fluids at home. Just a few months ago I thought I'd never done it.. I have done it.

    Sorry I cannot see the test results you've posted - my PC does not zoom in enough to make it visible..

    Hang in there.. Remember to take whatever vets are telling you with a grain of salt.. they often overly cautious, not pet parent trusting types...
    :bighug:
     
  10. paris

    paris New Member

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    I will do. thank you so much
     
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  11. paris

    paris New Member

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    thank you so much I will check that out now, I am definitely learning not to completley believe what they are saying I am going to do my absolute best with her no matter what.
     
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  12. Veronica & Babu-chiri

    Veronica & Babu-chiri Well-Known Member

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    Hang in there, keep us posted on how he's doing hopefully he will get well enough for you to take him home and continue his treatment ther, we are sending you lots of :bighug::bighug: and remember both conditions can be managed
     
  13. paris

    paris New Member

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    thank you! we will keep going and give her the best chance possible after all the help I have received from this website we feel much more positive and educated on this condition will keep you updated with any news. thank you again :cat:
     
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  14. Charsan

    Charsan New Member

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    Hi, we are new here and mostly members of the ckd site. From what I have learned there, high wbc can be signs of an infection and will drive up some of the other numbers. If a fructosamine test was done , that is my understanding of determining diabetes and also looking to see the results of the urine test, and whether glucose is in the urine. A culture of the urine test should be done to determine the bacteria. The phosphorous is also really high and will make your cat feel really bad. The other thing I have learned is to make sure your cat is being assist fed if required or is eating while in the hospital.
     
  15. manxcat419

    manxcat419 Well-Known Member

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    Well, she has a probable infection (high WBC - if it's not infection, it's inflammation), probable pancreatitis (high Amylase), CKD (high BUN and creatinine - you don't need any other tests to confirm with a creatinine in the 600s) and possible diabetes - high glucose level, although that could have been due to stress and/or dehydration. Her phosphorus is very high - you will want to start a binder for that. Definitely B12 - she's not technically anemic yet based on her HCT, although that may drop once she's better hydrated, but you do want to start supportive measures as she's low end of normal on that and has a low RBC count. Her kidney values may come down as she gets better hydrated and you get the infection under control, but I would continue to treat as though she has CKD regardless as I'm not at all sure that they'll come all the way back to normal from that high. Sub-q fluids at home will really help - daily is preferable for CKD cats, although a lot of vets only suggest a couple of times a week. On the positive side, her HCT is still in the normal range, her potassium looks fine and her liver values are good. There is definitely hope for improvement in how she's feeling with the right treatment.
     
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  16. JanetNJ

    JanetNJ Well-Known Member

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    She's stage 4 kidney failure. She will need sub q fluids at home daily, b12 methylcobalamin supplements, and a phosphorous binder on her food, as well as a switch to lower phosphorus food. Sorry your kitty isn't doing well.
     
  17. Larry and Kitties

    Larry and Kitties Well-Known Member

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    Per
    http://www.felinecrf.org/vitamin_b.htm
    either cyanocobalamin or methylcobalamin is acceptable. Cyanocobalamin injection is a lot more available and less expensive than injectable methylcobalamin.
     
  18. JanetNJ

    JanetNJ Well-Known Member

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    For injectable yes. Her cat is getting that already so it’s getting the cyanocobalamin already. I just know b12 methylcobalamin worked good when my cat was anemic. I gave him 1000 mcg per day and in 4 weeks he went from 29% hct to 42%.
     
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