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Matt and Goldy

Matt and Goldy

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Hi everyone
I have had a rough time with goldy for the past month.
Has anyone dealt with severe pancreatic with their cat while being diagnosed with
diabetes?
He is at the vet now for the past 2 days and the doctor wants him til Monday, so
its cost me over a grand but what scares me is the future
and has anyone dealt with trying to heal the pancreas while at home?
He was originally on Novo that didn't seem to be working so the doctor he is at now
has switched him to vetsulin.
He is not eating their, but the doctor said he doesn't want to give him food orally
so his pancreas can heal.
I can see this is gonna be a long healing process and could really use some advice as to
whether anyone else went thru this.
Thanks again
Matt
 
Matt and Goldy said:
Hi everyone
I have had a rough time with goldy for the past month.
Has anyone dealt with severe pancreatic with their cat while being diagnosed with
diabetes?
He is at the vet now for the past 2 days and the doctor wants him til Monday, so
its cost me over a grand but what scares me is the future
and has anyone dealt with trying to heal the pancreas while at home?
He was originally on Novo that didn't seem to be working so the doctor he is at now
has switched him to vetsulin.
He is not eating their, but the doctor said he doesn't want to give him food orally
so his pancreas can heal.
I can see this is gonna be a long healing process and could really use some advice as to
whether anyone else went thru this.
Thanks again
Matt
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I don't know much about pancreatitis, but there are several people on the board that do. Hang on, someone will be here soon. I am so sorry that you and your sweet kitty have to go through this. Please know that many cats on the board have lived good long lives with pancreatitis.
 
Matt,

Smokey had pancreatitis in March. Treatment is treating the symptoms. Smokey was never hospitalized, he wasn't to sick though. He remained eating just not much and he was vomiting. He gets cerenia for nausea and Buprenorphine for pain. So far he is still getting them but in lower doses.

I don't know about withholding food so pancreas can heal. I haven't heard that. Food is needed for insulin especially if using Vetsulin. You might want to ask about Lantus, it is more gentle. Vetsulin is a fast short acting insulin.

Prayers for Goldy and hope she feels better quickly.
 
thanks so much for the support and help, yeah its all kinda blown me away he is 11 and was always a real healthy cat...
Just a fyi since Ive been reading about this now, I was surprised to see where they did a study and found that cats after
examined (unf after they passed on from old age) had found 45% of them had issues with their pancreas and pancreatic, which
amazed me. Makes me think that his diabetes has a lot to do with this.
I could tell he was in pain, something has been up for a while, but lately he would sit in postion front paws out front and just
like look ing into space with eyes half open almost in a daze. He has been real finicky for a few months with food, and then
nothing...
There is a test called a Snap fPL now that helps diagnose a bad case of this.
I also see that when its seriously bad, they don't feed to let the pancreas rest I guess. (feed externally, with a drip)
Geez, I can see that finding the right vet, a reasonable one, one that will change insulin, one that wont charge outrageous prices, one
that will really work with you to administer care at home could be the key between life and death here.
Your cats are so lucky to have you as parents....it really helps to just know others care about theirs as much as I do...
really gives me hope, appreciate it!
 
I don't believe with-holding food orally is still current best practice with cats - I could see it for a brief time until anti-nausea/anti-emetic/pain medication takes effect, but I thought the goal was to get the cat eating on it's own again, and providing supportive care until it does (including a feeding tube to the stomach if necessary). I think with-holding food to rest the pancreas is more beneficial in dogs with acute pancreatitis, and even then I thought it was only for 12-24 hours, not 2 days.

Typically, treatment for pancreatitis involves pain medication, fluids, anti-nausea/anti-emetics, appetite stimulant and possibly assisted feeding (syringe or feeding tube) until the cat is well enough to eat on his own. If there's signs of concurrent infection, antibiotics are also used (my Jason had a bad case last December with a concurrent infection).

What are they currently doing for your cat for treatment? Are they giving insulin or not? Monitoring blood sugar? Is this a 24 hour clinic? How was the pancreatitis diagnosed?
 
Thanks Sarah
I think the not feeding was a temp thing just for yesterday, he was throwing up. Went in to see him yesterday, he lookd good cause he was hookd upd to iv and getting fluids. He was diagnosed with the Snap fpL test plus exam. He is being given pain meds and antibiotics. Monitoring glucose and vetsulin doses at the moment. I believe that he had this going on for a few months and the other vet missed what was happening? Who knows but it would explain how all a sudden over a few months his glucose is super high.
Your info def helps and I believe it is a 24 hour monitoring vet. They keep me posted and said he wants him their til monday.
 
Matt,

Sounds like Goldy is feeling a little better and she is home soon.

Diabetes and pancreatitis go hand and hand as both involve the pancreas. With Smokey my vet didn't think he had it. But he was vomiting and was eating so much less I demanded further tests. He sent us to ER for ultrasound and they send he had it. GI panel confirmed it. With meds he is fine as far as p'titis goes.

Due to another vets bungling I lost a non diabetic to pancreatitis and hepatic lipidosis. By the time the vet and or office finally got around to answering my calls which turned out to be a traveling vet who said labs were normal and nothing was wrong she had been 12 days of not eating and vomiting. The regular vet called the following day and said go to ER right away. I didn't know about the ER as I had just moved here from out of state. Boy did I raise h*** with them later. I certainly won't go back to that practice.
 
Glad to hear that Goldy is feeling better! Fingers crossed everything goes well and he comes home on Monday.

Unfortunately, the symptoms are pancreatitis are pretty nonspecific so it can be difficult to diagnose. Both of my cats have chronic pancreatitis and were diagnosed during more acute flares (one by ultrasound, the other by the Spec fPL test and symptoms). Now that I know they have it, I realize they've been having symptoms and/or flares for years and I just didn't know what it was. I have to say though that both of my cats are feeling fantastic now that I know what I'm dealing with and treating their chronic pancreatitis (my most recently diagnosed cat Rain in particular is clearly feeling the best she has in years). Only Rain was still on insulin when her pancreatitis was diagnosed, and diagnosing/treating it was a huge turning point for us in her diabetes treatment.

Make sure to talk to your vet about managing chronic pancreatitis. Both of mine are on regular Cerenia (I'm still experimenting a little with what dosing schedule works best for mine), and I have appetite stimulants, a bag of subQ fluids, and injectable B12 for more acute flare-ups. Neither of mine have flared up to the point of needing pain medication again at this point but if they do, I'll be on the phone with the vet immediately to get that as well. I know some cats do require regular pain medication though.

What's Goldy eating regularly? With Rain, I could never get her to eat wet food and she was an extremely picky eater until her diagnosis. After her treatment she switched to low carb wet and has been doing great on it (I think she's had chronic nausea for years from the pancreatitis that caused her eating issues).
 
Squeaker had frequent pancreatitis. Treatment was: fluid, anti nausea, antacid, pain med if needed, and I found that B12 injections were also very beneficial. We never with held food; that is counter productive. As an aid to entice eating, mix all meat baby food with your cats wet food. Make sure it does not have onion or garlic. If Goldy still won't eat, then you will need to assist feed.
 
Woodsywife said:
Matt,

Sounds like Goldy is feeling a little better and she is home soon.

Diabetes and pancreatitis go hand and hand as both involve the pancreas. With Smokey my vet didn't think he had it. But he was vomiting and was eating so much less I demanded further tests. He sent us to ER for ultrasound and they send he had it. GI panel confirmed it. With meds he is fine as far as p'titis goes.

Due to another vets bungling I lost a non diabetic to pancreatitis and hepatic lipidosis. By the time the vet and or office finally got around to answering my calls which turned out to be a traveling vet who said labs were normal and nothing was wrong she had been 12 days of not eating and vomiting. The regular vet called the following day and said go to ER right away. I didn't know about the ER as I had just moved here from out of state. Boy did I raise h*** with them later. I certainly won't go back to that practice.
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thanks for the help, and sorry you had to go through that with the traveling vet. I used to live south of Houston and there was a traveling vet there also, wondering if it
was the same one, but I guess there are others. But it was the same with him, he wanted you to email him and by the time he would get out, it was just too late. It definitely
is an eye opener as to the care you get, and having a plan ready for action when something does go down. Occasionally I have come across vets that will even work with one
financially to help them out, payment plans etc... There was an awesome vet on the north side of Houston like that. And those ER vets can become super expensive quick..,
We shouldn't have to chose between our babies and money and it becomes a reality when dealing with diseases. Its not gonna happen as long as I can help it. I was thinking that being able to hook up a drip to a cat would be a good thing to learn how to do also. Also thinking about getting pet insurance too, although one would have to get a
healthy exam before they would approve insurance, but there are ways...Just a lot to think about...thanks again.
 
Wulfwin said:
Glad to hear that Goldy is feeling better! Fingers crossed everything goes well and he comes home on Monday.

Unfortunately, the symptoms are pancreatitis are pretty nonspecific so it can be difficult to diagnose. Both of my cats have chronic pancreatitis and were diagnosed during more acute flares (one by ultrasound, the other by the Spec fPL test and symptoms). Now that I know they have it, I realize they've been having symptoms and/or flares for years and I just didn't know what it was. I have to say though that both of my cats are feeling fantastic now that I know what I'm dealing with and treating their chronic pancreatitis (my most recently diagnosed cat Rain in particular is clearly feeling the best she has in years). Only Rain was still on insulin when her pancreatitis was diagnosed, and diagnosing/treating it was a huge turning point for us in her diabetes treatment.

Make sure to talk to your vet about managing chronic pancreatitis. Both of mine are on regular Cerenia (I'm still experimenting a little with what dosing schedule works best for mine), and I have appetite stimulants, a bag of subQ fluids, and injectable B12 for more acute flare-ups. Neither of mine have flared up to the point of needing pain medication again at this point but if they do, I'll be on the phone with the vet immediately to get that as well. I know some cats do require regular pain medication though.

What's Goldy eating regularly? With Rain, I could never get her to eat wet food and she was an extremely picky eater until her diagnosis. After her treatment she switched to low carb wet and has been doing great on it (I think she's had chronic nausea for years from the pancreatitis that caused her eating issues).
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Thanks, I'm so glad yours our doing well. I'm hoping he makes it home, going in there tomm morning to see how he is. I will def ask about managing it. I will check into the Cerenia, and yeah I can see getting the appetite simulants is a good idea. And your bag of subQ fluids, do you basically have that so if you need to hook up a drip you can?
Or is that for more of a under the skin fluid injection? The B12 also a great idea, is that something you can get off the net or is that from a vet the b 12?
As far as goldy and eating, it was really strange up to 6 months ago, he ate everything, then it started about 3 months ago where he was getting finicky, stopped eating dry food completely, then went to certain kinds of wet food, one moment it was only Paul Newman liver, then it was meow mix wet tuna, this past week before he stopped completely was fancy feast beef. You said it, extremely picky eater!
One other symptom that I seemed to see with Goldy is I could occasionally smell like almost rotten food coming from his mouth, thought maybe it was his teeth at one point, but teeth were said to be fine. Now I believe it must be digestive issues with the pancreas and read it somewhere. So anyway that's another thing to look for I guess.
Thanks again for the support
Matt
 
Anitafrnhamer said:
Squeaker had frequent pancreatitis. Treatment was: fluid, anti nausea, antacid, pain med if needed, and I found that B12 injections were also very beneficial. We never with held food; that is counter productive. As an aid to entice eating, mix all meat baby food with your cats wet food. Make sure it does not have onion or garlic. If Goldy still won't eat, then you will need to assist feed.
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thanks for the help, I am hoping it was a temp thing, will no more tomm, and will mix the baby food too , I had already bought some before he went in. And if I need to assist
feed may hit you back for how you managed that-greatly appreciative
 
The fluid is for subcutaneous administration (basically running a pocket of fluids under the skin); they'll be absorbed over time. IV fluids will have an effect quicker, but subQ works great and I don't have to worry about flushing out a catheter or making sure the line doesn't kink etc.

I don't know about the B12 as I get the vast majority of my medications and supplies from the shelter vet clinic I work for since I can get them almost at cost. The label on mine specifically states that it's use is restricted to vets or prescribed by vets, so you might have to get it through your vet.

Definitely look into the Cerenia for Goldy - it sounds like he might have had some chronic nausea going on as well.

Another thing you can look into if Goldy's still having eating issues is a probiotic powder called FortiFlora - a lot of cats really love it, and it smells strongly. I have a lot of luck getting very ill/picky cats to eat with that added to/sprinkled on the food (my personal vet has even started using it as an appetite stimulant after I told him about that use).
 
Let us know how Goldy is today when you find out.

I think Smokey has had problems with it long before I got him. He always had bouts of vomiting and inappropriate box behaviour. His care was very questionable before I got him 2 yrs ago but I've known him for 16 yrs. Just before he started vomiting for me he had horrendous stinky poo and a lot of gas (gas mask worthy). Thought it was the change of food and that's why he was starting to avoid it. It's when he started vomiting immediately after eating I knew it was more serious.

He now gets cerenia 4mg daily and half dose of Buprenorphine once a day (use to be 0.1ml 3x day). He is doing wonderful with regards to p'titis. Now if I could just get his diabetes better.......

Hang in there.
 
Ahhh that's so nice that you took in Smokey 2 years ago at 16. That's a really cool thing to do and take care of him the way you are, I love people that take care of old cats.
They have so much character I really come to appreciate the older ones...

Well saw goldy and he is still not eating, they are force feeding him, he looked ok, miserable, but up and about, but just wont eat. Unfortunately, I got some more bad news, the doctor sent out his throwup fearing he might have cancer, and that came back negative but he said it did come back that he is having heart issues, or an enlarged heart. It also came back positive on the pancreatitis. The doctor really didn't go into the heart issue with me at this point. He said he is not giving up and lets give it a few more days, and we will see. I held him in his cage and talked to him and he started purring....

Soo I will hope and pray for Monday that he is feeling better....
THANKS again
 
Glad to hear no cancer, that's a relief. Pancreatitis can be managed and it does take quite some time. Sounds like Goldy is having an acute episode where as Smokey I think was a flare up. I'm sure they will discuss the heart with you when he's feeling better.

Glad he is purring for you. Prayers and healing vines sent.

BTW- Smokey was my parents cat and was neglected when my mother declined rapidly and my father was denying there were problems.
 
Woodsywife said:
Glad to hear no cancer, that's a relief. Pancreatitis can be managed and it does take quite some time. Sounds like Goldy is having an acute episode where as Smokey I think was a flare up. I'm sure they will discuss the heart with you when he's feeling better.

Glad he is purring for you. Prayers and healing vines sent.

BTW- Smokey was my parents cat and was neglected when my mother declined rapidly and my father was denying there were problems.
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Yeah that can be extremely tough when a loved one is ill, I went through that with my mother, and father/family as well. I'm sorry. With me, I ended up with 4 of my mothers cats which in the end helped me get through it. Geezuz, Life....
Anyway, atleast if Smokey is happy there is one thing good that came out of a bad...
Yeah I appreciate the prayers and thanks again, you've been a big help...truly
Hey if you don't mind me asking, saw are you from PA when I clicked on your pics of cat, just wondering cause I used to live there a while ago....Pottstown, Pa
 
I'm Jefferson Twp. 12 miles north of Scranton. Most know it by Hamlin / Mt Cobb area. Only been here 6 yrs now. Where are you now?
 
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Unfortunately, I got some more bad news, the doctor sent out his throwup fearing he might have cancer, and that came back negative but he said it did come back that he is having heart issues, or an enlarged heart. It also came back positive on the pancreatitis. The doctor really didn't go into the heart issue with me at this point. He said he is not giving up and lets give it a few more days, and we will see. I held him in his cage and talked to him and he started purring....
Soo I will hope and pray for Monday that he is feeling better....
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Ask your vet to do a ProBNP test. It is a blood test but can rule out HCM. The enlarged heart can be caused by any given number of things, including anemia.
 
Anitafrnhamer said:
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Unfortunately, I got some more bad news, the doctor sent out his throwup fearing he might have cancer, and that came back negative but he said it did come back that he is having heart issues, or an enlarged heart. It also came back positive on the pancreatitis. The doctor really didn't go into the heart issue with me at this point. He said he is not giving up and lets give it a few more days, and we will see. I held him in his cage and talked to him and he started purring....
Soo I will hope and pray for Monday that he is feeling better....
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Ask your vet to do a ProBNP test. It is a blood test but can rule out HCM. The enlarged heart can be caused by any given number of things, including anemia.
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I will definitely ask him to do that, the Pro BNP test...yeah its crazy he has always been a seriously healthy cat...
thanks for the advice....yeah I'm just hoping he made it through the weekend...just had a bad feeling come over me a couple hours ago
 
Woodsywife said:
I'm Jefferson Twp. 12 miles north of Scranton. Most know it by Hamlin / Mt Cobb area. Only been here 6 yrs now. Where are you now?
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I'm in Georgia currently, but just moved here a few months ago from near Galveston, Tx....I move with work, to military bases, right now at Robins AFB....
But yeah I know that area for sure, beautiful place, as a matter of fact my friend who still lives in PA, he called me the other night and said, him and his
wife and kids are going to Knobles in a couple weeks if I wanted to go they are camping up there for the week. I wanted to but have to work :(
I'm sure you know of that place right? But yeah always love that drive up through Scranton, Ive hiked the appalacian trail up there a lot
I miss PA.
 
Matt and Goldy said:
I'm in Georgia currently, but just moved here a few months ago from near Galveston, Tx....I move with work, to military bases, right now at Robins AFB....
But yeah I know that area for sure, beautiful place, as a matter of fact my friend who still lives in PA, he called me the other night and said, him and his
wife and kids are going to Knobles in a couple weeks if I wanted to go they are camping up there for the week. I wanted to but have to work :(
I'm sure you know of that place right? But yeah always love that drive up through Scranton, Ive hiked the appalacian trail up there a lot
I miss PA.
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I've heard of it. Never been there though. Work does interfere with life. Any news on Goldy?
 
Hey wanted to let you all know that got a call from Goldy's doctor here around 11am, and he said he got him to eat
10 morsels of food, so is hoping he is gonna make it...
Said he would like to still keep him though....and he is not out of the woods yet but def. promising,
I will know more tomorrow but atleast he is alive and kicking..
thanks to all of you
 
Matt and Goldy said:
Hey wanted to let you all know that got a call from Goldy's doctor here around 11am, and he said he got him to eat
10 morsels of food, so is hoping he is gonna make it...
Said he would like to still keep him though....and he is not out of the woods yet but def. promising,
I will know more tomorrow but atleast he is alive and kicking..
thanks to all of you
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That is such good news. Eat, Goldy, eat. Thanks for the update.
 
Well wanted to give an update to all of you and say thanks again, he still never made it home, (unfortunately) I visited him yesterday and he drank but did not eat from me. Opened 3 cans and he did drink from the can of tuna I gave him. This is just breaking my
heart, he is up, seems relatively healthy, started purring, but just will not eat except that one time 2 days ago?
they were only open til noon today, so I missed going in there...
Along with all the other suggestions,
has anyone ever heard of Aloe Vera Juice for this? came across several that said
it helped. It has to be a certain kind, the inner part, NOT the outer leaves....
atleast that's what they say
 
Are they considering a feeding tube? Hope she starts feeling better very quickly. I don't know about aloe vera. Do a search (link on top) it has been discussed before and I think some have used it.
 
Currently being force fed....
will know more tomorrow when I go in there..
called today and they said he took a few bites
nothing consistent, but he is alive atleast!
this is definitely a long recovery and a hard one
I will try the aloe vera juice and see how it goes
thanks again
 
well its been average 100-400

but I have to tell you and anyone that might read this today,

looking for some advice

I went in there this morning to check on him and take food, tuna etc

they said that he ate a little, however in the last couple days they said they found

blood in his urine so the doctor gave him another antibiotic, which they told me

it seems to have worked, I guess it was now clear...

they had him back on the pancreatic protocol treatment, which meant

fluids by iv again...

she said he chewed out his iv, and so now they had this plastic like horn

around his head, the kind a small dog would have to stop biting itching himself

although on him it was pretty big, however I guess it was working somewhat

But, I have to tell you it seemed like his spirit was dying, he was crying looking

right at me (this cat is smart, one of the real smart ones if you know what I mean) so

he knew it was me...and he looked terrible, both legs have been prodded so many

times, they are completely like black, blood, etc...

His hind legs were like hairless, bloody (not sure if they razor the hair off their for less chance

of infection, but they were like soaked almost seemed like blood, but probably just

urine, diareaha, being poked, etc...

I mean it was bad, and I am just really wondering is this worth it at this point,

if he sits in here and ends up dead, I mean this is gonna be his last little time on earth,

and I just feel like maybe he has had enough?? I mean I want the best for him, but

geeez it would kill me if this is just a way for them to continue making money, I mean hate

to think this but this is what they do...and we all know sometimes its not always the best

care in the world, etc....

they first said, can we keep him a day or two, which turned into a day or more, which turned into

through the weekend, then a day or two after the weekend, now its 4 days since the two days after

the weekend? A week and 3 days...

I mean its just breaking my heart, I pulled over and started balling...

I'm balling now...I just need someone elses opinion if you don't mind

I would greatly appreciate what others would do....
 
I feel your pain..seeing our furkids in a hospital and not knowing what the end result of the treatment will be makes you wonder if it is the right thing to do. :bighug: :bighug: :bighug:

But please do not give up. There are a number of members here that have dealt with sickly kitties at home. If you feel you would be able to do this find out everything that would be needed. People here can advise you on giving SubQ fluids. There have been members on here who have had a feeding tube and done the feedings at home.

Figure out what is needed and what you feel capable of before you lose all hope.

Prayer and hugs sent for you.
 
I agree with the others. If you think you can do it, home might be best for Goldy. They can insert a feeding until he is eating on his own. He might not be eating because of the stress around him. He will be with you in a familiar place. Meds can be given at home. Maybe your regular vet can do any blood work that is needed. Or maybe there is a vet tech who can make visits to your home for regular assessments. It's something worth considering.
 
I would bring him home. Can you give sub-q fluids at home? Usually IV isn't needed more than a few days. He might be refusing food because he is in the hospital nand caged. He might eat for you at home or else you can syringe feed. I did that with my cat for months. Already mentioned is a feeding tube if eating at home doesn't happen.
 
Hey everyone, btw sorry about that double line on the last post, I copied it and it pasted like that? Sorry its so spread out...
Anyway I wanted to let everyone know I went in to the vet today and brought goldy home
the doctor wasn't there and to be honest I hadn't spoke with him directly since last Saturday?
I believe he may have been at a conference, so I kinda have been dealing with his techs all week
in the past few days, since they had put that cone around his neck I saw a real decline, and had to decide here quickly...
I mean I get that he was pulling out his iv, but that thing makes it really hard for a cat already not eating to eat.
Soo I said I needed to talk to him, and she got him on the phone, it went well, he said
he threw everything at him and he just isn't responding much and treating him at home might be a good idea. (thank god)
So that's where I'm at, he sent him home with a bunch of meds, and I got him to agree with the subcutaneous
fluids, so I have that big container and we will do the best I can. I don't have anything bad to say about the
care he got there, I mean truly caring people, even the girl at reception said she would do the same
thing.
I'm so appreciative for all of you that have helped me and I'm sure I'm gonna have some questions soon about
all this care I'm gonna try. I will give it all I got...maybe on the flip side of this I will be able to help
someone else out..lol
Anyway he sat on the front seat right beside me, purring away looking at me on the way home, almost seems like he was
thinking, "I knew he wouldn't forget me"...made it home and he already pee'd and ate a couple bites of tuna...
thanks again for all the prayers...BLESS YOU ALL!!
 
Yes! Eating is good. Offer him a little food every hour. If he eats too much at one time it could make him feel yucky. What medications did they send? What are the doses?
 
Metronidazole 1/2 tab once day
Azithromycin 1.5mls once day
clindamycin 1ml twice a day
also,I posted in another spot about subcutaneous fluids maybe
you could help too, does that have to be refrigerated? and if it is,
can you give it cold under the skin?
 
Don't refrigerate the fluids. In fact many people warm them. Marje made a video on this. I'll give you the link. How much fluids did they save to give? You don't want to give more than 100ml daily.

Metronizadole is very bitter. I'm betting you don't have empty gel capsules to put it in. Do not put it in the food or he will never eat it again. You can probably get gel caps at a compounding pharmacy and at some health food stores. I buy on line but you need some now. You need size 3 or 4. The larger tge number the smaller the capsule. I'll be back with the link on fluids. Do they put them together for you and show you how to administer?
 
I just noticed something VERY important. You don't have anything for nausea. You need cerenia pills from the vet for now. It's given once a day.
 
The metro also comes in liquid suspension if it's easier, just make sure they don't enhance with sugar or sweeteners. Smokey does well with the suspension.

Besides the cerenia for nausea what about Buprenorphine for pain. Did they give you that? For food is Tiki cat available for you? The chicken is just shredded chicken with juice and the nutrients needed. Very low carb (0%). It might help the appetite while providing the nutrients he needs.
 
Matt and Goldy said:
he said it did come back that he is having heart issues, or an enlarged heart.
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I remember there is some kind of caution when giving fluids to a kitty with a heart issue, so I thought I'd repeat above from his previous post.
Sorry, I don't know why or I don't know the appropriate amount of fluids that can be given to a kitty with a heart issue.
Can someone help? @Wendy&Neko @Jill & Alex (GA) @Sienne and Gabby (GA)

ETA: I mean... unless your vet has already given you an instruction on how much and how often. I hope Goldy is feeling better at home!
 
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@mariko is right about fluids. Very important not to give too much. How much did they say to give? If you can get him eating and add water to the food that is better. What is the heart condition? Was an echo done by a cardiologist? It would be good to add this to your signature. I didn't know about the heart.
 
fluids not much at all 50 ml at a time only when needed
wants me to use syringe to get water down too
tiki food, I will look it up is that at Petco?
I'm gonna head there and look for something I can grind up and force feed if necessary
yeah they said he doesn't need pain meds at this point cause he supposedly was getting
better and no throw up meds cause he wasn't vomiting at this point? How do I know if
he is still in pain though? Or how do they know he is not?
I can see this is gonna be rough he has lost ALOT of weight, and I'm glad I got him
out of there because I think he was on the down spiral
His heart came back with issues when they sent out his throw up to be examined
for cancer and confirm pancreatitis, it said somewhat of an enlarged heart.

Anyone have experience force feeding their cat?
 
Woodsywife said:
The metro also comes in liquid suspension if it's easier, just make sure they don't enhance with sugar or sweeteners. Smokey does well with the suspension.
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Have you ever give metronidazole as an unflavored suspension? It tastes terrible and most cats foam at the mouth. I put my cat's meds in a gel cap and use a pill gun to administer the gel cap
 
Larry and Kitties said:
Have you ever give metronidazole as an unflavored suspension? It tastes terrible and most cats foam at the mouth. I put my cat's meds in a gel cap and use a pill gun to administer the gel cap
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Smokey doesn't have a problem with it. It's a small amount I squirt in side of his mouth.
 
There is s yahoo assisted feeding group. Join it. While at Petco get some feeding syringes. To get me started I used Four Paws. The yahoo site will give you places to get more syringes. He needs to eat or could wind up with fatty liver which is very serious. Losing weight quickly can cause it. Pain and/or nausea will make him not want to eat. They didn't even give you a nausea medication which is a must if you want him to eat on his own and keep the food down. Was this all coming from s vet tech since the vet is out of town? That is awful.
 
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