GA Need advice

my cat ate great yesterday and last night starting puking more than once about 6 hours after he ate a tiny bit of food after but has not since. All day.

I gave him cerenia and he has not thrown up but I just have him mirtazapine and he's still not eating.

Internist said give him 1/2 unit of insulin anyway.

He is still not eating.
I am new to this tried to take his reading blood everywhere he got up and ran away.

Do I take him to the er tonight or wait until morning

 

I'd recommend you take Willow to the ER vet tonight, Jamie. They'll be able to test his BG levels, check him for ketones and give him fluids, etc. They'll also be able to manage his insulin better. It's the safest thing to do.

Sending more prayers for Willow and for you.


Mogs
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I agree with Mogs. The not eating/vomiting issue has been going on too long and will cause some serious problems if not dealt with. Hopefully the ER vets can do a thorough check and find out what the best treatment plan is.

Sending prayers and positive energy for you and Willow

 

You've been given very good advice, Jamie. Willy needs immediate attention to prevent other issues from arising. Fingers crossed he gets proper treatment, hydration, etc.

 

We are here

 

Sending prayers for both of you.

 

Crossed fingers you get some good care for Willy.

 

Keep us posted.

 

He is getting fluids and meds.
We are taking him home and see how he does
We talked about th home testing and curves.
I need a new vet.
Very stressful today

His sugars was 549

 

You don't need the doctors permission to home test. You can let them know when you have collected data and can show results.

That's a high sugar, with home testing you can start getting that down now.

 

I wasn't asking permission. I'm having trouble doing it.

 

He still isn't eating.

 

Did the vet talk to you about assist feeding him?
d

 

Where do you live? We may have member near you that may be able to help.

 

What are you having trouble with? We may have suggestions that will help.

 

He's not eating at all so I the testing I can't even think about.
I can't get the blood on the strip right it never works keeps
Saying error.

The vet said do a biopsy and I will not to one.
So I'm pretty much out of options

 

What meter are you using? Some strips have tiny little finger-like projections on each side just above the end of the strip. Either of these need to touch the blood drop so it can "sip" it up into the meter to get a reading.

What sort of biopsy does the vet want to do? One for IBD to make a definitive diagnosis? Has Willy had any other imaging done like X-ray or ultrasound? These are less invasive/expensive than biopsy and might give some indication of what's going on.

What specifically did the ER internist say to you about Willy when you brought him there? Ketones? Hepatic lipidosis? Pancreatitis? Kidney failure? ?????

 

Reion or what we the Walmart brand is

I guess to see if he has cancer although he just had an X-rays and an ultrasound and nothing is showing up thG looks unusual.

I'm not doing it. He has a heart condition. I'm not going change my mind. It's too much already.

They said nothing about that they said what could happen if he doesn't eat. I already know.
They have him fluids and meds and said see if he eats of not other options

She said a feeding tube and at this point I'm not sure I want to do tht either. He is not responding to insulin and this is just a disaster

 

From what I've read on here, some ReliOn meters take strips that work the way I described above and some take strips that need a larger blood drop (the ReliOn Prime?). Which one do you have? Have you tried warming his ear really well before poking? The rice sock we talk about on here is very good for that. A cold ear that hasn't been routinely pricked will not bleed easily.

Not sure what this means.

I totally understand this, Jamie. I'd think the same.

Please clarify your typo.

Give this long and hard thought. It might be just what he needs. Several people on here have had the throat feeding tube inserted and it was the thing that got their kitty on the road to recovery. I have experience with what is called a PEG feeding tube which is inserted through the kitty's side right into the stomach. Sounds horrible but not as awful as you think. My girl was on it for 3 weeks until she was eating well on her own. I had her another 15 years.

You have no data at this point to know what his best dose is or how he reacts to insulin. He hasn't been eating so you haven't been able to dose regularly and you're still struggling with BG testing to see where he is.

 

Maybe these people can help with advice about feeding tubes;
@Jamye and Fred @Justyn

 

prime, I did not have trouble getting blood, I wasted about 15 strips because it keeps saying error when I do it.

His ultrasound had nothing unusual. In fact his last one had inflammation and he had none this time. I have had three ultrasounds in a year.

the vet said see if he eats if not to discuss options, I emailed her this morning and biopsy and feeding tube were the options.

I honestly do not think I can afford it.

 

I'm have no idea why this would be happening. What you could do is start a thread on the main forum with a question mark icon in the title asking for users of the ReliOn Prime to give you troubleshooting advice.

This is often the point we reach where hard decisions have to be made. There is financial help available through Diabetic Cats in Need or Care Credit. Again, if you post with questions, people will be able to give advice.

 

I just used care credit for the last hospitalizion
It was over 2000.

A feeding tube is going to cost just as much

 

Feeding tube would be a good option. Biopsy will not help him eat. Has trying a
different insulin been mentioned?

Where are you located? Someone might be nearby to help you.

 

I cannot afford a feeding tube

I spent over 3000 on the last three weeks

NJ

 

I don't want to sound like I don't care but I spent over 5000 since last year

Nothing is helping

And I can't regulate him because he won't eat so even if I was testing him I can't give him enough of he doesn't eat.

 

On the testing, be sure you aren't getting the drop on top of the strip. The strip needs to barely touch the blood so it sucks it up. There might be some info in Testing and Shooting Tips that will help.

 

I'm so sorry you've reached this point, Jamie. One last try with Diabetic Cats in Need?

 

You sound as if your overwhelmed. I spent over $6000 in 4 months this year. Still paying it off. I think we all know where you are coming from. DCIN is an organization dedicated to helping people with sick diabetic cats. They help with supplies, sometimes hospital bills, getting a member if nearby to come teach you. In some cases help rehome if needed. Contact them. Willy is sick and feeling pretty bad. Don't be afraid to contact them. They help people in these situations. It's what they are dedicated to.

https://m.facebook.com/DiabeticCatsInNeed/?__tn__=C


In NJ, any chance your in the New Brunswick area?

 

With the meter. Once you get the drop of blood. Position the strip so it's under the drop with a slight tilt. Slowly drag the strip straight up and it should 'catch' the drop. I will try to get a video or picture and post.

 

It might help to catch the blood droplet on your fingernail and then release Willy then sip up the sample onto the meter test strip from your fingernail. I can imagine how high your anxiety levels must be at the moment, Jamie, so even this little thing might help make it easier to get a successful test. (I suffer from panic disorder and I know that when stress is high it can make pretty much every little thing seem overwhelming to the point where it starts feeling impossible.)


Mogs
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It's not the best video and I had to improvise. But you should get the idea.

A lot of people complain the Prime meter shows a lot of errors. It requires a good size drop of blood, so you might not be getting enough to read. The Relion Confirm and Micro are more reliable and take smaller blood drop. You might consider getting one of them.

 

It's not looking good for Willy he was at the vet
It's his heart

 

(((Jamie and Willy)))

Sending prayers for you both.




Mogs
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He is backed up his heart looks a little floppy his lungs have fluid he is dehydrated
It's just a mess

 

Sending prayers and healing energy and lots of

 

I'm so sorry, Jamie. I know how much you love your boy and have worried about him.

 

Constipated? If yes, that may be why he is off his food.

Sending many, many prayers your way.


Mogs
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Thinking of you and Willow, Jamie. All here know how very much you love him and how worried you are.

Prayers continue ...




Mogs
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We understand. Sending prayers for both of you.

 

He's in the ER now

I just think at this point I need to think of him
He's been through enough.

Thanks for all the good thoughts

 

My heart goes out to you, Jamie ...

Keeping you and Willow in my thoughts and prayers.




Mogs
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(((JAMIE)) Sending prayers for you and Willow.

 

You & Willow are in my thoughts

 

Keeping Willow and you in my thoughts. I hope he has very good doctors, and wish him well.

 

Sending more prayers for you both.




Mogs
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Sending you strength -- Your heart will help guide you to the right decision.



Sandi&Whisper.

 

Please call DCIN. They can help.

 

Jamie I am thinking of you and Willow, hoping he gets through this and you can get another vet and financial help. There are so many good wishes and healing thoughts going to you and Willow xx

 

He's having seizures. We are putting him to sleep

 

This is the hardest decision you can make for a beloved pet, Jamie. It's also the kindest, most precious gift you can give them when they're suffering. My heart goes out to you. You did so much for Willy and now you're releasing him from pain and illness.

 

Sending purrs and prayers for a peaceful crossing

 

Later on, when/if you feel able, please tell us more about Willy and your life together on this forum:
http://www.felinediabetes.com/FDMB/forums/grief-support.16/
Sharing the good times with us might help you in your grieving.

 

My heart is breaking for you Jamie. The greatest act of love is also the hardest. Prayers and strength sent for you!!

 

My heart aches for you too, Jamie. You have given Willow a life filled with love and the very best of care - he could not have wished for a better Forever Person than you.

Prayers and tears ...




Mogs
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I'm so very sorry. I feel your pain. You won't feel like this now, but you are doing the best thing for your beautiful boy. He knows you love him, and always will.
Wrapping you in tight hugs...

Diana

 

((((((Jamie and Willow)))))) you're such a good and caring cat mum and you've taken so much trouble to do everything right for gorgeous Willow. My little civvie with heart problems had a massive seizure and never regained consciousness. I'm thinking of you, I think you and Willow have touched so many people's hearts in such a short space of time. If you'd like to add me on facebook and keep in touch, feel free.

 

I am so very sorry to read this. Please know that you and Willow will continue to be in my thoughts. (((HUGS))) Please do take the suggestion from above to visit here for support. Light & love!!!

 

Jamie, I am so sorry that it's Willow's time to go to the Bridge. You are a wonderful Mamabean to him, and now are giving him the hardest act of love ever. Hold your treasured memories of him close in your heart, and know that, one day, you will meet again and be reunited. Prayers for you, and for a peaceful crossing for Willow.

 

It is so hard! I'm really really sorry for your stress and suffering. Willow will have peace now and you need to take care of yourself.
Sending prayers.
Marlena

 

My deepest condolences. I wish the last few days had been simpler for all of you.

 

I'm so very sorry

 

I'm so sorry Jamie

 

I'm so sorry to hear that it was Willow's time to cross the bridge. You're in my thoughts

 

I'm so very sorry, Jamie.

 

I'm very sorry to hear about Willie. You are in my thoughts and prayers. I believe he knows you were setting him free and he is at peace now. Please take some time and take care of yourself Jamie. Willow will always be in your heart where you can cherish those memories forever.
He will be your angel watching over his mama until you can meet again.

 

I am so sorry, ((((((Jamie)))))) My heart goes out to you

 

Thank you everyone. Today has been an awful day.
This is going take me a while to get over.

Thanks for all the support and help these last couple of weeks.

 

I am so sorry for you and Willie.

 

I am so, so sad for you, Jamie; you fought so hard to help your beloved Willow. My heart truly aches for you because it's so clear how very, very deeply you love him.

We are still here for you. If you want to talk or just need a bit of comfort and support from people who really understand your loss just post.

For Willow ...



For you ...




Mogs
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I am so sorry.

 

So sorry for your loss. Willy is a beautiful boy to leave so young.

 

(((((Jamie))))))
Prayers for your grieving heart. He knows you loved him and the final gift is the right one even tho' it hurts so much.
Fly Free Willow.

 

Reading this whole thread made me cry. I am heartbroken for you Jaime. I am so very sorry you lost your kitty. Sending you lots of . Hang in there.

 

How are you doing Jamie?

 

still thinking of you. May you have a calm spirit

 

Jamie, sending healing vines to you.
Thinking of you.
Take care,
Marlena

 

You did the very best that you could. I don't think anyone could have done more. What a great parent you were to Willow.

Fly free sweet kitty. Wait for your Mommy at the Rainbow Bridge.

 

I just wanted to thank you all for the thoughts. I haven't been on here because I'm still really upset about all of this and have conflicting feelings about everything. I miss Willy so much

 

(((Jamie)))

It is so hard ...

Keeping you in my thoughts and prayers.




Mogs
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Jamie....all our hearts are broken with yours. May all the thots and prayers going out on your behalf Comfort your mind and heart.

 

I know how hard this is, Jamie. Sending healing thoughts your way ...

 

Jamie, I think your sweet Willow is GA to my Angel here. I think of you often and wonder how you are doing x

 

I am so very sorry ....fly free little one and land gently....

 

Jamie, I'm so sorry I didn't see this until now. I would've followed up regarding the feeding tube. Fred had an e tube in his neck for 5 days in Oct and it was really hard. We hate to see our babies in pain. Fred is doing better, though. I'm so sorry you lost your Willow ... You did everything you could and y'all were blessed to have each other! Our companies touch our hearts and the memories are irreplaceable!
Dear Willow, go to the catnip garden. You'll find my beloved Persian, Shelby, there. Fly free sweet angel.
(Hugs)
Jamye and Fred