NELLLIO pills Vs diabetes

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  1. Ronnon

    Ronnon Member

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    Our cat also was diagnosed with a cardiac auscultation a heart murmur, it happens in the end of 2013, the vet clinic ( the same told me that I had to put one syringe of 2-3 units :nailbiting:) gave me some pills called NELLIO, these pills are made for kidney and cardiac disease. 1/4 of pill everyday.

    Due to Diabetes I stopped inmediately of included the pill in the daily feed because I don´t trust in the profits of them and with more reason currently that my cat has diabetes.
    Do you know these pills? The constitution of them is BENAZEPRIL.
    Will it be bad for the cat? Should we keep giving them? Is there any risk fr diabete?
    We are in a small village, with little vet access, none except this one. We plan some further checkup but for now, we stooped giving these pills.

    Thanks, regards.
     
  2. Harley Baby & Michele

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    Good morning! I understand your concerns for Ronnon and it is terrific you are educating yourself about his care. I am not a doctor so I won't tell you if you should stop the Benazapril or not. You will need to have a more in depth conversation with your Vet regarding your concerns. As a start, I would ask the Vet office to provide you with the visit notes from the date you were prescribed the Benazepril in 2013. There should be information about symptoms, tests and why that drug was given. If it were me, I would want to know why this drug? Why does this murmur need treatment? What happens if we don't treat it? Is there something else occurring that you haven't explained to me? Is this drug being given to prevent future heart or kidney damage?

    Cardiac Auscultation is simply listening to the heart with a stethoscope; this is a normal part of an exam. Yes, a heart murmur is found in this manner. In humans, murmurs are rated as to severity but rarely treated unless causing problems. A cardiac doctor once told me almost everyone has a murmur to some degree but it doesn't necessarily need treatment unless causing problems. But as in every cat is different, so is every human!

    Below is some information on Benazapril.

    https://www.1800petmeds.com/Benazepril-prod11196.html

    https://www.rxlist.com/drug-interactions/benazepril-oral-and-insulin-glargine-subq-interaction.htm

    If I remember correctly you are using Lantus?? https://online.epocrates.com/u/1042398/Lantus/Drug Interactions

    Hope this gets you started! Need to run and earn some money to feed the cats!!:smuggrin:
     
  3. Veronica & Babu-chiri

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    It is hard to give any suggestions regarding the Benazapril without really knowing what his heart problem is, a murmur can be a sympthom of a heart problem but not all heart problems are treated the same and if he has high blood pressure stopping the medication can be dangerous.

    Heart medications will neither benefit nor harm his diabetes and is something that if he needs you should keep giving it or at least see with a specialist before discontinuing it

    Was an ecocardiogram and an electrocardiogram done when the murmur was detected does the vet check his blood pressure ?
     
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  4. Ronnon

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    Thank you very much @Harley Baby & Michele for all replies, you support me a lot.
     
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  5. Ronnon

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    Just a cardiac auscultation in the last vet clínic and I think it was because another vet 8 years ago told me about the heart murmur
     
  6. Veronica & Babu-chiri

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    I would suggest that at least the vet measures his blood pressure before giving or suspending any blood pressure medicine, it's a very simple test they place a brazalete either in his arm or on the base of his tail and measure the blood pressure

    And if the murmur continues I think is best to consider an ecocardiogram to determine his problem and give him the appropriate medicine
     
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