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Discussion in 'Feline Health - (Welcome & Main Forum)' started by Bron and Sheba (GA), Jul 11, 2019.

  1. Bron and Sheba (GA)

    Bron and Sheba (GA) Well-Known Member

    Feb 21, 2015

    NB: Blood glucose numbers referenced in this
    document are for meters calibrated for humans.

    We all understand how stressful it is in the beginning of your FD journey with your kitty, and we are so pleased you have researched FD and found us! This is a wonderful community where everyone helps each other and cares about everyone’s kitties. There is a lot to learn in the beginning and we want to be able to help you in any way we can.

    Here are a few areas where things are sometimes falling through the cracks, and this can make it harder for the people who are wanting to help you. This is in no way a criticism, but a reminder of things you can do that will help your kitty.

    Make sure you have your Hypo toolbox ready for use when you start insulin.
    • Do you have plenty of medium carb (10-17% carb) and high carb (18% carb and over) canned foods in your cupboard, that are marked with the carb content on the top of the lid for easy identification?
    • Do you have honey or karo in your toolbox?
    • Do you have an extra 50 test strips in reserve in your toolbox?
    • Do you have the address and phone number of the nearest ER in your toolbox?
    • Do you have the two yellow stickies on how to treat hypos and what to put in your toolbox that are at the top of the FAQ page printed off and stuck on your fridge or put in your toolbox? Here are the links:
    Keep your spreadsheet up to date. Helpers will always look at your spreadsheet before offering advice. If it is not up to date it is hard to offer suggestion or give specific dosing advise.

    Make a spreadsheet for your kitty following the instructions linked below
    If you are moving from a different diabetes group (online or Facebook) and have a Spreadsheet from that group, you will also need to use the link below to make the spreadsheet that we use in this forum. Members are available who can help you transfer all your data from another spreadsheet type to our spreadsheet.

    Always test the BG levels again an hour later if you get a low number. If you are testing during the cycle and find a number that is a lot lower than your previous test, always test again an hour later to check that the BG level has not dropped further. Never assume that kitty will be fine. If you are unsure, post and ask for help.

    Always stay in touch with the member helping you when you have asked for help because your kitty has dropped low and you need help to raise the BG Level.
    • If your helper asks you to give your kitty some high carb food and test again in 20 minutes, for example, please respond with either a ‘like’ on the post or respond with “high carb food given, will test in 20 mins”. That way the helper knows you have seen the post and have given the food.
    • Your helper will be waiting for your next post so always get back to her/him. Don’t disappear! Do not just think that your kitty is fine now and not respond. Your helper will not know what is happening and will be waiting for an update
    Post updated BG levels in the subject line as well as in the thread if you are being helped with raising kitty's BG level. Most helpers are also helping others but will keep an eye out for your next BG level by looking at the subject line instead of having to open the thread all the time. To edit the subject line, find the thread tools which is on the top right of the first post. Choose ‘edit thread’ from the drop down menu, change the subject line, then save changes.

    NEVER give insulin when your kitty’s BG level is under 50 mg/dL (2.8 mmol/L).
    • If you are using Lantus, Levemir or Basaglar
      • and following the TR protocol, you would only give the insulin if the BG level was over 50 mg/dL and you had a lot of data and had worked your way down to that number from 150 mg/dL with an experienced person helping you.
      • For SLGS method followers, you would initially only shoot numbers over 90 mg/dL after collecting data and working your way down from 150.
    • Other insulins mostly use 200 mg/dL (11 mmol/L) as the no shoot number for newbies, but later this can be lowered after data is collected and experience gained.
    Read the yellow stickies at the top of the Insulin Specific Group pages you are using to familiarize yourself with the insulin you use.

    Dealing with a lower than usual preshot number: Initially we encourage using a ‘no shoot number’ of 200 mg/dL (11 mmol/L) on the Main Health page and
    • For newbies in the Lantus, Basaglar, and Levemir Group, if you get a blood glucose of 150mg/dL (8.3 mmol/L) or below, while you are gathering data and experience, stall without feeding, post and ask for assistance. This applies to both the Tight Regulation and the Start Low Go Slow methods.
    • For people in the other Insulin Specific Groups, 200 mg/dL (11 mmol/L) is used as the ‘no shoot number’ while you gather data and experience.
    If you are unsure what to do, stall, don’t feed and test again in 20 minutes to see if the BG level is rising. Also post and ask for help. Write something like… “BG level xxx, stalling, please HELP” to alert people to your dilemma.

    Always test before every insulin shot. Never just assume your kitty will be high enough to shoot. Finding your kitty is dangerously low a couple of hours after the shot is given is not only terrifying for you, but is dangerous for your kitty and is something that can be avoided. If you are still having trouble testing, post and ask for more help.

    Using the 911 prefix. The 911 prefix in the subject line should only be used for emergencies such as symptomatic hypos, very low numbers (below 30 on a human meter), and /or a very sick cat potentially needing ER care.

    Complete your profile. This is where you can put your location if you wish. Please do not put in personal information such as work schedules as it is a security risk.

    Make sure your signature is up to date.
    • On the left, under Settings, Click on Signature. This is where you will put information that helps us give you feedback.
    • There is a limit of two lines which may include two links; you may separate pieces with commas, dashes, | etc. This is where you paste the link for your spreadsheet, once it is set up.
    • Add any other text, such as
      • Caregiver & kitty's name (optional)
      • DX: date
      • Name of insulin
      • Name of your meter
      • Diet: "LC wet" or "dry food" or "combo"
      • Dosing: TR or SLGS or Custom (if applicable)
      • DKA or other recent health issue (if applicable)
      • Acro, IAA, or Cushings (if applicable)
      • Spreadsheet link. Please put the signature link on the bottom line of your signature information, on its own, so it is easy to find.
      • Please do not put any information about your location in the signature for security reasons. If you wish to add your country location, please add it to your profile.
    Be sure to click the 'Save Changes' button at the bottom. If you need help urgently it is important we know these things at a glance. We don’t want to waste valuable time finding out information.

    Thank you!

    * Please ask any questions you may have in the appropriate forum. *
    Last edited: Jan 1, 2020
    Reason for edit: added meter info. Added spreadsheet info. Added 911 info.
  2. Idjit's mom

    Idjit's mom Well-Known Member

    Apr 3, 2018
  3. Veronica & Babu-chiri

    Veronica & Babu-chiri Well-Known Member

    Aug 5, 2016
    Very good summary!!

    This should be a sticky
  4. Jerry dutchboy

    Jerry dutchboy Well-Known Member

    Mar 27, 2019
    This should be a sticky. Excellent.
  5. MrWorfMen's Mom

    MrWorfMen's Mom Well-Known Member

    Feb 18, 2015
    Love it! Excellent idea and execution! Thanks for putting this together Bron! :D
  6. Diane Tyler's Mom

    Diane Tyler's Mom Well-Known Member

    Sep 21, 2018
  7. Tracey&Jones (GA)

    Tracey&Jones (GA) Well-Known Member

    Dec 12, 2016
  8. Keskat&Rocket

    Keskat&Rocket Member

    Feb 4, 2019
    This is great, thanks :) Maybe I would add something about the difference in threshold numbers when using a human vs. pet meter, or say that the numbers given are for a human meter. (i'm new to this and still using AlphaTrak, but looking to switch soon.)
  9. AmandaE

    AmandaE Well-Known Member

    Mar 18, 2019
    This is really great Bron! Thanks for putting it together. So well thought out :)
  10. Jill & Alex (GA)

    Jill & Alex (GA) Senior Member Moderator

    Dec 28, 2009
  11. Elizabeth and Bertie

    Elizabeth and Bertie Well-Known Member

    Sep 6, 2010
    This is fab, Bron! Thanks so much for doing this! And you've clearly put a lot of thought and love into this. :kiss:
    I agree, it would be great to just add that the numbers quoted are for human meters, and pet meters will typically read higher. :cat:

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  12. TSP

    TSP Member

    May 30, 2019
    I've taken the info from here & created a little "T Med/Supply Station" which makes it easier for me but also for my hubby & pet sitters. I printed off the Hypo Info & its in the Emergency Kit along with food, treats, honey, glucose, syringes (feeding), rubber gloves (if God forbid need to do the honey in place neither T nor us want to go :eek:!) etc. AND it also contains my FRIOs & MedAngel in case of Power Loss. The whole thing is lightweight & can be picked up & taken wherever if we need to travel with him or evacuate. Thought I would share because its a lot of stuff to make sure you have at all times :cool:

    Attached Files:

  13. Armish & Roo

    Armish & Roo Member

    Apr 28, 2019
    This is awesome, thanks for the inspiration! I'm definitely going to start something along these lines because my supplies are spread out everywhere o_O
  14. TSP

    TSP Member

    May 30, 2019
    You are welcome :). My supplies were everywhere as well & I wished someone handed me this as a "Starter Kit" already put together. It should come with the diagnosis :cool:..."your cat has diabetes. Here is your starter kit." along with a walk through :p. I'm also working on a small binder with tabs to put various info in as well. My "Feline Diabetes 101" as a reference for me, hubby, pet sitter. Sometimes its nice just to whip open a binder & be able to access info quickly vs. getting online. I guess I'm old school :bookworm::rolleyes:
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  15. Peacock

    Peacock Member

    Mar 4, 2019
    Great post Bron

    After 3 months of testing I got a bit more organized with my setup. For testing supplies, I am now using a cute sewing box with a lid, a handle, and a removable tray. The tray has seperate little sections for lancets, cotton pads, glucometer and strips. In the bigger compartment below I keep extras, plus ointment, testing solutions, etc. that I don't need every time. I like that I can close it up and my living room no longer looks like a medical lab. In the kitchen I have a plastic bin with the hypo kit (which is better stocked after a scare), plus a utensil cannister full of syringes. As a bonus to getting organized, if we had to evacuate, I could have Peacock's stuff ready to go in a minute or two. Then I would just have to get her, which could take a bit longer!
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  16. TSP

    TSP Member

    May 30, 2019
    This would be a good Pinterest Page. Different ways to organize supplies :D! My little drawers stay in my kitchen cabinet unless I have a pet sitter & then I just put it out.

    Kitty Round Up with evacuation :woot:! Praying never have to do it!!
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  17. Sam & Oscar

    Sam & Oscar Member

    Jul 8, 2019
    I was getting ready to post some general questions and just happened to click this first - it answered all of them! Thank you Bron!

    What would you consider a "no-shoot number" (lantus newbie) number using the pet meter?
  18. Perry & Jenn

    Perry & Jenn Member

    Jun 5, 2019
    Thanks for making this a sticky!
  19. AmandaE

    AmandaE Well-Known Member

    Mar 18, 2019
  20. Lisa and Witn (GA)

    Lisa and Witn (GA) Well-Known Member

    Dec 28, 2009
  21. Jerry dutchboy

    Jerry dutchboy Well-Known Member

    Mar 27, 2019
  22. Bellasmom

    Bellasmom Well-Known Member

    Feb 12, 2018
    I like this
  23. Jerry dutchboy

    Jerry dutchboy Well-Known Member

    Mar 27, 2019
    Wouldn't it be an idea to add this to the top of the introduction page?
  24. Bellasmom

    Bellasmom Well-Known Member

    Feb 12, 2018
  25. PPCW

    PPCW Member

    May 26, 2017
  26. PPCW

    PPCW Member

    May 26, 2017
    B U M P
  27. PPCW

    PPCW Member

    May 26, 2017
  28. tiffmaxee

    tiffmaxee Well-Known Member

    Nov 15, 2013
    Excellent Bron!
  29. Ti-Mousse

    Ti-Mousse Well-Known Member

    Dec 2, 2018
  30. CandyH & Catcat

    CandyH & Catcat Well-Known Member

    Apr 23, 2019
  31. Noah & me (GA)

    Noah & me (GA) Well-Known Member

    Dec 3, 2016
    your Go-Bag and more
    Your cat is sick, you're on the way to emergency. Don't take anything for granted, what can go wrong will go wrong. I once had to stop for windshield washer fluid, it was either that or kill all three of us on a busy highway. Sounds idiotic but this is what can happen.
    >Clinics may not use your type of meter. Take the meter, strips, syringes and your extra battery. My meter has a memory function that goes back as far as Nigel.
    >I've actually seen clinics that have run out of insulin and my regular clinic knows nothing of Prozinc. Grab a travel mug, some ice cubes and go!
    >Copies of any and all printed diagnosis no matter how trivial.
    >Don't take crap from a medical student. More than just your baby you're in a hospital and it's your right to demand a more senior staff member.
    >To my ever lasting regret I once told an admitting doctor that Andrew was a nervous cat. She rolled her eyes and didn't write that down. At 3:00AM Andrew was yanked from his cage and given a blood pressure test. He freaked, had a cardiac event and died. When you have something important to say make damn sure they take note of it!
    >Be honest about your cat's condition. I've seen a woman too embarrassed to admit her cat may have swallowed a watch battery. Andrew once swallowed a staple, we figured it fell from the insulation into his litter box. He must have licked his paws and somehow swallowed the staple.
    >Your health. Our nearest clinic has extra hard plastic chairs, no quiet room, the reading material is "Payment Plans" and they're miles from any fast food location. You never want to be tired, dehydrated and cranky when a decision has to be made. I'm OCD, I fidget and I'm prone to migraines so I prepare for all this.
    >We keep maps and written instructions to our two nearest clinics. If Cynthia has to go alone it means a taxi, bring cash. Clinics sometimes move and the internet is the last place to know. A charged cell phone and phone numbers can save your cat's life.
    >Preserve your sanity. Go for a walk when you're not needed, bring a book. And....Xanax
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  32. Bron and Sheba (GA)

    Bron and Sheba (GA) Well-Known Member

    Feb 21, 2015
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    Feb 21, 2015
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    Marje and Gracie Senior Member Moderator

    May 30, 2010
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    Wendy&Neko Senior Member Moderator

    Feb 28, 2012
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    Feb 21, 2015

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