Shortcut Shopping List - 8% or less updated

all values are from Dr. Pierson's updated list

carbs in % . . last number is phosphorus ( FKD cats need under 250 phosphorus)
4% - fancy feast CLASSICS chicken feast- 546 - beware of those that are not classics ...
4%- fancy feast chopped grilled feast pate -569
2%- fancy feast cod, sole & shrimp feast pate – 787
4%- fancy feast Ocean Whitefish and tuna pate 823
1% -fancy feast Savory Salmon feast pate – 369
5% -fancy feast Tender beef feast pate -637
5% -fancy feast Tender beef and chicken feast pate -502
5% - fancy feast Tender beef and liver feast pate – 525
4% -fancy feast Tender liver and chicken feast pate -598
3% - fancy feast Turkey & giblets feast pate – 355
5% -fancy feast salmon and shrimp feast -550
4% -fancy feast kitten tender turkey feast -474
5% - fancy feast kitten tender ocean whitefish feast - 689
5% -fancy feast chunky chicken feast -637
7% - fancy feast chunky turkey feast -624
7% -fancy feast chunky chopped grill feast - 454
8% - fancy feast Flaked chicken and tuna feast - 434
0% - fancy feast Flaked fish and shrimp feast - 701
8% - fancy feast Flaked Salmon and whitefish feast - 458
7% - fancy feast Flaked Trout feast-395

8% - Friskies flaked with tuna and egg 415
9% - Friskies Poultry platter – 438
5% - Friskies Special diet Beef and Liver entree 241
5% - Friskies Special diet Turkey and Giblets dinner pate 189
5% - Friskies Special diet Beef and Chicken Entree pate 242
4% - Friskies Special Diet Whitefish dinner 351
7% - Friskies Special Diet with Salmon 228
7% - Friskies Salmon dinner classic pate 499
8% - Friskies Turkey and Giblets dinner 338
8% - Friskies Supreme Supper 416
6% - Friskies Mariner's Catch 393

3% Weruva Paw Lickin' chicken 196
9% Weruva Green Eggs & chicken 230
4% Weruva On the Cat Wok 163
5% Weruva Steak Frites 118
7% Weruva MidEast Feast 202
3% Weruva Meow Luau 253
1% Weruva Marbella Paella 253
1% Weruva Outback Grill 562
1% Weruva Asian Fusion 295
6% Weruva Polynesian BBQ 390
0% Weruva Mack and Jack 337

Weruva Cats in the Kitchen canned food
5% Tu Two Tango 343
3% La Isla Bonita 166
4% Goldie Lox 252
5% Kittiy Gone Wild 412
8% Funk in the Trunk 250
4% Fowl Ball 180
4% Splash Dance 292
8% Lamb Burger-ini 236
2% Chicken Frick 'A Zee 174
8% The Double Dip 248

5% Go! Chicken, Turkey, Duck 309

5% - Merrick Cowboy cookout 202
8% - Merrick Grammy's pot pie 237
3% - Merrick Surf n Turf 229
4% -Merrick Southern delight -328 this one has crawfish in it.
8% -Merrick Ocean Breeze 420
9% -Merrick Turducken 219

1% - Merrick Before Grain cat 96% beef – 163
2% - Merrick Before Grain cat 96% chicken – 341
2% - Merrick Before Grain cat 96% turkey – 178
2% -Merrick Before Grain cat 96% quail and chicken – 506
2% - Merrick Before Grain cat 96% salmon 439
2% Merrick Before Grain cat 96% tuna 450

5% - Wellness Kitten 216
4% - Wellness chicken 219
4% - Wellness turkey 201
5% - Wellness turkey and salmon 299
4% - Wellness Beef and chicken 226
6% - Wellness chicken & herring 303
6% - Wellness beef & salmon 207

6% - Wellness Core Kitten 255
8% - Wellness Core chicken/turkey/chicken liver 215
5% - Wellness Core Turkey & Duck 265
5% - Wellness Core Beef , Venison & Lamb 171

0% - TikiCat Koolina Luau 421 ( chicken with egg)
0% - TikiCat Puka Puka Luau 303 (chicken)

all the rest are seafood combos
1% - TikiCat Hookena Luau 337
0% - TikiCat Napili Luau 419
0% - TikiCat Hawaiian grill 300
2% - TikiCat Lanai Luau 348
0% - TikiCat Manana Grill 283
2% - TikiCat Bora Bora Luau 642
0% - TikiCat Hanalei Luau 354
1% - TikiCat Hana Luau 276
0% - TikiCat Papeeko Luau 392
0% - TikiCat Tahitian Grill 443
1% - TikiCat Makaha Luau 723

3% - Nature's variety Instinct Grain free Chicken – 302
3% - Nature's Variety Instinct Grain free Beef – 248
2% - Nature's Variety Instinct Grain free Lamb 262
1% - Nature's Variety Instinct Grain free Duck 191
0% - Nature's Variety Instinct Grain free Venison 330
? - Nature's Variety Instinct Grain free Rabbit ?

2% - Natura Evo 95% chicken and turkey 155
5% - Natura Evo 95% duck 251
6% - Natura Evo 95% venison – 416
4% - Natura Evo 95% beef – 234
3% - Natura Evo Turkey/chicken for Cats/kittens 266

8% Innova Cat & kitten 279

2% Hounds & Gatos chicken 241
9% Hounds & Gatos Beef 250
2% Hounds & Gatos Pork 403
5% Hounds & Gatos Rabbit & Duck Liver 402
3% Hounds & Gatos Lamb/chicken/salmon 225
4% Hounds & Gatos Trout & Duck Liver 366
3% Hounds & Gatos Lamb & Duck Liver 244
2% Hounds & Gatos Salmon 373


8% -Holistic Select chicken & lamb 222
8% -Holistic Select Salmon & shrimp 264

6% Nutro Natural Choice Mature Health Chicken & Turkey Formula chunks in gravy 204 this selection is being replaced but some stores have a little stock left.
new varieties replacing the old ones are supposedly all 1 or 2% carbs but waiting for confirmation....
Nutro Natural Choice Senior Soft Loaf Cod
Nutro Natural Choice Senior Soft Loaf Chicken
Nutro Natural Choice Senior Minced Cod and Tuna
Nutro Natural Choice Senior Minced Chicken and Salmon

8% Soulistic Shrimply Divine 270
4% Soulistic Double Happiness 262
3% Soulistic Polynesian Picnic 239
4% Soulistic Celestial Feast 250
7% Soulistic Upstream Dream 234
9% Soulistic Surf n Earth 255
8% Soulistic Nautical Nirvana 228

2% Purina One chicken pate 438
3% Purina One Turkey pate 469
5% Purina One Beef pate 530
2% Purina One Whitefish pate 734

9% ProPlan Turkey and Giblets 382
4% ProPlan Chicken & Liver entree 509
5% ProPlan Chunky Chicken Entree 639
2% ProPlan Whitefish & Salmon 662
2% ProPlan Kitten Chicken and Liver 436
6% ProPlan Kitten Whitefish & Tuna 522
3% ProPlan Kitten Salmon & OceanFish 462

9% Max Cat Chicken Supreme 173
8% Max Cat with savory duck 197
8% Max Cat with Savory Venison 214

8% Avoderm Chicken Chunks/gravy 234
0% Avoderm Salmon in consumme 469
1% Avoderm Swordfish in consumme 271
0% Avoderm Tuna & Prawns 278
2% Avoderm Tuna % chicken w/ veggies 241

6% Artemis Chicken 320
4% Artemis Turkey & giblets 409
8% Artemis Seafood 351

5% Halo Spot's Pate Whitefish 466 my cat does not like Halo.
4% Halo spot's Pate Chicken 303
9% Halo Succulent Salmon 227

1% Eukanuba kitten entree with gourmet chicken 253
1% Eukanuba adult Entree with gourmet chicken 239
8% Eukanuba adult Entree with Lamb and Rice 230
3% Eukanuba adult Entree with Pacific Salmon 241

7% Evolve -chicken 214
6% Evolve turkey 244
6% Evolve seafood 265

4% Natural Balance Catatouille (stew) 274
0% Natural Balance O'Fischally Scampi 244
2% Natural Balance Sea Brulee 297

5% Pinnacle Chicken and Ocean fish 175
5% Pinnacle Chicken and Tuna 221
4% Pinnacle Ocean Fish 231

3% Authority Chicken 238
5% Authority Sliced Chicken in sauce 284
7% Authority Turkey & Giblets 222
8% Authority Beef 249
7% Authority Whitefish 254
7% Authority Catfish 254
6% Authority Chicken & Liver Kitten 262

BFF (Best Feline Friends ) also made by Weruva
BFF 2% Tuna and Chicken 234
BFF 2% Tuna and Salmon soulmates 236
BFF 2% Tuna and Shrimp Sweethearts 236
BFF 2% Tuna and Bonito Be Mine 240
BFF 2% Tuna & Tilapia Twosome 240
BFF 5% Tuna & Pumpkin Valentine 243
BFF 2% Tuna & Chicken Chuckles 234

8% Dr Fosters and Smiths Chicken 204

2% ZiwiPeak Lamb 224
2% ZiwiPeak Venison 338
0% ZiwiPeak Venison & Fish 260
1% ZiwiPeak Lamb & Rabbit 280

 

Thanks for keeping this updated, Rhiannon! It is, indeed, quite handy! :thumbup

 

Wow, thank you, I had been attempting to compile a list for myself, and you just did all the work for me. Bravo, much appreciated!

 

Hi there! Thanks for this list. Are you the one who contacted Nutro about the new formulas? Simon is OTJ (and picky) and was loving the Mature Health Chix and Turkey chunks. Big bummer that I can't get it anymore! We are trying to do lower phosphorus and low carb and there aren't many options he likes. I'm not on the board as much since going OTJ and I was just trying to piece together the mystery and the current progress!

 

I did call them and they were willing to talk, very chatty and friendly but She wouldn't give me separate numbers for the as feds so that I could bring them to the board and let someone else
do the calculations .... she kept doing the calculations herself and said she was using the "as feds" to
make the calculations and told me that the 4 new senior varieties were all 1%, 2% or 3%.....

Do we believe her?

I haven't bought any yet to see if they do anything bg wise.... and test it that way. I might buy a can of each to see if Shadow likes them or they spike her.
And I really don't know how to do the calculations myself.... and was so hoping someone else would make the effort and help out.
I just don't know what I'm asking so I feel inept/inadequate.


I bought 8 cases of that old nutro mature health chicken and turkey chunks right as they made the change and suddenly Shadow has lost interest ( imagine that ohmygod_smile :roll: ) .
I figure it will keep for the next year and I'll give it to her little by little.


And we have a debate going on right now about the Weruva new flavors.... they might be higher than they are on the chart....
so those may be removed from the list here soon

 

Thanks so much, Rhiannon! This is just what I've been looking for.
You said:
<<and test it that way. I might buy a can of each to see if Shadow likes them or they spike her.>>
If it is the food causing BGs to rise, how much of an increase would be considered a spike?

 

Thanks for the list! It really makes food shopping simple.
r, Monica

 

Hosanna,
I would run an extra test to see a food spike.....

make sure Martha hasn't eaten in at least 2 hours.... test....
give food.... and test again in 1 hour to see how much she goes up.....
that would tell you how much that variety spikes her ....

and it would be even better to try this more than once.. on that variety of food to see that it is consistent.

 

This is really awesome as I am new to the diabetes thing..
Of course my vet is telling me to feed Hills DM only so now I know of some other alternatives. Question out of curiosity, do you know how the brands you've listed actually compare to the Hills DM?
I have 2 cats, one is fine and trying to feed them separately really is not an option so I would prefer to not have to give the other cat the more expensive prescription. Also, they are both "seniors", is the senior food better for them or does it not make much of a difference?
We are still trying to get Jynx's levels figured out, we are now trying 3 units Lantus twice daily. His curves yesterday were 289 and 510.

 

I don't know too many here who like the Hill's m/d food.
Is it the dry formula or the canned variety?
The dry formula is way too high in carbs for a diabetic.... and the canned food I believe is 3 -4% carbs but I can find it at this very moment so someone will correct me if I'm wrong.
I hear the cats who start on it like it for a day or two and then don't want it anymore. It has by products, inferior ingredients, Carrageenan (a suspect additive at best) and it seems
that the vets who push it didn't spend much time in a feline nutrition class. ;-) Not that they spend much time in a feline diabetes class either.
You will learn far more here than your vet if you just lurk and read everything you can.
www.catinfo.org tells it all much better than I could. You will want to bookmark that.
The hills is expensive and not worth the price and you should be able to return any unopen cans ( and open cans for that matter- just say your cat won't eat it)

You are better off finding a nice low carb fancy feast variety that both cats like.
Try to only give seafood flavors once or twice a week . The best varieties are poultry but some us feed many different ones.

You don't have to feed senior varieties but they tend to be lower in phosphorus ( which I have that number at the end).
You don't want to feed the highest phosphorus values daily... so when it says senior... if often is alluding to a lower phosphorus. Senior cats tend to have more kidney issues
and high phosphorus is very detrimental to cats with chronic kidney disease. So it's good to pick foods that won't cause new problems years down the road if you can manage.

Did your vet start you on 3 units?
That sounds high.
Why don't you create a new condo with your numbers and ask any questions you have about any of the process. You'll get answers for anything.
We are a very friendly community and we like to pay it forward for all the help we received ourselves when we were new to it all.
We can help you get a spreadsheet set up... a profile...
you'll be able to track numbers in a nice chart ( keep them in a notebook too in case of power failures or computer glitches) and see patterns in Jynx's numbers as to whether or not
you are on the right track.

And if you are feeding dry... and about to go to wet food....
we really need to adjust your dose so you don't experience a hypo situation switching foods. That dose would be high for a cat switching from a dry food to low carb wet food.
So please come back and create a new post.
Tell us what insulin you are on and if you are in the U.S. or Canada. etc....

 

Thanks

 

Thank you Rhiannon (and all).. I have been doing a LOT of reading. This is a GREAT site to really help out us newbies.

The food is DM, not the m/d.. canned. We started at 2 units Lantus but after yesterday's curve results she bumped it up to 3 and wants him tested again in 2 weeks.
It's going to be a chore to wean them off the dry food but I will be working on that. My schedule does not really allow me to feed several times a day. The one cat (who's fine) doesn't really eat much during the day, she eats mainly in the middle of the night. Jynx (the diagnosed cat) will gorge himself on canned food and then throw up, so I've always mixed it with dry or given only as a "treat". He likes the dry but I do not think he's addicted, he LOVES the canned but, again, will gorge himself and then eat the other cats.

I realize that this is also a life change for me so I will do my best. I have not gotten a home test kit yet, will do more reading up on that. I am so very thankful for this forum!

 

Essoh,
Please get a meter and start testing.... right away....

As we say around here, you wouldn't shoot insulin in a child blindly....
3 units is a lot of insulin for a small animal....
I'd so much prefer not to see you posting with a hypo incident and if you have one, it will cost you thousands of $$.

Your vet has given you a high dose and basically patted you on the head and said come back in 2 weeks....
right there.... I don't like your vet..... :evil:

come start a new post.... your own condo and let everyone help you help Jynx....

 

You're thinking of the Purina dm, which isn't that bad in carbs (3% for canned) but is ridiculously overpriced and is liver-based, meaning cats easily get turned off it after a couple of weeks. The Hills m/d is 14% carbs, which is too high for normal cats, much less diabetics!