Spicoli pt4

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  1. W.K.

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    Looks like he's not budging today.
    AMPS 462
    +2 481
    +4 484
    +6 451

    Maybe I gave a furshot...he didn't smell like it but maybe I just didn't catch it.
     
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  2. Kris & Teasel

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    I think it's likely a typical high, flat bounce curve after those low numbers yesterday.
     
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    Yeah, this is most likely the case as Djamalia also reminded me of this just last night. I just always assume I'm the one doing something wrong, and I shouldn't. But this sugar dance can be so confusing!!
     
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    You bet it's confusing! You did nothing wrong. The kitty is in charge. ;)
     
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    We're getting a little movement tonight
    PMPS 450
    +2 341
    +3 250
    +4 159
    Gonna grab 1 or 2 more before bed. Have to work tomorrow and at most I'll only be able to get a +2 and that's if I move his shot back about 20-30 mins. So my game plan is over 375 4.75u, low 300's and under 4.25u. Both with food left out. At 240 the other night on 4u he didn't hit any greens (while i was awake) so I think it's probably safe but at 264 and 4.5u he took a nose dive. If I can I'll run home and check around +4, but I'm the only one working the next 3 days...so it might be tough to do that.
     
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    So wow! A fully formed stool!!! There was a small amount of bright red blood on part of it so I know there's still some inflammation going on here. It's a common symptom of IBD so we may have unfortunately graduated to that point. But It's the first time he hasn't has soft or watery poop. I'll talk about it with our vet at the next apt. He didn't seem to be straining FWIW. It hasn't been long since we switched him back to novel proteins so this may stop on it's own. I'll keep an eye out an if continues then we'll head into the vet. It was a VERY small amount and I haven't seen it with the watery/soft stools, so he may not be used to passing formed poop. I suppose there's always the chance he could have been constipated a little... Maybe when I make the apt. for a dental they could also do a colonoscopy. We did de-worm him recently just in case it was causing some of our symptoms.
     
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    PMPS 280 4.25u (4.75 was too much and 4 was too little given the data)
    +2 161
    +3 78 gave small amount of 14% food
    +4 151
    +5 136
    +6 131
     
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    AMPS 606 Such a bouncy boy!
     
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    :confused::confused::confused:!!!
     
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    PMPS 434 I reduced down to 4u because I have an awful headache and was scared it was going to turn into a migraine and wouldn't be able to monitor, but of course I'm still up.
    +2 328
    +3 261

    Pretty sure he'll be in the blues most of tonight and maybe even hit a green. More than anything I'd like to *try* and reduce those super high bounces a bit. I know the high PMPS was from the bounce he had from last night and it didn't look like his numbers moved too much today. I REALLY want to do what I can to prevent that, but I know, I know....Kitty is in control :) All the supplements (Zobaline, S. Boulardii - stopped for now because he seemed constipated, FortiFlora, and P-booster) seem to really be helping him feel better all around. It's been a long past several months and to see him responding this well is comforting.
     
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    My my Spicoli! Don't bounce so high little boy :p. I am just chiming in again that I am thinking the P-booster helps Maury bounce less on the trampoline. I hope it helps Spicoli too :). Spicoli reminds me of the baby I wanted if my GA boy (Maury looks a lot like him) and his half sister (looked like Tonkinese) could have had kittens :cat:
     
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    We've been using it for about a week? or so now. He's still bouncing but some of the bounces aren't as dramatic. Except for this AM - PS 606. Yesterday he had a high flat cycle again, but stayed mostly in the 300s, so it wasn't as bad. He's still doing better overall. And the Zobaline has certainly helped with energy levels. I've been slowly shifting his his schedule so I can get a +2 before I have to head out the door, which has also enabled me to watch him more at night, since that's been when he drops. He usually has some nice PM numbers and then bounces for the AM.
     
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    I get so discouraged on days like today...when he's high all day long. If he's still high tomorrow AM I'll stick with 5u. Still high tomorrow PM 5.25. I hate when he gets stuck up here.
     
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    He's bounced up to those highs but even so they can still get stuck as glucose toxicity builds. That's why it's wise to up the dose sooner than later.
     
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    I went ahead with the 5.25. I had the same thoughts about glucose toxicity with him being stuck, and then DKA. He's ravenous today, gonna try and catch him for a ketone test.
     
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    I think that was a good choice. Let us know how the ketone test works out!
     
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    @ +7 was 295
    PMPS 509

    I gave 5.5u (+.25u from this AM) tonight. Just in an effort to get him down. Haven't caught him peeing yet... He isn't showing any physical symptoms of DKA. I know it can come on rapidly so I'm still going to try and grab a test tonight. I'm sure he went when I ran to the store or was in the shower...He knows whats going on :)
     
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    I definitely understand the sense of urgency with these numbers. I would encourage you to hold the 5.5 for three cycles before the next increase though. It's important to have a minute to adjust to each dose before the next one starts. Hopefully you'll start to get some more consistent action soon.
     
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    Gosh.. I know... I'm too urgent. I understand consistency and how important it is. I hope he does get a little bit more predictable soon. He just bounces anytime he gets good numbers. I should have gone with 5.25 instead of 5.5.
     
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    Oh, I actually think the 5.5u was fine. Just now that you're there, hold it for a couple more cycles. Once you get into higher doses, many people will start doing 0.5u increases instead of 0.25u increases if they have a cat that's still in high numbers. The reasoning is around the percent of the increase. At one unit, a 0.25u increase is a 25% increase. But at 5u, a 0.5u increase is only 10%. That being said, Spicoli has had a couple of greens recently, so you'll need to be a little bit careful which way you go with that.
     
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    Oh agreed. I'm pretty sure, just a feeling, his AMPS will be in the 300-400s, so I'm not really sure what I should do. When he wasn't having a high bounce cycle, in the 400's 4.75 was good. But any advice would be greatly appreciated.
     
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    The trouble is, there's no way to know for sure until you try it and collect the data. If you're home and can monitor, I would shoot the dose and just do some spot checks. If you aren't going to be home all day, I think you'll have to use your mama sense to decide what you think is best and what you'll feel okay with. I know that's not much help though.
     
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    +4 374 Not dropping much...

    I'll go by the little data I have since he started moving again. So it'll really depend where he is in the AM. Going to schedule a dental tomorrow for hopefully sometime this week. The ER vet said (last time he was in there) that he had halitosis and gingivitis. Our normal vet didn't seem to think anything of it, but he's had 2 FORLs and I know he's prone to teeth issues. Hopefully, maybe, that might help us. They're just so dang expensive!!! - though less than others I've seen posting around here lately. When we had the 2 FORLs it was only $350, but he had blood work done recently so it would have been around $500, so that's what I'm preparing myself for. Been trying to save up a little to do this over the past few weeks.
     
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    We're making a dry food change - I have the Young Again LID Zero Mature on the way!!
     
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    Actually, we've seen plenty of people have a dental push them into better numbers! Here's hoping it will help!
     
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    Dentals are crazy expensive. Sam had two extractions which were over $600 (I live in a very expensive city). I took him in because his numbers were starting to rise. Just a little, but enough that I wanted to make sure if everything was okay. The vet insisted that dental issues don't have any connection to FD, but as soon as he recovered his numbers stabilized again. So hopefully it will help Spicoli too!

    I'll be curious to see if changing the dry food has any impact as well. Fingers crossed that between those two things, he'll get some better ranges!
     
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    High this AM
    AMPS 569
    +2 520

    Going to try to run grab a +6 in a bit.

    Ketone test neg. He ran to the box as soon as I was heading to the shower this AM. I didn't get a clean sample, but got it off the pee pad in the bottom of the box. I had just changed it, so I know it was fresh. Will try and catch him with the spoon tonight!!

    Dental scheduled for Wednesday!!
     
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    Good luck, Wes and Spicoli! :cat:
    Maury's dental has a minimum estimate of like $600 too :confused:. Oh just saw you posted. Yay for neg ketones!
     
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    PMPS 449

    I went with a dose that had been working very well for us before the past few high days - 4.75u. He *should* hit a green tonight or get pretty close to it. Will grab a +4 just to make sure, as he has been in some low dark greens on this dose. Fingers crossed. I just have a feeling that the 5.5u wouldn't have been wise here. Who knows, maybe it was a fur shot/partial this AM since he wasn't bouncing, and I just missed it...I was half asleep.
     
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    Ok. My neighbors think I'm crazy. Spicoli HATES going to the bathroom in the house ever since he was allowed outdoors. The boxes are always clean etc and I knew he had to go from all the begging to go out. I opened the front door let him out, and took off behind him, little measuring cup in hand. Not 10 secs later he pops a squat and I get my clean sample. You guys wouldn't have thought twice about what was going on, but now I'm sure my neighbors, especially the ones on the hill, think I'm into weird cat stuff. But oh well. We do what we gotta do :D

    It was neg :)
     
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    +4 PMPS 85 so looks like he's actually been getting too much insulin? anyways 4.75 is too much for PMPS 449. Gonna be up a while, and expecting a bounce in the AM. Gave 2 TBS of 14% carb food since he still has 2-3 hrs to drop. SO EXCITING!!!!! HOORAY!!!
     
  32. Kris & Teasel

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    Looks like you're breaking through some glucose toxicity. A dose lowering is in order for this AM. :D
     
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    YES!! He bounced and was in the upper 500's (at work and don't have my SS handy, and forgot my PW so I can't log in on this comp). at +3 was 407. Did 4.5u this AM. Gonna try and run home for a +5. Might get tricky with his dental tomorrow. He's not supposed to have food after 9pm. But obviously if he's going to hypo then he gets food.
     
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    +5 418 So it looks like we're just having another high bounce cycle.
     
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    That's all right...those bounce cycles suck, but how exciting you got that green! Besides, sometimes after the first lower number in awhile, it's nice for us to see them not diving again. :) Looking forward to seeing more green!
     
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    He's given you some good signs recently. You'll get there. I truly understand the need for patience! :)
     
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    AMPS 459 2.25u since it's dental day and he can't eat :( The poor boy, all he wants is his breakfast.
    So I don't expect him to have a very active day today either. Will update on our dental this afternoon.
     
  38. Kris & Teasel

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    Good luck with his dental. It's so stressful for the human too! :bighug:
     
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    Those last hours of fasting are so hard. Hugs to you and Spicoli. Keep us updated on how it goes today! :bighug::bighug::bighug:
     
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    I am so mad at our vet. I had him check Spicoli's mouth not a month ago. I asked if needed a cleaning he said no. The poor thing just had 5 extractions due to more FOLRs. I know it's difficult looking in a cats mouth, but come on. Might be time for a vet change. I'm upset about this to say the least. No wonder he's been bouncing all over the charts.
     
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    That's maddening! Let's hope this makes his BG drop and settle down. :(
     
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    Well we're home. I went easy on the vet tech, it wasn't her fault and she helped him. I did tell her I was frustrated with some of the care we had been getting, especially regarding this. I just hope it gets passed along, though it probably won't.

    We've got bupe and antibiotics. Here's to having his teeth/mouth fixed :) I'm sure he'll start feeling better now. The poor poor boy. He has none of his bottom front teeth, and quite a few others missing as well. He's had 7 removed and was already missing 1-2 before that.
     
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    :(:bighug:
     
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    Poor boy! This will really help him feel better, though, I'm sure.
     
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    Oh wow. I would be furious. Give Spicoli head scratches from all of us, and keep us posted on how he does the next few days getting used to his new mouth. I'm sure he'll be so glad to have those teeth out.
     
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    I am. Beyond words right now. He seems to be in great spirits tonight at least. And I'm sure he's happy to have them out. They only charged me for 2 of the 5 because the other 3 were so lose she said she hardly even had to pull them - how can that be missed. I'm mad at the negligence. I'm mad my baby suffered for so long. I'm glad I scheduled this against my vets wishes.

    He's eating well :) Not crazy about the meds, but what cat is. Hopefully a good nights sleep will do us both good and calm me down some. I know it's not the end of the world, but how could I have missed this. How could the vet. At least my dad gave me a good laugh. He's a very proper man, never gets an attitude with anyone really unless it's deserved. He said he'd go give the vet a piece of his mind and it'd take the police dragging him out before he'd be done. I really can't even picture this...

    Thank you guys for the kind words :) We both really needed them. And he'll be getting lots of head scratches:):)
     
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    Hoping Spicoli starts feeling better asap :bighug:. Sometimes we have to trust our Momma instinct ;)
     
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    He's been eating up a storm since late last night :) Numbers ran a little high today but I thought they might till his mouth heals a bit. He doesn't seem to be in much pain but I'm still going to do the bupe every 8-12 hrs until our pre-filled syringes are gone.

    The YA arrived today and since Spicoli really shouldn't have kibble yet, the 2 civvies Taco and Addy did a taste test. I gave them both 2 small bowls - one with the YA one with the EVO. They both preferred the YA!! :) So glad, because I didn't get a sample before buying the big bag. The EVO is almost gone so I'm probably going to put the rest of it outside for our feral kitty.
     
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    Well, he doesn't seem to be feeling well today. Not eating much (still eating enough, just not as much as I'd like), loafing.. numbers high today. AMPS 541 +3 395 +7 434. Could be a bounce from getting into the 100s last night, but I think he's just not feeling himself after having all the extractions.
     
  50. Kris & Teasel

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    That's quite likely. Is he getting pain meds?
     
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    He is. Bupe every 8-12 hrs. But I think I know why now. The antibiotics seem to have given him a terrible upset tummy. We just had to have a bath :(
     
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    PMPS 428
    Had to resort to giving him a 17% food... even with fortiflora he would hardly touch his normal stuff.
     
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    Ohhh no! I'm sorry to hear his tummy is upset. What AB is he on? Can the vet give anything different that might be better for his tummy?
     
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    Clindamycin. They might be able to, but it'd have to wait till Monday at least. Loss of appetite is a side effect as well.
     
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    We skipped our morning dose of antibiotics. Shouldn't have, but I need him to eat and his tummy to settle down. There wasn't any infection to start with - it's more of a preventative measure. The good news is he ate well today. Numbers still a little higher, but he seems to be settling down a bit. Clindamycin is "the go to" AB for oral infections so I doubt they'd want to switch to something else. Will be resuming after his dinner/insulin tonight.
     
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    Kind of surprised they prescribed Clindamycin as preventative. From my understanding, it's one of the "stronger" antibiotics :bookworm:. Have you tried giving him probiotics while taking the antibiotic? Just like people, it can help their tummy :cat:.
     
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    Oh yes. FortiFlora and s. boulardii. Hasn't helped much...
     
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    Wonder if they have enough cultures. I think I've seen this one mentioned: http://a.co/ixLwWx5 and @Squalliesmom might've been the one who mentioned it. I've tagged Lucy to verify. Sorry I always tag you for supplements, Lucy! :bighug::bighug::bighug:
     
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    Lol, no problem!
    I have never used those particular probiotics, although I have used other Now brand products and liked them just fine. The probiotics I use are the Renew Life Ultimate Flora 15 Billion, which you can also find on Amazon. :):bighug:
     
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    I might try those. Do they also have that tastiness factor? He LOVES the way FortiFlora tastes and when he has some appetite loss it works well to get him to eat.
     
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    Just for the record, he takes FortiFlora daily for his IDB. I had stopped the S. boulardii when his BMs became normal but have resumed that since the diarrhea with antibiotics. I've read alot about how "pet" probiotics aren't as potent and I'm open to trying something new. Just want them to be appealing to him.
     
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    As far as I know they have little to no actual taste to them. I know my cats have never objected to them, at any rate! :) But I do not believe they have the tastiness factor that will help encourage eating, no.
     
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    Eh, well I think I'll still try them. They probably are more potent than what we're using.
     
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    He's been running high and pretty flat. Starting a new vial tonight, so not increasing yet.
     
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    Well, shoot. I was really hoping the dental was going to welcome in some better numbers. Hang in there!
     
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    We are :) I think the antibiotics might be at play here...his tummy is still giving him fits and he's obviously very uncomfortable at times. He had a good night the day after the dental, but has been so high since. Either way, we'll take it as it comes. I'm off work Wednesday, so I may increase tomorrow night and curve on Wed. And right after we earned a reduction!!! :banghead:
     
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    Like a dosing roller coaster!
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    How much longer does he have to be on the AB?
     
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    Till Saturday. I'm going to try and schedule a vet visit for Wednesday and see if we can't use something else. There are also a few other things to check on. He's still hoarse and last night I noticed him chewing on a spot where he had an IV catheter. He has a lump on both from legs from them.
     
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    Got the go ahead today to stop the AB- we hadn't given the last 2 doses anyways, and got something to help calm his tummy down along with the probiotics. Had his little legs checked, vet didn't seem to think much about them. Said they were most likely just from the IV catheters. Upped to 4.75u last night. He's moving a little today and it's curve day!!!

    AMPS 433
    +2 336
     
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    Not a bad curve at all! He got really close to a 50% drop which is great!
     
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    He did!! Thanks for keeping an eye out :)
     
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    Dose advice?
    It's shot time and we're at 210.
     
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    Went with 4u. Gonna be up a while :)
     
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    Well that was a nice green last night but I see Spicoli is back on the trampoline :cat:. Sorry you didn't get a response last night, I work second shift so by the time I get back on, most people are asleep in the states :smuggrin:.
     
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    He is... I gave him a little higher carb food at +4 since I HAD to get some sleep, so it's a food/bounce thing.

    And no worries :) I learned that 4u was too much for that PS value and handled it like I have in the past. His PS numbers have been dropping that past few cycles which is great, but things are so unpredictable right now.
     
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    We earned a reduction today!! The DH was put in charge of testing while I was at work. He successfully did his first 2 tests :)

    +3.5 109 - was given WAY too much high carb food (I told him a tablespoon, he gave a 5oz can "because he gobbled it up and wanted more") so I expect Spicoli to be pretty high tonight.
     
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    Another bounce this AM but at least we're making progress!!
    Last night
    PMPS 254 - 3.75 since 4 was too much last time
    by +4 (and after feeding again) 131 - gave a little high carb so that could be contributing but I had to go to bed.
    AMPS 456
     
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    Oh Spicoli boy, the blues are very nice numbers, no need to overreact and super jump on the trampoline :p:cat:. Wes, maybe try MC next time? I did little experiments with Maury and realized he didn't really need the HC when I had to leave or go to bed. Might work on Spicoli :). Obviously, only try it when you can check him again first :D.
     
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    So question - What constitutes as high and medium carb?
    I gave him some 17%.
     
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    This has nothing to do with the cat, but sorry if I tag you guys all over the place :) You guys have been such a big help to me and I know to many others. I just hated to see Bonnie and Oreo Joe weren't getting any feedback and I'm not really the one to give it lol. Maybe one day :)
     
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    Never hesitate to tag people! We're all one big community here. I was surprised when I read through the thread that no one had responded yet, so thank you for keeping an eye out, bumping, and tagging folks to respond. Then Chris and I ended up cross posting, but thankfully we both made the same suggestion. I almost never check out on Main, but I'm happy to help when I can!
     
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    Please feel free to tag us! I usually don't check Main due to time constraints so a tag is the only way I'll see a lot of those. Tag us anytime and we'll be happy to help! And you'll get there in time too. :)
     
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    I don't mind being tagged either, just feel bad that I can't immediately respond sometimes :(. I tagged you somewhere, Wes, to look at a newer member who had a kitty that looked like Spicoli's sibling! :cat: You've been very helpful too! I've seen you post some input :). I will still say "let's see what other's have to say" when giving some advice ;).

    As for what constitutes HC and MC, I don't know if there's anything official but many on the board say LC is <9%. So I say MC is 10% - 14% and HC is >15%, roughly. Most of the FF gravy lovers are >15% so that's where that came from :D.
     
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    I saw that kitty :) They do look pretty similar. And thanks for the carb info!! I now have some medium and high, depending on what we need - but none are gravy since it upsets his tummy.
     
  86. Djamila

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    Many cats can also be steered with just their regular low carb food, unless they are actually down to 50. It keeps them safe and avoids the spike. It's just a matter of trying it and seeing if it works for your cat since...ECID! :)
     
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    Reduced this AM - 4.25u, pretty sure he dipped a little low last night 4.5u PMPS 385 +4 180. I didn't give and MC or HC but gave him his regular food instead.
    AMPS 508
    +3 260

    Gonna grab some more midcycle tests but that (to me) seems like a pretty steep drop.

    What would you guys think about another reduction depending on how the rest of today goes? Looks like that dental is paying off!! :)
     
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    Hmm :bookworm:. I'm thinking *as of right now* hold the 4.5U. He bounced this morning because by +4 that was more than a 50% drop. I don't think he went dangerously low overnight but the 4.25U was safe today in case he's insulin sensitive. If he gives you another PS <299, then another reduction might be in order :cat:. Let's see what the others think :D.
    *Just my opinion, not professional advice* ;)
     
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    +5 105 fed some reg. food. ziwi peak rabbit and lamb 3%
    +6 147
     
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    Usually you just reduce if you get a number under 50, so I would suggest holding the dose unless you have a low PS and won't be around to monitor. If you'll be around though, I'd let him get as close to 50 as he wants to so he can start getting used to those numbers again. The lower nadirs are needed to start to bring those PS's down. You need to keep him safe, so be cautious if you won't be home, but as long as you're there, his pancreas and liver need those lower numbers to wake back up.
     
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    We use a pet meter so that number will be a little higher, right? <68 is considered hypo correct?
    I'll be at work the next 2 days, and I'm not sure if I'll be able to come check or not. But the DH will be testing Sat. while I'm gone :) Hopefully he can follow directions this time.
     
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    Oh my gosh, I'm so sorry!!! I'm so glad you knew to ignore that bad advice!!!
     
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    LOL not bad advice :) but I did want to double check.

    PMPS 523 went back to 4.5u
     
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    +3 243
     
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    AMPS 494
    +3 396
    +11 82 (76 then retested because I didn't think it was right.)

    What in the world. I was at work all day, but DH said he seemed perfectly fine and just wanted outside all day. I'm just worried he hypo'd and it wasn't caught.
     
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    Maybe it was just a late nadir :). Or he will have had a safer hypo into better numbers? :D
     
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    PMPS AT2 - 49
    HS vet gluco gauge - 71

    I can stall but he's still falling. And going to eat my face soon if he isn't fed.
     
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    Whoa, Spicoli! When I said 50 the other day, I was wrong! You're not supposed to be listening to me! ;)

    Looks like he really does want a reduction! Have you stalled at all yet? I agree that those 20 minutes of waiting are the worst.
     
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    We're in the process of stalling. 10 mins to go.

    I'm glad he's listening to someone!! :)
     
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    I don't expect that he'll be high enough to shoot the full dose, but I'm curious if he'll have started to rise yet. Then the question becomes, "what to do?"

    How is your schedule for tomorrow and Monday? Can you get off schedule and work your way back? Or do you need to stay within the one hour window?
     

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