To shoot or not to shoot?

Discussion in 'Prozinc / PZI' started by Silvia, May 11, 2019.

  1. Silvia

    Silvia Member

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    Phoenix has been giving me low numbers recently. He hasn’t had insulin for almost two days and he’s been pretty stable. When we went 4 days without insulin, his numbers climbed up but always below 150. Not sure what to do about him.
     
  2. Lisa and little

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    Without numbers for today tough to say.. can you get a reading?
     
  3. Silvia

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    I have two readings. He ate an hour ago, I will test in 1 hour again.
     
  4. Lisa and little

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    Sorry. I saw the blank at AMPS...
     
  5. Silvia

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    He gave me a 101, 2 hours after his meal! No insulin tonight...
     
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  6. Rachel

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    Looking really good! That low number after eating is a sign that the pancreas are kicking in and helping out. I know you mentioned that usually after a few days of no shots, he goes up and you have to shoot again. That's actually really normal. The pancreas don't just turn back on like a switch and start working (though I wish they did!!!). Usually when they are starting to heal, they sputter...might work for a day or two and then not work as well for a bit. That happens for a bit until you finally reach the point of them working better and getting OTJ. There's no process to speed it up unfortunately...just have the let the sputters happen and work around them. The bad news is that makes dosing pretty wonky since you never really know if they are helping or not and it can be trickier for us. The good news is that you're following a path that is pretty normal for cats who might be on their way OTJ. Not saying it will happen for sure...some cats just don't go off the juice, but you're still pretty new in the diagnosis and already getting these good numbers and no shot days...it's a good sign.
     
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  7. Silvia

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    Thank you! It’s incredible how fast he’s going. Clearly the diet was the main culprit.
     
  8. Lisa and little

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    Looking good. Prayers it sticks. Go pancreas!!
     
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  9. Yong

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    That is SO true, Rachel!!! lol. :D I think I had this expression for 2 months before giving Maury an official trial :confused::confused::confused::confused: haha!

    Very nice progress with Phoenix, Silvia! And he has such a cute face! :cat:
     
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  10. sherrib

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    Diet was definitely with skittles too. Story of the 1st time he went into remission.....
    He was DX in Oct (2015 ) and in December I stopped listening to his vet and switched him over to low carb can food and within 3 weeks he was completely off the juice.

    He is back on now though, but when he doesn't eat enough his number is always to low to shoot ( weird )
     
  11. Silvia

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    I find Phoenix goes low (80-50) at night. During the day he can test up to 115 about 2 hours after his breakfast. How did you figure out you had to re introduce insulin? We will be going on vacation in July for about a week, I’m hoping he won’t be back on insulin especially at that time.
     
  12. Yong

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    Typically, it's one of the reasons we suggest people still randomly test BG here and there while they're OTJ. If you start seeing higher numbers again (they can be gradual increases or sudden :facepalm:), then it can be a sign they might need to go back on insulin. Some are kicked out of remission for dental issues, which seems to be a popular cause. Some stay in remission for the rest of their life. Every Cat Is Different :D.

    You can look at my boy's SS. He was more of a gradual increase and I noticed his BG not dropping as much as earlier on. I was also kind of worried he might come out of remission so I never really stopped testing his BG but it paid off :).
     
  13. sherrib

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    Skittles got a tooth infection and it knocked him out of remission ☹️
     

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