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TYLER'S JOURNEY #14

Discussion in 'Caninsulin / Vetsulin and N / NPH' started by Diane Tyler's Mom, Oct 5, 2019.

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    Have a good day Linda
     
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    @MrWorfMen's Mom hey Linda
    SATURDAY 10-5-19
    PMPS - 165 Going with 0.5 on the line
     
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    @MrWorfMen's Mom morning Linda
    SUNDAY 10-6-19
    AMPS - 164 Going with 0.5 on the line
     
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    @MrWorfMen's Mom hey Linda how ya doing
    Funny thing my neighbor just called me and has 2 cats, One of them is big and over weight like Tyler, He just asked me what the signs are for diabetes. I told him and he said the cat lost weight, drinking a lot of water, He said he never jumped up on the kitchen counter to drink water out of the faucet. He's doing that now, He is walking perfectly fine. He didn't mention about his appetite. He is going to take him to the vet
    and see what's up. Oh Boy.
    I am thinking about going over there and test him
     
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    Wouldn't be a bad idea to test the cat at home before the poor guy goes to the vet and the cat's BG has shot through the roof due to stress. If the cat is diabetic, you're going to be his new best friend! LOL!
     
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    I asked him if he wanted me to come over and test him, he said he didn't want to freak him out, this neighbor is the know it all type sometimes, very nice guy but he irks me sometimes lol, Yeah new best friend lol. He says he's not eating like crazy. Oh well I offered to test him
     
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    Some diabetics don't eat a lot but that is rare unless there are possibly ketones in the picture in which case appetite will be diminished or just not there at all. He'd be well advised to get the cat checked out ASAP. Not to sound trite, but I've noticed that the men who show up here are often "cocky" and not much into details and it makes it hard if not impossible to get them to test as needed or even follow instructions given to help keep the cat safe. :rolleyes:
     
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    At least his wife is home all day, He is going to take him this week, we shall see
     
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    @MrWorfMen's Mom hey Linda here we go with the higher pre shot
    SUNDAY 10-6-19
    PMPS - 183 Going with FAT 0.5
     
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    Okee Dokee
     
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    @MrWorfMen's Mom morning Linda
    MONDAY 10-7-19
    AMPS - 153 Going with 0.5 on the line
     
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    I will talk to you later my friend
     
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    @MrWorfMen's Mom hey Linda
    MONDAY 9-7-19
    PMPS - 176. Going with 0.5 FAT
    He stayed pretty low today but no green yet and now higher than usual, oh well
     
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    You never know....he could have quickly sneaked a green in there somewhere......:D
     
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    Have a good night Linda, its raining here now and going to rain most of the week. As long as we have no thunder, Tyler the scardey cat will eat
     
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    We best not complain about the rain. Out west they're getting the white stuff and they are bound to send it in our direction! YIKES!
     
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    I know , we don't need that stuff. I'm just praying its not going to be snow storm after snow storm. I will talk to you later on or in the am
     
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    @MrWorfMen's Mom morning Linda
    TUESDAY 10-8-19
    AMPS- 177 Going with FAT 0.5
     
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    Talk to you later
     
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    @MrWorfMen's Mom hey Linda. Well high Pre Shot again, besides that this Pain in the A isn't hungry now , it's 9 pm
    TUESDAY 10-8-19
    PMPS - 197 was going to give FAT 0.5 again
    How late do you think I can give him his insulin, that's if he eats? This is when he really aggravates me, oh but then he's looking for the Dr Elseys dry, well guess what he's not getting it lol @MrWorfMen's Mom
     
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    You have at least an hour of leeway with his shots. Technically you could probably do up to 2 hours but that might mean watching him a little more closely the next cycle if you are shooting 2 hours early. If he wants the Dr. Elsey and that's all he'll eat, it's low carb so unless you are worried he'll go off the wet food, I'd probably give in. I'm a soft touch (too soft) when it comes to my animals. :p
     
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    ImI going to try again with the wet food in 15 minutes which will be 9:45 pm, if he won't eat it then try the Dr Elseys dry you are saying? I assume at least 1/4 cup of the dry in order to give the insulin @MrWorfMen's Mom
     
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    Oh lord I have no idea how much. Depends on the calories and how much you have fed so far and would normally feed in a day. I have no idea what the calorie count for Dr.E's is 'cause we can't get it here or I'd be using it! :blackeye:
     
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    @MrWorfMen's Mom ok he just finished eating , I can shoot at 10:15 30 minutes
    later. I was giving him the beef FF for awhile because he wouldn't eat the chicken
    flavor remember?
    I said to myself let me try the chicken , he ate half a can while I held the dish
    Up to his mouth, while my back is killing me.
    So I think I may try alternating every night with the flavors.
    Do you think it would be ok to shoot in the AM around 8:30 or 9:00 am
    since I shot so late tonight @MrWorfMen's Mom
     
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    Just sent another post @MrWorfMen's Mom #25
     
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    That's why they call them fussy felines! :p You'd be fine shooting at 9am. :)
     
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    OK thanks Linda
    In case you are curious the Dr Elsey's dry chicken is a lot of calories
    544 K cal/ cup
     
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    I figured it was pretty calorie dense. So for future use, the average cat would not need more than half a cup per day so for one meal I'd estimate maybe 1/8 cup at most assuming the cat gets snacks at other times.

    They never answered me when I wrote to them so I assume they don't. We can't import food due some draconian regulations that have made it darn near impossible for anyone other than the big pet companies to meet the requirements. They treat pet food crossing borders like it is a national security threat. :mad:Best we can do carb wise here is 14%. Young Again sent me samples and would ship but couldn't guarantee it wouldn't get stopped at the border when the regs changed. They were in fact the ones who alerted me to the changes so I could investigate and back then, Dr. E's didn't exist yet.
     
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    OK gotcha , I usually only give him about that amount of the dry if he bugs me. He eats about maybe a can and a half of the FF if its chicken flavor on the can the calories day 99 per can so if I give him one and a half cans that's about 149 calories there plus 1/4
    Cup of Dr Elsey's 136 calories Did I figure the 1/4 cup right? So total would be 285 calories a day.
    If I give him the beef flavor that's 92 calories per can. So one and a half cans of beef
    is 138 calories plus the 1/4 cup of dry 136 calories that's a total of 274 calories per day. Am I figuring the Dr Elsey's correct @MrWorfMen's Mom
     
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    Yup. You got it. At one time I had Menace (during her kibble days) eating 1/8 cup of her food at eat shot meal and 1/16 cup for snacks 4 times a day. Her food was roughly the same calories I think or perhaps a tad higher.
     
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    Trying to get him down to 18 lbs. Right now he weighs 21 lbs.
    I try to feed him less but he gets hungry and my vet says we
    don't want to starve him @MrWorfMen's Mom
    He will be going to the vet in the next month for a check up, afraid to see what he
    weighs on their scale
     
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    He's pretty well regulated now, so you could skimp a tiny bit on his kibbles! ;) He's probably not starving so much as he's got used to getting what he wants when he wants. If you went by my girl's appetite for food, you'd think her BG was off the scale! It was 53 this AM.
     
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    You are probably right, he's used to getting what he wants when he wants it, well that's going to stop lol. Right now its 1:30 am and he's looking for the dry food.
    No way. I never really realized how smart they are and how we give in to them. I'm definitely going to cut back on the kibbles.
     
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    WEDNESDAY 10-9-19
    AMPS - 193 Going with 0.5 FAT boy oh boy him and these higher pre shots lately
     
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    Sounds good.
     
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    OK talk later
     
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    @MrWorfMen's Mom morning Linda
    Tyler has a surprise for his Auntie look at last night SS
    THURSDAY 10-10-19
    AMPS - 156. Going with 0.5 on the line
     
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    It will be back. Perhaps a little more tweaking of his dose is needed. Let's see what he does today.
     
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    @MrWorfMen's Mom evening my friend
    THURSDAY 10-10-19
    PMPS - 143. Going with 0.5 on the line
     
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    Okey Dokey
     
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    I think I'd go with the fat dose and see if we can coax Tyler into a little green today. :)
     
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    That's what I was thinking, but wasn't sure. How is everything going on your end @MrWorfMen's Mom
     
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    It's going. Got to get out to do some fall cleanup over the weekend so trying to get house stuff done today. It's our Thanksgiving weekend so will probably go out for dinner one night but otherwise, I am going to spend lots of cuddle time with my fur kids. :joyful: How are things there?
     
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    @MrWorfMen's Mom Oh I didn't know it's the Thanksgiving weekend there, enjoy going out to dinner,to tell you the truth I don't even celebrate holidays anymore, I guess I'm a scrooge lol. Ashley's pain management doctor is being a real ball breaker, Last visit he insists she see an ENT because of the ears. She told him nothing is physically wrong with them and we have an ENT.
    Its the RSD in the damn ears, If she doesn't see who he suggests she will be fired as
    a patient. Hot stuff right! He says he is a Yale graduate, oh so that is supposed to
    impress me. So off we go this Tuesday to see him. I'll go in first to give him the run down so Ashley has to do less talking and listening. Hopefully the waiting room has no TV in it. She told the her PM guy that she won't allow the ENT to touch her face or ears because she doesn't need to start up a flare with the RSD.
    He said go see him anyway and see what he has to say, I wonder if he ever heard of RSD he just wants to show the insurance company that he's
    doing something, I'd like to throat punch this guy. Then he wants a letter from
    her psychiatrist stating what she is being treated for and what the plan is.
    He knows she takes Prozac , We see her next week. Told her about the letter over the phone and she thinks its crazy, I told her just write that you treat her for OCD and she is doing fine. He's really breaking chops here now.
    I bet I already told you this already did I?
    Oh then he wants her to go for physical therapy, she said no way
    For someone who is supposed to know about RSD that some people are put in more pain,
    She said to him go to physical therapy for what, he says to tone your muscles.
    She said do you think I care about tone muscles!!!
    So he said it was up to her if she goes, He just doesn't seem to get it that she can't be around noise, people etc
    I'm so pissed off. Let me know if I told you all of this already, want to see ifif
    I'm loosing my mind lol. Other than that same old same old @MrWorfMen's Mom
     
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    Sorry didn't respond sooner. Just catching up on some stuff and I never got an alert to that particular message. Seems to be more more tags and alerts not coming through than there use to be.

    Yes you had mentioned most of that before. Now I know though that the ENT appt is next week. Let me know how that goes.

    Don't think of yourself as Scrooge. I too could care less about the holidays. I've been lucky up till now because my SIL with Down Syndrome has been spending the holidays with her boyfriend's family so I would have Easter, Thanksgiving and Christmas all to myself but I do go visit with close friends on our Boxing Day (day after Christmas). Unfortunately, the boyfriend's family is moving out of town in a couple of weeks so I am now saddled with SIL and somewhat forced to feed her just to shut her up. She is all about holidays and FUN but has no idea that it is not fun slaving over a stove and then dealing with her total lack of appreciation of any of it. Thus my intention to possibly take her out for dinner this weekend. She just wants free food....doesn't give a darn about the company and often falls asleep while visiting. I warned her years ago that if she fell asleep here again, I'd be taking her home immediately. Boyfriend has managed to keep her somewhat awake here since but he won't be here to do that anymore so we may be having a rather short visits. :rolleyes:
     
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    No problem getting back. this sounds awful but just feed her and put her out in the car to sleep lol. Just put a TV Dinner in front of her to eat, nice and easy. How is she related to you? Who does she live with @MrWorfMen's Mom
     
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    SIL is my late husband's sister who lives on her own with government supports in a condo apt. we purchased for her. She was spoiled rotten by her parents and we inherited a very self centred young woman who though medium high functioning, has been brain washed by a mother who felt so sorry for her she never tried to promote her independence and essentially made her expect everyone to do everything for her. She is the laziest person I have ever met and treats her support workers like they are her maids. Wants to live independently but refuses to do anything on her own including any housework. Sad situation to be sure and I unfortunately am her only living relative.
     
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    Wow how old she. You must have a lot of patience to deal with her. I would never be able to do it. She needs a good swift kick in the you know what @MrWorfMen's Mom
     
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    You said it all. I was the one who promoted her independent living, let her try it out on a temp basis and she initially took to it like a duck to water so we made it a permanent thing but over time she has determined it's a lot more work than she is willing to put into it because absolutely everything was done for her by her parents. I had a great relationship with her at one time but now she thinks I am the wicked witch because I set the bar of expectations just a little higher than her parents. I know what she can and cannot do and expect her to live up to her abilities. That has never been done before. She is almost 47 yrs old so changing her now is pretty much impossible. She has no idea how good she's got it and I may have to pull the plug and find alternate more supervised living arrangements in the not too distant future.
     
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    I don't blame you for maybe having to find alternate living arrangements. You should be able to live your life in peace . Sure she's spoiled because of her parents. Dumb question her parents are deceased.
    Just tested Tyler @+2.25 and he is only 145. I'm sure the insulin went in or could it be he will drop later @MrWorfMen's Mom
     
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    Yup her parents are both deceased. I've been her caregiver for the last 16 years since her Mom passed on because her Dad just couldn't deal with her and for much of that time I also was dealing with both her elderly father and my mother. Between them all, DH and I had precious little opportunity to fulfill our wants/dreams and SIL has become more of handful with the passing of her father and her brother (my husband). I've done my fair share of family duty and frankly my patience with her is non existent at this point in time.

    Tyler will probably drop lower. He usually has a dip in the later part of the cycle too.
     
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    I hope so , but @+2.25 this has never happened. I'll see later.
    That's a shame that you and DH couldn't do what you wanted to do. I completely understand how you feel. At this point I would just plug the plug and let someone else deal with her. You have done so very much for such a long time now and I think you should be free of her and live your own life and not have to deal with her. Sorry if I sound cruel @MrWorfMen's Mom
     
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    @MrWorfMen's Mom morning Linda see #61 and please look at Tyler's SS from last night, wondering why he didn't drop
    SUNDAY 10-13-2019
    AMPS - 144. Going with 0.5 on the line Happy Thanksgiving Linda @MrWorfMen's Mom
     
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    There is no rhyme or reason why they do what they do sometimes. Perhaps he heard something you didn't that got him perked up a bit and caused some BG elevation around the time you tested. Our cats are hunters so anything that spurs their attention or gets their adrenalin rushing will cause BG elevation. Tyler is sitting in good range most of the time and rarely gets really elevated above normal to any degree. You could try upping the dose to a fat 0.5u today and see what he does as long as you can monitor.
     
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    Oh rats I already shot the 0.5 on the line, we will see what happens today .
    Are you done baking? @MrWorfMen's Mom
     
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    So maybe tomorrow try upping the dose a teensy bit if he still isn't dropping.
    I wasn't baking although a number of folks' endeavours in the last couple of days had my mouth watering. Did you see the gorgeous pumpkin pie AmandaE made yesterday? Quite the masterpiece!
     
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    Oh my god yes I saw it, it was beautiful. My favorite pie is Pumpkin, anything pumpkin, I'm
    addicted to the International Delight Coffee creamer the Pumpkin Pie Spice. So are you
    Just going to hang out today with your kitty's. I hate to cook or bake, I sure didn't take after
    my mom @MrWorfMen's Mom
     
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    @MrWorfMen's Mom morning Linda
    MONDAY 10-14-19
    AMPS - 173. Going with FAT 0.5
     
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    @MrWorfMen's Mom Linda I will start a new thread tonight
    TYLER'S JOURNEY # 15
     
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