Weight loss in regulated cat part 2

Ok I'm here.
Starting on young again zero dry food tomorrow.

 

Just a little note. I had to switch my boy to YA very slowly, it is a nutrient dense food and can cause some stool changes, so keep an eye on Jebat's litter box . Oh and first week of poo might stink more than usual

 

Oh no! His stool is already so stinky. Keeps paws crossed that he likes it. That's the first challenge.

 

Agreed... The first Three days my cat had the runs, but then it stopped.

 

Thanks for the heads up!
Can he just graze till time for his shot? Do I need to stop him 2 hrs before shot?

 

My cat was such a nibbler that whatever she ate of the Young Again... A few kibble here and there... Didn't effect her numbers at all, so I never bothered to take it up. I guess you could see if the same is true for you.

 

The YA brochure said not to mix YA with other food including wet food. So shld I mix or not? I c that u all are giving wet and YA. Any complications?

 

I do wet twice a day and ya is out all the time. Cats can use the moisture. I also add all their supplements to the wet.... B12, cosequine, omega 3, and recently one of my cats gets FortiFlora.

 

Thanks! Will try ur way. Feeding him soon in half hour n not sure which way to go. Hvnt let him sniff the YA yet. Will take BG reading then giv him wet n then insulin n leave a bowl of YA n see his reaction. Wish me luck that he'll try it.

 

It's always better to change a diet slowly anyway

 

If he's already got a full belly he's less likely to over eat it anyway.

 

That's wat I thought but the brochure says otherwise.

 

I got a blue for pmps! 182. I cldnt believe it so I repeated the test. So I shld giv him 2 units?

 

No that's too much. Do 1.... If you can't monitor maybe 0.75 . You don't have any data at this level so you want to be conservative. If you haven't feed since that first test grab another test now without food and see if it went up.

 

And congrats on your first low preshot!!!

 

Fed him already. I gave him 0.8. I'm also very scared. Will take data every hour.

 

I see you did.8. I think that's good.

 

It happened out of the blue! Cldnt believe my eyes. Oh n he luv YA. Gobbled a handful.

 

Haha. Those first low numbers are scary but great!

 

The first time I saw blues was after ya food too.

 

It's really rich food so if he's inclined to overeat spread it out or start off slow.

 

Ya it's really scary but great! Good for him. I'm sure he's feeling better.

 

I took it away from him already. Will give again in 2 hours time, his usual feeding time.

 

+1 reading is 270. Shldnt it be going down slightly after the pmps?

 

Nope... You fed him less than 2 hours ago. That's the food influenced number.

 

You can probably wait until +4 to test again.... Unless you're really curious. Haha

 

Haha ya I'm super curious but feel sorry for him. I'll do +3 n +5. Mayb +6. He's at the living room, chilling with the rest instead of hiding in the bathroom.

 

Sounds good! Come on, Jebat... We wanna see some blues and greens!

 

I just wanna be ready in case it happens n I can't get u all.
Just now 180 I gave 0.8u.
So if it's 100-150 I'll give 0.4u.
Below 100 don't shoot.
Sounds ok?

 

I wouldn't shoot below 130 for now without more data.... 130- 170 0.4
170-220 0.8

Just for now until there's more info.

Let's see what today's numbers look like.

 

Hmmm +3 went up to 350!

 

Yes, stop 2 hours before the shot so the pre shot BG test result isn't influenced by food.

 

He may be bouncing from that blue. His body hasn't seen that sort of number in a while. . I feed Maury YA and he still gets his wet food meals and lunches, and if any food is left I do take it up 2 hours prior to PS.

 

I see. So it's to be expected? I c wat the reading is at +6.
I hope when I remove the food from him tmr morning at 430, he would Hv had enuf. I intend to just let him eat YA. So I can at least Hv 4 hours of uninterrupted sleep.

 

It's 410 at +6!
What's happening????
Will it be 500 at amps?

 

Come down Jebat! You're giving your mama an ulcer! Lol.


It's OK... It's just one day... It'll settle down.

 

I always found a good play session helped get the numbers to behave a bit. If he's willing to play get the boy moving and grooving.

 

Hahaha ya all the happiness turn to nought.
And he's not eating the YA.
So tmr dose will depend on his amps? Or shld I lower it?

 

Up to you. I'm a fan of dosing as it comes.

 

Tomorrow's AM dose will depend on his AM pre shot test result.

 

It's 4am and he's been meowing wholenight. I don't know why. Din want to eat his wet food either.

 

Ok thks! Hopefully his system will settle down n don't bounce again. Hard to handle.

 

Just to confirm. The b12 is zobaline by lifelink? The bottle comes with 60 of 3mg tablets? I'm buying from Amazon.

 

Yep.

 

Thanks! Was at the vet just now to buy a bottle of vetsulin. Dey reminded me not to go beyond 2.4u as they said it's already high. Can only roll my eyes!

 

I suppose an overly cautious vet is better then the ones we see on here starting people off on 5 and 6 units. hahaha

 

I guess so. I have a cat with stomatitis and they asked me to pull out all his teeth but they can't guarantee he will recover. And another cat who had diarrhoea for just one morning and the vet made me do full blood count and her liver enzyme is slightly elevated. She said could be cancer. Just like in jebat's case they said cld b cancer cos he lost weight when I was away. I shld update them that he has put back on. Half the time I thk they r out to make $ from pet owners.

 

So true, Janet!
Nice run of yellow and blue for your Saturday AM cycle

 

Thanks Yong! A good day today. Must be the YA. I'm slowly increasing the amount of ground YA I put in his food.

 

Looking better. The new food seems to be helping.

 

Maybe time for new vets.

 

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yes! Hoping to see the numbers going down soon.

 

Hmmm so I gave him 3.2u but I'm getting pink at +3 n +5.5.
Anyone has any thought on this? Is it a bouncing effect? Cld it b a low reading at +1 or +2? This is like unravelling a mystery.

 

Any chance it was a fur shot?

 

No. He's a short hair n d vet has shaved the area for the shots.

 

He might have gone lower in the middle of the previous cycle and is now bouncing a bit. Keep the 3.2 u dose for a total of 3 cycles and then increase to 3.4 u if you don't get lower numbers.

 

Ok thks. Surprisingly he din wan his food at 4am.

 

Hi everyone!!!!
We got a green today at +6. Too happy to share.

 

If you just left the ya out all the time so you think she'd overeat it?

 

I left a bowl out whole day but he's not interested.
Does vetsulin drop so much? It moved from yellow to green within the hour.

 

Not usually like that for me.... Although I suppose it's possible. If you ever get an unexpected reading like that id take another test just to double check.

 

Wanted to but he was getting aggressive. Oh well, can get more readings tonite. Just hope he doesn't bounce like yesterday.

 

I didn't want to rain on the green parade but with the +5 and +7 numbers, I have to wonder if it really was 84. Also, adding in that if he did go to 84 at +6, I would have expected to see some sort of bounce by PMPS. You didn't, by chance, take another test immediately?

 

Haha now that I thk about the numbers, it's very unlikely to be 84, ya? Darn! I thot we almost got the dose rite this time. And considering we bounced last nite. Oh well! Better luck next time. Now I feel silly to be so excited.

 

I'm sorry . Janet can correct me if I'm wrong but I think as long as his PS is around the 300s, stick with the 3.2U to see what it does once the bounce clears . You can still be excited because you're making progress

 

It's unlikely but she did say she fed him when she saw the 84, so that would raise the numbers. Eh who knows.

 

On another thought, If it's a faulty strip why does it show a low number and not high? Hmmm I'm consoling myself. But yes, I do think we are making progress. I'm understanding dosing much better now and all these food stuff. Definitely more knowledgeable than my vets.
Do your cats have problem peeing in the box? Mine seems to be peeing outside the box and he's always so smelly. He's such a clean cat all these years that we are at a loss how to help him. Been bathing him weekly now but he gets smelly the next day.

 

It may not have sucked up enough blood to give proper result but enough to give a reading. Does Jebat have a big step into the box? Could try a shallow one until his neuropathy starts improving

 

Oh din realise about the blood part. Cos once it beeps I thot that's enuf. Never mind, I'll remember to repeat in future.
Just bought a shallower box for him. He went in but he sprayed outside. It's a standard size mind u.

 

Hmm, some buy plastic storage totes, cut a lower entry but has the high sides since he sprays.

 

Ya good idea. Din think of dat. Thanks!