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Bexygirl83

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Hi there! I just woke up to Audrey laying in the floor almost unconscious. Bg readings are coming up "lo". I've tried using a syringe to give her bits of karo syrup. I'm not sure what to do right now.
 
*update*
By is now reading at 45. I'm not sure how much syrup I've given her maybe 3/4 teaspoon. If I can get her to eat I will try. She's not really responding yet to me or food, but she's awake.
 
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She just tried to sit up but is very wobbly. I put food in front of her abt she wants it but acts like she can't eat. Not sure what to do from here.
 
If it's coming up looking that's extremely low. If someone else can drive you can sit with her and continue to give syrup.
 
She's eating some friskies gravy food right now with a little syrup on top. I gave her insulin at about 6 am. I woke up to get laying on the ground totally out of it. Bg is 40 right now. We use vetsulin.
 
that's a close call. too close...

keep monitoring her....
if you can get her to the vet to be checked out, that would be wise.
You don't know how long she was that low.

you will need to continue monitoring and giving her gravy or syrup today.

You want her back up , above 70 without having to give her syrup or gravy .....
 
Bexygirl83 said:
She's eating some friskies gravy food right now with a little syrup on top. I gave her insulin at about 6 am. I woke up to get laying on the ground totally out of it. Bg is 40 right now. We use vetsulin.
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How much insulin did uou give? Are you on the eastern time zone?
 
rhiannon and shadow (GA) said:
that's a close call. too close...

keep monitoring her....
if you can get her to the vet to be checked out, that would be wise.
You don't know how long she was that low.

you will need to continue monitoring and giving her gravy or syrup today.

You want her back up , above 70 without having to give her syrup or gravy .....
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I am glad your here... I am distracted at a zoo
 
Um, yes I believe eastern. Its 1024 am right now. I gave her 2.5 units with a can of ff classic. This has never happened before. She was running close to 500 about a month ago regularly. But I've been cutting her insulin way back. Vet suggested 7 units twice daily.
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Bg is 79 right now
 
Bexygirl83 said:
Um, yes I believe eastern. Its 1024 am right now. I gave her 2.5 units with a can of ff classic. This has never happened before. She was running close to 500 about a month ago regularly. But I've been cutting her insulin way back. Vet suggested 7 units twice daily.
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Well she's earned a reduction for sure. Did you test this morning before injection? Ok so that means she still has 1-2 hours that she can continue to drop so be vigilant and test every 15 min
 
well, she obviously has earned a reduction....

I see your spreadsheet is way behind.....
are you keeping numbers in a journal? It would be really helpful to see that data.
 
I feel like the worst mom right now. I was so tired this morning I didn't check her glucose. Never again. Should I let her eat this whole can of food? It's one of the 5.5oz cans
 
Bexygirl83 said:
I feel like the worst mom right now. I was so tired this morning I didn't check her glucose. Never again. Should I let her eat this whole can of food? It's one of the 5.5oz cans
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No... Give lots of gravy but you may have to get her to eat later and you don't want her full. Do you have any temptations treats? Those suckers raised my girl fast
 
Bexygirl83 said:
Um, yes I believe eastern. Its 1024 am right now. I gave her 2.5 units with a can of ff classic. This has never happened before. She was running close to 500 about a month ago regularly. But I've been cutting her insulin way back. Vet suggested 7 units twice daily.
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Bg is 79 right now
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Oh good 79 is good but test again. In 20
 
Just seeing this now - very scary for you! I'm not at home right now so can check only sporadically. I'm glad you have help. Will check in as I can.
 
She seems very calm and is sitting near the food dish. Still very wobbly when she tries to walk, but i don't know how long she was out for? She was twitching a lot, possibly seizing.
 
I will definitely call to see if they can get her in. What should I say about lowering her insulin against the vets suggesting? We haven't been back since I've been a member to this community.
 
Just seeing this. Glad some others were on hand to help with the hypo.

As has been said you need to continue testing. I t would be helpful if you could post the test reading along with how many hours since you gave the insulin...such as +3 (3 hours since shot) +4 (4 hours since shot) etc.

If you gave 2.5 units of vetsulin and got that low a reading then that dose is definitely too high. When things settle down and you can breathe properly again it would be helpful to update your spreadsheet with whatever readings you have done in the last month or so. :bighug::bighug:
 
Bexygirl83 said:
*update for anyone just joining*
907 am +3- lo
930 am +3.5- lo gave syrup
939 am +3.5- lo gave syrup
948 am +3.75- 45 gave syrup and attempted gravy food
1002 am +4- 33 eating food and syrup
1014 am +4.25- 40 eating
1026 am +4.5- 79 eating meow mix treats
1042 am +4.75- 76 eating gravy food
11 am +5- 94 resting
1124 am +5.5- 129 resting
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THANK YOU!!

"usually" vetsulin will hit the nadir (lowest reading) around +5 or +6 but each kitty can be different. At this point you would want to hold food and retest in 30 minutes to see if the numbers are still going up without syrup or extra food. The syrup wears off quickly but with the gravy and food that could be keep the numbers up. Please post your next reading.

As Janet said earlier with a hypo episode some kitties can be more insulin sensitive afterwards. The 2.5 unit dose is DEFINITELY too high, but until you get some updated data on the spreadsheet it is difficult to know what to advise for dosing. Glucose levels can change day to day which is why regular daily testing is important. With a faster acting insulin like Vetsulin it is imperative to test before each shot and ideally to retest at +3 or +4 after the shot to see how quickly the numbers are coming down.
 
I appreciate you so much @Tuxedo Mom for helping me with this. I have to admit that I have been very lazy about testing lately and don't really have any info to report. I'm so glad everyone here was able to help and i was able to start off with great info from the get go here in this community. I can't believe how quickly she declined today. And how serendipitous that I got a phone call to wake me so I could find her. I'm going to be very diligent about testing and keeping her safe.
Is there a safe place to start again? Should I start with 1 unit again?
 
Bexygirl83 said:
I appreciate you so much @Tuxedo Mom for helping me with this. I have to admit that I have been very lazy about testing lately and don't really have any info to report. I'm so glad everyone here was able to help and i was able to start off with great info from the get go here in this community. I can't believe how quickly she declined today. And how serendipitous that I got a phone call to wake me so I could find her. I'm going to be very diligent about testing and keeping her safe.
Is there a safe place to start again? Should I start with 1 unit again?
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Let's see where the numbers are when it gets close to the next shot time. Without much data recently it makes it harder to suggest a good dose. Also with the hypo today the glucose readings bounce and will be much higher for a day to several days. It may be prudent to start low and do regular testing in order to figure out a safe dose. Especially with Vetsulin you do want to have regular testing. With Vetsulin you can have a high preshot number a very low nadir and then another high preshot number. Without seeing what goes on in between shots you can't tell if the dose is too high. That is why some vets keep increasing the dose when in fact the dose should be lowered. The more data the clearer the picture becomes.
 
I really can't thank you all enough! :cat: I usually run to "freak out mode" in tough situations, but you all helped keep me calm through it.
Bg is at +6- 183 now.
No food for at least a half hour.
 
Bexygirl83 said:
I really can't thank you all enough! :cat: I usually run to "freak out mode" in tough situations, but you all helped keep me calm through it.
Bg is at +6- 183 now.
No food for at least a half hour.
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You did a great job of not freaking out..well at least not too much :)

Sounds like she is going to do a big bounce now after that hypo. Do not give any more food at this point and retest in 1 hour. I predict a very high preshot but that DOES NOT mean that you will need more (ie: higher dose) insulin. Best to test at least 1 hour before regular shot time and post the readings then to get some advice on what dose you should be using. Janet is very experienced with Vetsulin so hopefully she will be around and can give her opinion.
 
Bexygirl83 said:
Bg is now +7- 214:cat:
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Looking good! You can wait until +11 to retest and then post with the number. As Janet and I both said the number will most likely be quite high due to bouncing from the hypo.

Just to make sure...when you do your preshot test you should be doing the test..feeding and waiting 20-30 minutes before giving the shot. Vetsulin tends to start acting fast and tends to bring numbers down earlier in the cycle so having a decent amount of food in place before the shot is the best approach.

Please do post when you get your +11 testing.
 
Just out of a yoga class and saw I was tagged.

So glad your phone rang and that you took immediate action.

I don't have first hand experience with Vetsulin so can't give informed advice on how to proceed however it's true that regardless of which insulin used easy does it.
I will say take a deep breath. Plenty of experienced Vetsulin users here. The troops have been called in and will provide guidance. Even if she flies up to the stratosphere, consider all recommendations carefully. Remember-
Better a day too high than an hour too low.
 
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