3/17 Butch AMPS 367,+3 215,PMPS 230,+1 124,+2.5 53,+3 44,+3.75 151,+5 106,+6 43,+7 114,+10 186 Libre

[Madeline528]

https://www.felinediabetes.com/FDMB...150-7-5-289-pmps-311-2-208-6-53-libre.299200/

3/17 - I gave Butch a skinny 1.75 this morning and decided to give a full .25 decrease tonight. On his Libre monitor app after giving his insulin he his dropping (he is now 97) I am very frightened. Should I do anything? I can't test with a hand held.

@Bandit's Mom @tiffmaxee Butch is dropping again. He won't eat anything.

*Update Butch ate some kibble & 25%

 

[Staci & Ivy]

https://www.felinediabetes.com/FDMB...150-7-5-289-pmps-311-2-208-6-53-libre.299200/

I gave Butch a skinny 1.75 this morning and decided to give a full .25 decrease tonight. On his Libre monitor app after giving his insulin he his dropping (he is now 97) I am very frightened. Should I do anything? I can't test with a hand held.

You could always give him some carbs to slow him down, Madeline. where are you in the cycle?

 

[Marielle]

Madeline, change your date to reflect 3/17--the incorrect date might be confusing to those you're hoping to hear from.

 

[Madeline528]

You could always give him some carbs to slow him down, Madeline. where are you in the cycle?

I just gave him mc 15% tsp & 1/2 tsp hc 20%, I am not even an hour in. another 20 minutes and it's the +1. Now the sensor is no longer reading. I am so nervous!

 

[Madeline528]

Madeline, change your date to reflect 3/17--the incorrect date might be confusing to those you're hoping to hear from.

Thank you so much. Please let me know if I did it correctly.

 

[Marielle]

Thank you so much. Please let me know if I did it correctly.

Change it in your title--where you have your question posted and Butch's daily numbers

 

[Madeline528]

Change it in your title--where you have your question posted and Butch's daily numbers

Thank you. I am so nervous, I didn't realize or see that I had put 2/17.

 

[Bandit's Mom]

Did he drop from 230 to 97 in 40 mins after insulin?? That seems odd since Lantus would not have been onset and it doesn't even look like he is having a late nadir from bounce clearing in the previous cycle.

 

[tiffmaxee]

I dint Eve see a 97 or a 230 on the ss. It seems the Libre is giving odd bg.

 

[Madeline528]

Did he drop from 230 to 97 in 40 mins after insulin?? That seems odd since Lantus would not have been onset and it doesn't even look like he is having a late nadir from bounce clearing in the previous cycle.

Lately I find has I get closer to his preshot his numbers are lower. His nadir has change I believe it's more the +5 +6. The 230 was before he started to eat. Butch gave me a hard time eating tonight. He finished eating about 8:40 and his bg was 138 on the sensor before a shot at 8:45

 

[Madeline528]

I dint Eve see a 97 or a 230 on the ss. It seems the Libre is giving odd bg.

I didn't put in the 97 because it was before his +1. I fed him tsp of 15% and 1/2 tsp 20% when I saw the 97. The sensor loses data. I believe that happens when it moves quickly.

 

[Bandit's Mom]

OK. I see 230 at PMPS for tonight on the SS and nothing after. Is the sensor reading now? Anything after that 97 and higher carb food?

 

[tiffmaxee]

Got it. That was on,y 40 minutes after injecting?

 

[Staci & Ivy]

I didn't put in the 97 because it was before his +1. I fed him tsp of 15% and 1/2 tsp 20% when I saw the 97. The sensor loses data. I believe that happens when it moves quickly.

You can put more than one number in a cell. Like 97 +1.5 (or something like that.

Yes, if the number is dropping or shooting up quickly the sensor takes time to regulate it seems. We just have to wait

 

[Staci & Ivy]

I would just keep an eye on the sensor readings and you can feed him accordingly as you always do Madeline.
You got this. You’ve done this before

 

[Madeline528]

OK. I see 230 at PMPS for tonight on the SS and nothing after. Is the sensor reading now? Anything after that 97 and higher carb food?

Yes, It is +1 and he is now 124. Should I give more carbs?

 

[Staci & Ivy]

Yes, It is +1 and he is now 124. Should I give more carbs?

If you feel he’s dropping too fast you can give him something.
(I give a small snack at +1,2,3 for Ivy to keep her from tanking in the beginning of her cycles)
But if she’s diving fast, I up the carbs a bit. Depends how fast she’s diving.

I’m sure Elise and Bhooma have Excellent advice here.

 

[Madeline528]

If you feel he’s dropping too fast you can give him something.
(I give a small snack at +1,2,3 for Ivy to keep her from tanking in the beginning of her cycles)
But if she’s diving fast, I up the carbs a bit. Depends how fast she’s diving.

I’m sure Elise and Bhooma have Excellent advice here.

Thank you, Staci. The carbs are rising the BG but the sensor shows the arrow going straight down. I don’t know if I should feed in between the +1, +2, +3. Butch usually goes low +4, +5, +6

 

[Madeline528]

I would just keep an eye on the sensor readings and you can feed him accordingly as you always do Madeline.
You got this. You’ve done this before

 

[Staci & Ivy]

Thank you, Staci. The carbs are rising the BG but the sensor shows the arrow going straight down. I don’t know if I should feed in between the +1, +2, +3. Butch usually goes low +4, +5, +6

If you need to feed in between I think you can.
If he’s diving, then you can give him a teaspoon (or 1/2 tsp if that works).
Just watch the sensor and see what he is doing.
Sometimes I’m feeding her every 20 or 30/40 minutes. Just a tiny bit to keep them hungry.

 

[Madeline528]

I would just keep an eye on the sensor readings and you can feed him accordingly as you always do Madeline.
You got this. You’ve done this before

Got it. That was on,y 40 minutes after injecting?

Yes. I fed mc tsp & 1/2 tsp hc. Butch came up at the +1 124

 

[tiffmaxee]

Here’s a good example of feeding to manipulate the curve as Staci is suggesting.
https://felinediabetes.com/FDMB/threads/8-10-tashie-pmps-high-questions.101989/

Look at #15.

 

[Madeline528]

Here’s a good example of feeding to manipulate the curve as Staci is suggesting.
https://felinediabetes.com/FDMB/threads/8-10-tashie-pmps-high-questions.101989/

Look at #15.

He just dropped to 52

 

[Nestle]

 

[Bandit's Mom]

He just dropped to 52

This is how long after the shot? You are still seeing the effects of the depot from the previous dose.
Please feed some HC. Although with the Libre, I never know how accurate the reading is. @Staci & Ivy will be better placed to advice on that!

 

[Madeline528]

This is how long after the shot? You are still seeing the effects of the depot from the previous dose.
Please feed some HC. Although with the Libre, I never know how accurate the reading is. @Staci & Ivy will be better placed to advice on that!

He won't eat any more

 

[Bandit's Mom]

He won't eat any more

He's probably not as low as the Libre is indicating.
See if you can get a tsp of just the gravy from the HC food into him? Just leave it out there for him to eat in a few mins if he feels like it.

 

[Madeline528]

He's probably not as low as the Libre is indicating.
See if you can get a tsp of just the gravy from the HC food into him? Just leave it out there for him to eat in a few mins if he feels like it.

he is turning his nose up to his usual hc. I just gave him some kibble. I also have friskies that I give my outside colony. I am going to look for a hc to see if he eats that

thank you so much. I am so nervous I am alone with him and limited to what I can do

 

[Bandit's Mom]

Did he eat anything? Where is his BG at now?

 

[Madeline528]

Did he eat anything? Where is his BG at now?

He ate some kibble and he ate little of friskies hc. the Libre sensor isn't reading any data. It does this. I just got a read 151 +3.75

 

[Bandit's Mom]

He ate some kibble and he ate little of friskies hc. the Libre sensor isn't reading any data. It does this. I just got a read 151 +3.75

Nicely up. Please go easy on the HC/kibble. I think normal food from now might just be fine.

 

[Madeline528]

Nicely up. Please go easy on the HC/kibble. I think normal food from now might just be fine.

Ok. I will thank you so much. Now that the data is up on the graph it’s showed at 12 AM his BG was 44.
@Bandit's Mom Should I decrease tomorrow again?

 

[Bandit's Mom]

Ok. I will thank you so much. Now that the data is up on the graph it’s showed at 12 AM his BG was 44.
@Bandit's Mom Should I decrease tomorrow again?

No. Please don't reduce again. He didn't earn a reduction from 1.75U to 1.5U (unless he dropped below 50 when on 1.75U and it's not on the SS) and tonight's numbers are still the 1.75U depot at work. With TTR, we do not take back-to-back reductions. Stay at 1.5U for now. The depot takes 4-6 cycles to adjust to reductions.

 

[Madeline528]

No. Please don't reduce again. He didn't earn a reduction from 1.75U to 1.5U (unless he dropped below 50 when on 1.75U and it's not on the SS) and tonight's numbers are still the 1.75U depot at work. With TTR, we do not take back-to-back reductions. Stay at 1.5U for now. The depot takes 4-6 cycles to adjust to reductions.

Ok. Thank you, Bhooma