Blue AMPS 78 10/11

https://www.felinediabetes.com/FDMB/threads/blue-amps-372-10-10-117-10.236701/

Blue is at 78 AMPS and I'm stalling and waiting 30 minutes to retest? Correct?

@Critter Mom
@jt and trouble (GA)

 

87 after half hour so going to feed and shoot

 

Sorry I wasnt here. sigh thats basically the same number...or it would be for MOST kitties...Blue is...well...Blue...

Heck youre an old hand at this now. You know what to do.

 

Hi Patty,

Only just seen this. Will keep an eye out for you two today.

I recommend starting to test at +1 because this is the first time you'll be giving insulin on a green preshot.

Before you give the insulin, check that you have PLENTY of test strips.

Could you let me know the foods and their carb %s that you have in the house, please?


Mogs
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NB: I am assuming that you're at home all day and don't need to go to any appointments.

If you don't have enough test strips or if you need to go out today, I strongly recommend that you skip.

If you have enough strips and you are at home to closely monitor throughout the cycle then please can you confirm this to me.


Mogs
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Thanks guys.
I fed him and gave him insulin. I'm going to check the food now, but I still don't have the medium carb but do have the mix. I haven't been out since getting sick. I'll try to get some today.

Hope you are on the mend Mogs. I was getting worried about you. Feeling human again?

BB

 

I just bought strips so have plenty. I don't have to go out. I'll send Tara to get me some medium carb food.

 

Still feeling pants. In bed all day yesterday. Still bunged up and woolly-headed but not quite as sneezy thus far today. Thank you for asking.

Have your post-jab symptoms improved any?


Mogs
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Ace!

You good for a test at +1?


Mogs
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FF Delights - chicken 15% carbs; tuna 21% carbs
FF grilled - seafood grilled in gravy 12%; tuna 14%
I have plenty of low carb.
Temptation treats

 

I thought bed rest might help you Mogs. I hate lingering colds.
I'm much better but tired. I went out to pick up prescriptions yesterday so I lied. I have been out.
I'll definitely get some more Meow Mix today. It's kind of medium carb and he loves it.
Yes, I'll test again +1
Did I miss anything?

 

As pre-flight checks go, Patty, that's pretty much textbook!

Glad you are feeling better. I hope the tiredness goes away soon.


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We're at 90 +1 but I'll test at +2

 

I'm sorry I couldn't be here yesterday, Patty. I felt sad reading the earlier part of this thread where you were 'posting into the void'. That said, you did a sterling job. I get the sense that your confidence is growing with every cycle.


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No food bump. Will check back for +2.

SITREP --------------------------------------------------------------------------------

AMPS - 78 - stalled 30 mins (no food) - 2nd rdg 87 - fed LC - gave 0.75IU
+1.00 - 90

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Mogs
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Thanks Mogs. I was frightened but tried to remember what you and Elise have taught me.
I did remember this time to stall and retest this morning. That's a first.

 

I think you're doing great, Patty.

First time dosing on that low a preshot is indeed nerve-wracking. (((Patty)))

As you're starting to see, Lantus is better at keeping numbers down than yanking them down the way that the likes of Vetsulin does.

Fingers and paws crossed in the Shire for a smooth, surfy cycle today.


Mogs
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Blue is 55 +2

 

Well look at Blue. Feed some mc please. Maybe add a drop of honey so he won’t go under 50 without a fight.

 

Congrats!

 

Thanks!!! Yay, he's starting to settle in it looks like. Want me to test +3 or sooner?

 

I’d test in 30 please.

 

Way to go, Team Blue!




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Sorry I didn't get back sooner, Patty. Buggered up the timer on my tablet.


Mogs
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No problem Mogs. Elise came on and directed me.
I’m excited. Yesterday all blue! Nervous today but we’ll see where he goes.
Tell me again the numbers we’re striving for. Is it 70-170? Is it preferable to be in the green numbers over the blue?

 

AKKKKK is down to 44 I put a little honey on his gums

 

You're deep in tight regulation territory now, Patty!

Goal is to keep Blue above 50. In green above 50 is the best range to be in. Best opportunity for pancreatic beta cells to rest and recover function. The normal feline BG range as measured on a human meter is 50-120mg/dL.


Mogs
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Dagnabits!!!

Feed him a couple of teaspoons of the highest carb food you have as well as the honey, please.

Test again in 30 mins at the very latest, Patty.

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He’s had it with this dose for now.

 

Oh I hate that we have to go down again.

 

indeed.

Elise, overall I think when Blue's on a good run, feeding him extra carbs in the first few hours of the cycle tends to steady him a bit more. Thoughts?

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, , and thrice .


Mogs
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Yes. I’m sorry I did t suggest it at first and came back with an afterthought. I was trying to help a newbie and wish I had been here instead.

 

To cheer us all up I'm now cybersharing my crème pâtissière and Belgian chocolate choux bun with both of you.





Mogs
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We know for next time, Elise.


Mogs
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Yummy. Thanks.

 

We'll start over. I'm learning. Thanks for all the direction. I'm going to test again in a few minutes to make sure he's coming back up.

 

With TR, you may only need to hold the reduced dose for 6 cycles (depending what Little Boy Blue decides to do with it...)


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Have you noticed any changes in Blue's behaviour and energy levels over the past 3 cycles, Patty?


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I'm thoroughly enjoying it on your behalf, Elise. Cold comfort, perhaps, but I also get the calories.


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Oh my sweet tooth just perked up.

He's up to 54 +3

He's been about the same. He has been more lethargic this morning.

 

Just to check, did you give a couple of tsps HC and honey after the 44 reading, Patty?

 

Yes, I did give HC and honey

 

OK, I'd suggest giving 2 tsps HC and test again no later than 30 mins.

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It's still early in the cycle and Blue's in the 50s, hence the suggestion for HC. We need to keep him up but we don't want to give honey if we don't have to. We're still learning from Blue what he needs at what times.

(((Blue)))

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SITREP -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

AMPS - 78 - stalled 30 mins (no food) - 2nd rdg 87 - fed LC - Dose: 0.75IU Lantus
+1.00 - 90 - (no food)
+2.00 - 55 - fed few tsps MC
+2.50 - 44 - fed 2 tsps HC 21% + honey
+3.00 - 54 - fed 2 tsps HC 21%

TOOLKIT FOODS -------------------------------------------------------------------------------

12% - FF Grilled Seafood in Gravy
14% - FF Grilled Tuna
15% - FF Delights Chicken
21% - FF Delights Tuna

>30% Temptations treats
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Mogs
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Patty, which MC food did you give Blue after the +2 55 reading?


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I gave the mix we did the other day with LC and HC and the HC is FF with gravy

 

He's up to 60 +3.5

 

Thinking. BRB, don't go away...

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Was oscillating between MC and HC. Going to err on the side of caution because we're still early in the cycle and Blue's only getting a bump of about 10 pts on the HC.

Please feed 2 tsps HC and test again in 30, Patty.

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SITREP -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

AMPS - 78 - stalled 30 mins (no food) - 2nd rdg 87 - fed LC - Dose: 0.75IU Lantus
+1.00 - 90 - (no food)
+2.00 - 55 - fed mix 1 tsp HC + 1 tsp LC
+2.50 - 44 - fed 2 tsps HC 21% + honey
+3.00 - 54 - fed 2 tsps HC 21%
+3.50 - 60 - fed 2 tsps HC 21%

TOOLKIT FOODS -------------------------------------------------------------------------------

12% - FF Grilled Seafood in Gravy
14% - FF Grilled Tuna
15% - FF Delights Chicken
21% - FF Delights Tuna

>30% Temptations treats
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Mogs
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He's eating. He's tired but not sure if he just needs a longer nap or is feeling the drop in BG.

 

Good boy, Blue.

It's possible the BG levels might be making Blue a bit tired. Blue has spent quite a bit of the last day and a half in the normal BG range - first time in a while he's been there that long. If you notice anything unusual at any time, Patty, grab a BG check to be on the safe side.

Please give your beautiful Bluebird some fusses from me.

(((Blue)))


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Need a comfort break. Will be back for next test.

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I bet he clears a bounce quickly and who knows, maybe the reduction will hold this time.

 

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My apologies,
time.

 

He's at 76 + 4.5

 

Excellent. Thinking, two ticks...

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Is Blue due his next main feed at +5, Patty?


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Now here’s hoping he doesn’t go up too much.

 

+ 5.5 to 6 but if they all start the symphony I feed +5...oh it's almost that now.

 

If Blue will eat his main mid-cycle LC meal at +5 then I think that's the best move at the moment. What do you think, Elise? (@tiffmaxee)

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I absolutely loved Tara's video the other day!


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Thanks Mogs. It wasn't planned so all you got was my legs LOL but the most important thing was hearing my gang which is constant....meow

 

I can go ahead and feed or would you like me to wait?

 

Feed away, Patty.

Will the feed be at +5 or later (so I can update the SITREP)?

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5.5

 

Thank you!

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SITREP -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

AMPS - 78 - stalled 30 mins (no food) - 2nd rdg 87 - fed LC - Dose: 0.75IU Lantus
+1.00 - 90 - (no food)
+2.00 - 55 - fed mix 1 tsp HC + 1 tsp LC
+2.50 - 44 - fed 2 tsps HC 21% + honey
+3.00 - 54 - fed 2 tsps HC 21%
+3.50 - 60 - fed 2 tsps HC 21%
+4.50 - 76
+5.50 - __ - regular LC mid-cycle feed.

TOOLKIT FOODS -------------------------------------------------------------------------------

12% - FF Grilled Seafood in Gravy
14% - FF Grilled Tuna
15% - FF Delights Chicken
21% - FF Delights Tuna

>30% Temptations treats
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Mogs
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I didn't test again...oh no, hope I didn't mess up. He's eating now. It's really closer to +5 I think.

 

I agree.

 

I think it’s ok to not have tested since he’s eating. You can grab one when he finishes if you want as it takes about 20-30 minutes to effect the bg usually. It’s up to you and not necessary.

 

I'll split the difference and record it as +5.25.

Blue was at 76, nearly at mid-cycle and about to get some grub so OK to do next test 30 mins after he finishes eating his feed.

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Will do. Hope he's up more so I can get a nap in. I'm exhausted.

 

SITREP -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

AMPS - 78 - stalled 30 mins (no food) - 2nd rdg 87 - fed LC - Dose: 0.75IU Lantus
+1.00 - 90 - (no food)
+2.00 - 55 - fed mix 1 tsp HC + 1 tsp LC
+2.50 - 44 - fed 2 tsps HC 21% + honey
+3.00 - 54 - fed 2 tsps HC 21%
+3.50 - 60 - fed 2 tsps HC 21%
+4.50 - 76
+5.25 - __ - regular LC mid-cycle feed.

TOOLKIT FOODS -------------------------------------------------------------------------------

12% - FF Grilled Seafood in Gravy
14% - FF Grilled Tuna
15% - FF Delights Chicken
21% - FF Delights Tuna

>30% Temptations treats
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Mogs
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Joys of critter parenthood, eh?



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I’m going to keep my mouth shut.

 

You are so organized.

 

I have to stay up tonight to watch the Braves!!!

 

Ha ha ha now Blue is eating Brat's food. He's a hungry boy.

 

So a good night for him to keep you busy. Unfortunately I suspect a bounce.

 

Yes, that's what has happened previously. I think he's feeling better because he's playing now.

 

With the PTSD my brain is anything but, hence the need for the SITREP. I can't hold info in working memory any more. Once upon a lifetime I used to be a project manager. Seems like forever ago...

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(Mogs)

 

Blue's at 140 +5.75 so he went up a lot from eating.

 

They often get very hungry when the drop low but in this case I suspect he’s just making up for the past weight loss.

 

Funny, that was my title at Coca-Cola.

I'm the same but looks like you have overcome with documenting.

 

I'm going to lay on the couch for a minute. when should the next test be?

 

I honestly think you could sleep for three hours. What do you think Mogs?

 

Oh I will be woken up way before that lol
Did I mention I have 6 cats?

 

Hiya,

Sorry for delay in response. I'd suggest a +8, just in case he'd dip down again. Does that fit your schedule, Patty?

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Furry heaven!

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I used to do a lot of project documentation and also technical writing (service design engineer).

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Okay, he is now 399 so I guess this is him bouncing.

Nap, was so good. I had a furry buddy lay on me but I was so tired I fell asleep anyway.

You were a technical project manager then, too smart for me. I was in advertising.

 

Just a tad.

Glad you enjoyed your nap.

Horses for courses, Patty. I wouldn't know where to start in marketing roles. I used to do work in voice and data comms infrastructure, call centre telecoms systems design and implementation, bids & proposals, and mobile telecoms service design. And then I became a professional picture framer.


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You started a whole new career! You sound way smarter than I am. Quite a resume.
I guess you're retired or do you work from home? I've been retired since my divorce.
We had a printing company and I left when we separated. That was my second career.

Blue seems fine. Should I test any or just wait until PMPS?

 

All of us have different smarts, Patty. I envy you your marketing skills.

Unfortunately I had an accident which led to my developing first PTSD and then agoraphobia, chronic insomnia and howling obsessive compulsive disorder. I've been unable to work and been completely housebound for years as a consequence.

Sounds like you should be fine waiting till PMPS, Patty.

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That's terrible Mogs. I'm sorry that happened to you. I'm glad you're online. I'm sure you have helped numerous cat moms and dads, as well as all the newly diagnosed kitties. You are a blessing to have here.