Cat's Sugar Still High ...(Re-posting for new member)

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You should increase the food intake gradually whilst maintaining the dose and weigh weekly until he hits his ideal weight, continue and if he gains reduce the food a little. Unregulated cats need more calories as they are not able to use the food efficiently. It isn't as simple as increase the food and increase the insulin at the same time. Are you home testing? Can you set up a spreadsheet to track his numbers, the numbers will indicate if and when the dose needs to change and we can help with that.
 
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You should increase the food intake gradually whilst maintaining the dose and weigh weekly until he hits his ideal weight, continue and if he gains reduce the food a little. Unregulated cats need more calories as they are not able to use the food efficiently. It isn't as simple as increase the food and increase the insulin at the same time. Are you home testing? Can you set up a spreadsheet to track his numbers, the numbers will indicate if and when the dose needs to change and we can help with that.
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Alexi,at this moment I have only EXCEL version of Roma's spreadsheet. Please,find attached.
 

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Sorry but I can't open your spreadsheet, I will see if @Marje and Gracie can help with sorting out a google spreadsheet for you which will make life easier. If you don't have a google account can you set one up.
 
Oksana

Unfortunately, that is not the way we access spreadsheets here and they have to be linked to your signature block so we can always have them available.

I believe I might have offered before to do one for you and the offer still stands. Please just send me a private message.

Edited to add: the SS you have linked above is not the World SS and so it isn't doing the conventions to mg/dL. I can copy and paste the info from this SS into the proper one and link it in your signature if you wish....again..just send a PM.
 
I can see it - but it is the US spreadsheet which is why everything is light green because the US numbering system is different, we'll get you sorted as we are conditioned to be alarmed when we see that colour. I see you can generally get mid cycle numbers during the day but don't get the pre-shot numbers, these are important as you need to know if it is safe to give insulin. For now I would hold the dose and try to get some more data, Roma's numbers have been a bit all over the place but this is not unusual when you are starting out, but you do need to consistently getting the AMPS and PMPS every day.
 
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I can see it - but it is the US spreadsheet which is why everything is light green because the US numbering system is different, we'll get you sorted as we are conditioned to be alarmed when we see that colour. I see you can generally get mid cycle numbers during the day but don't get the pre-shot numbers, these are important as you need to know if it is safe to give insulin. For now I would hold the dose and try to get some more data, Roma's numbers have been a bit all over the place but this is not unusual when you are starting out, but you do need to consistently getting the AMPS and PMPS every day.
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Thank you:),I have no chance to take his AMPS and PMPS every day because of my working shifts.I'll try.Once again.I have to monitor every day pre-shots numbers and how many time a week I have to take a mind-cycle number?
 
If you can't get a pre shot number then get a mid cycle number that day and any others you can manage, it is all data and over time you will see the patterns start to emerge, please do take up the offer of sorting out your spreadsheet, to send a PM just click Marje and Gracies name under the picture, write your message and press send - she can do it in next to no time!
 
Oksana

I've had a chance to look at his spreadsheet since I fixed it for you and you added numbers. I am wondering if he is not overdosed?

He has gotten some blue numbers at 2.5u and then you see these red and black numbers. That indicates to me that he is going lower at some place in the cycle and then his liver gets panicky and releases hormones and more sugar to bring his BG back up (because it has become accustomed to higher numbers). We call this "bouncing".

It's hard to discover the low numbers if you aren't able to test a bit more. Once he gets into a lower number, he can then have six cycles afterwards of high numbers from bouncing.

It takes a test at every preshot and then random tests during the cycles to discover where he might be going lower.

Also keep in mind that if you change food from the canned and dry foods you are giving him now, which are higher carb, his insulin needs will also be less. I would make any food changes very slowly but I'd also try to get a few more tests each cycle, and definitely a preshot every single cycle, so you can see if he needs less insulin.
 
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Oksana

I've had a chance to look at his spreadsheet since I fixed it for you and you added numbers. I am wondering if he is not overdosed?

He has gotten some blue numbers at 2.5u and then you see these red and black numbers. That indicates to me that he is going lower at some place in the cycle and then his liver gets panicky and releases hormones and more sugar to bring his BG back up (because it has become accustomed to higher numbers). We call this "bouncing".

It's hard to discover the low numbers if you aren't able to test a bit more. Once he gets into a lower number, he can then have six cycles afterwards of high numbers from bouncing.

It takes a test at every preshot and then random tests during the cycles to discover where he might be going lower.

Also keep in mind that if you change food from the canned and dry foods you are giving him now, which are higher carb, his insulin needs will also be less. I would make any food changes very slowly but I'd also try to get a few more tests each cycle, and definitely a preshot every single cycle, so you can see if he needs less insulin.
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Ok,I'll keep this in my mind.I'm switching him from Hill's M/D wet and dry to Granata pet wet food.
 
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