01/14 Molly PMPS 27 +1@ 146 @1.5 214 +1 205 +2 173

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  1. Adrienne & Molly

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    Wow, just beautiful Molly!!! :D
    -29? :nailbiting::nailbiting::nailbiting: !!!
    Have a great day Adrienne!!
     
  3. carfurby

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    Beautiful greens. I hope you get more today.
     
  4. Adrienne & Molly

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    Thanks Sonia I was going to mention to your earlier. Leo is very cute :joyful:
     
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    Thanks Carla me too.
     
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    Another beach boy. The beach is crowded today.
     
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    Skip tonight? She’s not eating
     
  8. Christie & Maverick

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    Can you please retest that number? If it is accurate...Honey right now! That 27 way too low.
     
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  9. Christie & Maverick

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    @Adrienne & Molly if that number is accurate absolutely DO NOT give any insulin. Please post when you are able....
     
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  10. Adrienne & Molly

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    She ate and I gave her higher carb food. Do I still skip insulin? @MrWorfMen's Mom
     
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  11. carfurby

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    You'll need to skip tonight with a number that low. We don't usually recommend shooting any numbers below 50. You'll still want to get some tests in tonight because of the depot. I'd test in 20 to 30 minutes to start with to make sure she's coming up. Molly earned a reduction to 0.5 units with that 27.
     
  12. Christie & Maverick

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    I see you have a +1 now, with that HC food on board, you have a carb-influenced number. The HC will wear off, can delay your shot and you retest in 1/2 hour and see where she is at?
     
  13. Adrienne & Molly

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    Yes, I can retest I'm concerned she doesn’t eat when I’m home at lunch. Do you think why she drops low? She’d rather stay in bed and sleep.
     
  14. Christie & Maverick

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    The 27 seems a bit out of place, even if she didn't eat at lunch, but then you've had a few tests like that, it is possible you aren't getting enough blood for the meter, those FSL meters can be a bit finicky, in my experience when not enough blood sample is registered.
     
  15. Adrienne & Molly

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    She’s going up do I give insulin?
     
  16. Christie & Maverick

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    What is your last test please? And just so I'm clear, since the timeline seems off from when you posted PMPS and +1, when you tested and got 27 you fed HC?

    It would be a good idea to make notes on your SS when you feed low numbers and what percent carb so you (and those who try and offer help) can see at a quick glance.
     
  17. Adrienne & Molly

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    I got home and tested her she was 27. I fed her HC and rested. She has gone this low before on Christmas day
     
  18. Christie & Maverick

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    Thank you for clarifying, so at this point, you are off schedule by 1 1/2 hours, so you will need to ensure you can adjust your shot time tomorrow a.m. and into the next few cycles until you get back on schedule. Are you able to do that? You won't be able to shoot normal time, you will have to adjust...see here http://www.felinediabetes.com/FDMB/threads/getting-back-on-a-12-12-shot-schedule.101059/

    If you shoot tonight, it will be reduced dose, 0.5u. Please get a +1 and +2 and I will watch for you, I can stay with you up until +3. Your choice.
     
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    Yes, I can get a +1 and +2 and +3. I’ll reduce back to 0.5 u. So an hour from now I’ll test :) thank you for staying up.
     
  20. Bron and Sheba (GA)

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    Hi Adrienne, Christie asked if I could look in on you.
    Mollie is a beautiful girl...I am very partial to ginger kitties.
    Just to clarify........
    The PMPS was 27, you fed HC food, then 1 hour later it was 146, then you gave the shot of insulin when the BG was 214 (11.9) which was 1 1/2 hours after the original PMPS.
    If that is correct, could you adjust the SS to say in the PMPS column:
    27@+12
    146@+13
    214@+13.5
    Stack them on top of each other like this in the PMPS column.
    You might also put in the remarks column that you fed HC food when the number was 27. Thanks.
    You may need to test past +3 to make sure Molly doesn't decide to drop again...even though you have reduced the dose, the depot from the previous dose will influence this cycle.
     
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  22. Adrienne & Molly

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    Ok, I’ll fix the SS tomorrow at work on my computer. I use my iPhone and iPad at home.
    Just to clarify I give Molly her shot tomorrow @ 7am depending on BG. Then 6:30 for PMPS and 6am the next morning back to normal time?
     
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  23. Adrienne & Molly

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    Yes, correct and thank you for checking in on me :)
     
  24. Bron and Sheba (GA)

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    You can only go back 1/2 hour a day or 15 minutes a cycle.
     
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  25. Adrienne & Molly

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    ok I understand now
     
  26. Christie & Maverick

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    Just a suggestion, you might want to give some LC food now, if I recall correctly, Molly's last meal was 3.5 hours ago?
     
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    Yes, I’ll feed her some LC
     
  28. Bron and Sheba (GA)

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    I see 11.4 in the SS for +1
    I think a snack would be a good idea.
     
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    She just ate her snake LC food :)
     
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    Not too steep a drop, but I'd feed some more LC now, and see you again at +3 :)
     
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  32. Bron and Sheba (GA)

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    I agree. I would feed another l c snack and test again +3
    Looks like this will be an active cycle, so put the coffee pot on.:coffee:
     
  33. Adrienne & Molly

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    Ok, I’m going to have to get some shut eye I work in the morning.
     
  34. Bron and Sheba (GA)

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    I think you may need to set the alarm and get some later tests in. Let’s see what +3 is. How does that sound?
     
  35. Adrienne & Molly

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    Ok, my DH gets up at 4 I’ll probably get up with him.
     
  36. Bron and Sheba (GA)

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    What time is it now? I know we are heading towards +3 but when you say 4am, what is that in + hours?
     
  37. Adrienne & Molly

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    It’s almost 10:30pm here now. 4am would be +10.
     
  38. Christie & Maverick

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    +3 will tell you a little more, let's see how that is.
     
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  39. Bron and Sheba (GA)

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    Let’s see what +3 is but you may need to get a test in between +3 and +10 to keep Molly safe
     
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  40. MrWorfMen's Mom

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    Oh man. Just catching up on Molly's adventure. When Molly sends a message she doesn't mess around. So glad Christie and Bron are here to help. :)
     
  41. Adrienne & Molly

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    Yes, I was quite surprised when I came home and tested. I’m happy to have Christie and Bron helping. I’m glad you’re checking in on Molly too :)
     
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  43. Bron and Sheba (GA)

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    142. Well you do have an active cycle on your hands.
    You could leave it until +5 to test but I wouldn't leave it longer than that.
    Could you set the alarm for 2 hours? Would you wake up?
    If it is still dropping at +5 you could abort the cycle so you could get some sleep, but even then I would test at +10.
    What do you think @MrWorfMen's Mom
    @Christie & Maverick
    I didn't sleep much last night and my mind is a bit foggy and it's only 4.45 pm.
     
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  44. Adrienne & Molly

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    I’ll test in 15 min that’ll be +5 go from there. She had another LC snack.
     
  45. Christie & Maverick

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    Another little drop, enough again that I'd feed again. It's not super drastic, still within 20% from +2, looking at Molly's SS I see similar cycles. Molly may flatten out by +5 and surf. I'd be tempted to offer some higher LC here.
     
  46. Adrienne & Molly

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    She’s eating more food. Test her in 20 min
     
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  47. Christie & Maverick

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    The other option as Bron mentioned is set a timer for +5 and catch a quick cat nap. I've done that on occasion too, just to be sure numbers have flattened. Not ideal, I realize...the alarm for wake up to go to work comes pretty quickly on nights like these.
     
  48. Bron and Sheba (GA)

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    How can we almost be at +5 when we were waiting for +3 35 minutes ago
     
  49. Christie & Maverick

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    Agreed, perhaps that was meant to say +3.5?
     
  50. Adrienne & Molly

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    Ya your right another 1/2 hour :)
     
  51. Christie & Maverick

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    I'll watch for one more test then I'll need to sign off...my alarm for wake up is in 6 hours :)
     
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  52. Bron and Sheba (GA)

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    @Christie & Maverick I have to go out in 1/2 hour and will be driving the car for 30 mins then going out to dinner, but I can look in after the drive and check periodically
    Can you check the next test in 30 mins if I can't please? I know you have to go to bed then..
    My main concern is that the depot is very full with that drop to 27 and this cycle will be influenced by that depot and Molly could drop lower later in the cycle.
     
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  54. Adrienne & Molly

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    115 I’m going to bed but I’ll get up in 2 hours to test. I left food out for her.
     
  55. Christie & Maverick

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    That's around where I thought she'd be, yes, good plan to leave food for her, and recheck. She is having an interesting cycle, still safe but worth monitoring. Sorry it's affecting your sleep :(
     
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  56. Adrienne & Molly

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    I want her safe, I’ll retest in a couple hours. Thanks for staying up with me :)
     
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  57. Christie & Maverick

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    You could also prop her up a bit with some higher LC like something 6-9%. Just a thought.
     
  58. Bron and Sheba (GA)

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    I’ll look in in2 hours from now.
     
  59. Adrienne & Molly

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    Sorry I didn’t wake up :eek:. I just tested her and in an hour I’ll test again for AMPS.
     
  60. Christie & Maverick

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    Glad to see she's doing fine, I happened to wake up around your +6, you need a barky neighbour's dog who is out yapping at 2:00 in the morning...that'll wake you up :rolleyes:
     
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  61. Adrienne & Molly

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    Lol DH woke me up before him going to work. So I got up a little earlier, but I’m happy she’s doing fine. Thank you and @Bron and Sheba (GA) for helping me last night. :)
     
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    I don't know if this will help, but if you install Google Sheets and Google Drive on your iPhone, you can update the spreadsheet from that instead of a computer. When I found that out it made things a lot easier.
    Anyway, best of luck with the blood sugar levels
     
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  63. Bron and Sheba (GA)

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    I checked a few times and thought you must have slept through.
    I’m glad she was ok.
     
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  64. Adrienne & Molly

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    I have the google docs on my phone and ipad. But I'll see about the google drive and hopefully that'll help. Thank you :)
     
  65. Adrienne & Molly

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    I'm glad she was ok too. Thanks again for your help. She didn't touch her food that I left out or her. She ate it when I got up.
     

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