11/07 Boomer AMPS 338 +3 304 +9 313 PMPS 292 +3 131 Allen home from the vet

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  1. Judy and Boomer

    Judy and Boomer Well-Known Member

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    Boomer ate the usual last night, waking us around 3:30 (+8.5) because he was hungry but didn't want to eat his +6 fuds (although he would if we got up and stirred them). Today I'm changing the timer of his auto feeder so that his +9 will actually be available at +8.5.

    Boomer's drop yesterday surprised me; although he does occasionally work the juice the day of the increase, it's more usual for it to be the following day. He knew, of course, that both DH and I would be away at the same time (for a short period of time). Cats!

    Allen ate well last night. His b/w results are back; he has pancreatitis.....Spec fPL 11.5 normal range is 0.0 - 3.5 ug/L
    He is also anemic ......Hemoglobin 78 normal range 103 - 162 g/L
    I believe the kidney disease is stable but I'm not good at reading these reports so I'll be questioning Dr Larry further about this.
    He's not feeling well this morning. He was laying in his little bed when I opened his door this morning. He felt cold to me so I got a hot water bottle, put it under a blanket on the bed and put him beside it. He wasn't responding to me much at all although I don't get the impression he's in pain (he's stretched out, not meat loafing ). When I took his breakfast in to him I put it on the bed right beside him; I didn't expect him to respond but then I saw his nose move as he smelled the food and he got up and started eating.

    Our little guy has a lot going on and we may have to say goodbye soon.

    Tomorrow is DH's appt with the oncologist-radiologist. We have to be there at 9:15 (+2.25).
     
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  2. carfurby

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    I hope Boomer clears the bounce soon. Sending prayers for Allen and your DH. :bighug::bighug::bighug:
     
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  3. Kris & Teasel

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    Poor you, Judy - a lot going on. Have some of these: :bighug::bighug::bighug::bighug:
     
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  4. Judy and Boomer

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    Thanks Kris; I need those!
     
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    Thanks Carla.
     
  6. JoyBee&Ravan

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    Nice to see Boomer back in blue & a bit of green.:)
    But I'm so sorry Allen isn't feeling well. At least he's eating!

    Hope your day goes well :):bighug:
     
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    :bighug::bighug::bighug:
    What will be done for Allen's anemia? How old is he now?

    Boomer is giving you a hard time with his food. :rolleyes:
     
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    Hugs and prayers sent to you, DH and Allen :bighug::bighug::bighug::bighug::bighug::bighug::bighug:
     
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  9. Beth 73

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    Judy, I am dealing with a civvie with anemia as well...will be interested to see what Dr Larry reccomends
     
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    :bighug::bighug::bighug::bighug: Judy. Is there a plan for treating the anemia and p'titis?
     
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  11. Judy and Boomer

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    Allen perked up a bit after he received his fluids and actually purred loudly when given scritches. So I updated Dr Larry and asked if a day on iv fluids would help and he agreed it would. So we're taking Allen in now.

    +3 304
     
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  12. Judy and Boomer

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    Not yet; Dr Larry is consulting a specialist because he doesn't know what would be causing the anemia. And we haven't actually spoke yet about the p'titis.
     
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  13. tiffmaxee

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    Sorry about the pancreatitis but hopefully the meds will get Allen back on track to feeling well. I hope he gets daily cerenia for nausea and bupe for pain if needed. Advanced kidney disease can cause anemia. If the anemia is nonregenerative there’s medication in the form of weekly shots that can be given. You wouldn’t want to start them until the HCT is under 20% so if higher than that B vitamins can help. If the CKD is not advanced the cause of the anemia needs to be found. Perhaps a bleed from straining to poop? Anemia will definitely tank the appetite. I hope Dr. Larry and the specialist figure it out quickly.

    Good luck tomorrow for DH too. :bighug:
     
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  14. Judy and Boomer

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    Thank you JoyBee!
     
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    Thanks Elise!
     
  16. Judy and Boomer

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    I don't really have any more info about Allen yet....at least none that makes sense to me :rolleyes:

    Dr Larry spoke to a specialist which, according to his email, was going to be about the anemia. But then Dr Larry indicated that
    "A simple review of pancreatitis would have told me that it's usually accompanied by anemia". So I'm assuming he didn't talk to her about that. Not sure what they talked about but whatever it was caused him to look back at Allen's previous tests and the ultrasound....and the write up about the ultrasound indicated "small pancreatic mass". This is what we believed to be an Insulinoma (even though they are rare) because of Allen's hyperglycaemia. Now...it's like Dr Larry is suggested that this mass could have been pancreatitis instead....I didn't think pancreatitis took the form of a mass? Would/could they mistake a mass as cancer when it was really pancreatitis? idk.

    Since we didn't get Allen into the clinic until after 10:00, Dr Larry wants to keep him until 7:00. So DH will have to pick Allen up because t/f/s is at 7:00 so I'll have to be here to give Boomer his shot. This is not ideal but it is what it is.
     
  17. Kris & Teasel

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    Can an inflamed area of the pancreas look like a mass on the ultrasound?
     
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  18. Idjit's mom

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    Sending healing energies to Allen, Boomer and DH. Peaceful calming vibes to you as you deal with so many issues. :bighug::bighug::bighug:
     
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  19. Judy and Boomer

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    Thank you Lou!
     
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    Sending lots of :bighug::bighug::bighug::bighug:
     
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  21. tiffmaxee

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    Max had chronic pancreatitis for years and a couple of acute attacks and was never anemic. Nothing I’ve read about pancreatitis mentions anemia. Maybe it’s time to take Allen to the specialist. A mass might explain everything.
     
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  22. Rosie & Bailey

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    Judy, you have so much going on. Prayers and vines for DH's appointment tomorrow.
    Hope you figure out what's going on with Allen and that Boomer gives you some nice stable blues and greens so you can focus on Allen and DH for now.
    Hugs for you as you take of everyone around you.:bighug::bighug::bighug::bighug::bighug:
     
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  23. Judy and Boomer

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    Well, we've known for 1.5 years that he has a mass on his pancreas. We were told it was likely an insulinoma...although they are rare it would certainly explain his hyperglycaemia.

    idk but when I googled "pancreatitis and anemia in cats" I do see a few articles indicating that cats with pancreatitis are sometimes anemic".
    Allen has so many issues going on, it's hard to figure out what symptom is related to what disease.
     
  24. Judy and Boomer

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    Thank you!
     
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  25. Judy and Boomer

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    Thank you!
     
  26. Judy and Boomer

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    Thank you everyone for your thoughts, ideas, info, prayers, and hugs! :bighug::bighug::bighug::bighug::bighug: There is a lot going on here right now; I'm keeping it together but sometimes I really feel close to the edge :blackeye::(
     
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    +9 313 Surfing the stinky pinks today. :p
     
  29. Tracey&Jones

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    My vet indicated that anything the is ongoing or chronic like pancreatitis, IBD or CKD can cause anemia. She figures that is why Jones is anemic. Though my vet indicated along with his IM that there was nothing we could do to assist outside of relieving the underlying issue. Which to me sounded like a big circle of we can't do much at this point in time.

    Good luck with the oncologist. Take a note pad or something to record the conversation. Tons of info might be coming your way and it can be a lot that hits you right away.
     
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  30. Judy and Boomer

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    Thanks Tracey! Yes, I have a folder with various pamphlets etc in it that we've been given during the other appointments, along with a notepad and pen.
     
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  32. LizzieInTexas

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    Gizmo has pancreatitis, ckd and anemia. Unknown reason for anemia but we are treating with Epogen (erythropoiesis stimulating agent or ESA) with very good results.

    Whole bunch of info here
    http://www.felinecrf.org/anaemia.htm

    Per my IM the treatment is the same regardless of which type.
     
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  33. Bobbie And Bubba

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    Oh Judy! You have just too much going on right now. I did not realize that Allen was in the hospital.......I am glad that Lizzie shared some information with you and I hope that it helps. I don't know anything about his condition.

    Sending you lots of hugs and vines for DH, Allen and for Boomer to behave when he knows that both momma and daddy are out of the house!

    Yo, dude, not cool going too low when no ones in the house......

    Bubba ~
     
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  34. LizzieInTexas

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    Why? Once I started Gizmo on the Epogen he greatly improved including activity, BG numbers and appetite (including weight gain). What ever is going on right now isn't because he (Gizmo) is anemic.
     
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  35. Judy and Boomer

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    Thanks Bobbie! Allen is just in for the day at my suggestion as he appeared dry even though he's getting 125 ml of fluids twice a day. So Dr Larry puts him on an IV for the day.
     
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  36. Shoeskitty-GA

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    Judy, sending prayers and vines and hugs!
     
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    Vines and prayers for all your bunch! :bighug::bighug::bighug:
     
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  38. Judy and Boomer

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    And Allen is home. He ate today at the vet's (I don't know how much) and he ate a bit when he got home.
    Thanks @LizzieInTexas for the link; I've read through quickly and will definitely need to read more thoroughly tomorrow. And I will be asking Dr Larry about the Epogen.
     
  39. Judy and Boomer

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    Thank you Jill!
     
  40. Judy and Boomer

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    Thanks Sandi!
     
  41. JoyBee&Ravan

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    Sending Healing Energy & Positive thoughts for all of you.:):bighug::bighug::bighug:
     
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  42. Amanda and a Loudogg

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    Oh Judy, you have so much on your plate right now. I'm sending you some big hugs and healing vines for Allen. Good luck with DH's appointment tomorrow!

    :bighug::bighug::bighug:
     
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  43. Ella & Rusty & Stu(GA)

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    Hi Judy, I am so sorry that you are going through all of this. Sending lots of vines for Allen and hoping that his issues can be gotten under control and that the vets will be able to give you a plan to go forward. The uncertainty is not helpful!

    Best of luck to your DH tomorrow. Thinking of you both and sending prayers for a good appointment.
    :bighug::bighug::bighug:

    Boomer, your family is relying on you in this time of stress. Stay steady!
     
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    Thanks Ella!
     
  46. Judy and Boomer

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    Thank you Amanda!
     
  47. Judy and Boomer

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    Thank you JoyBee!
     
  48. Tracey&Jones

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    That is good to know! I will bring that up with his vet.
    Sorry for the hi-jack Judy.
     
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    Wishing your household a gentle day tomorrow.
     
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  50. Wendy&Neko

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    Paws crossed for some answers to help Allen soon.:bighug:

    Looks like Boomer wants another test later tonight. :cool:
     
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  51. Judy and Boomer

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    Yup, you betcha I tested again! :D
     
  52. Judy and Boomer

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    Thank you Susan!
     
  53. Judy and Boomer

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    That's quite ok @Tracey&Jones , my vet also says to treat the pancreatitis with fluids and that will take care of the anemia. I'm compiling a list of questions etc but need to read Tanya's article again first.
     
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  54. Nicole Z

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    I’m so behind on what’s going on with everyone but just wanted to send vines and prayers
     
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  55. tiffmaxee

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    True but this is I believe the first bout with pancreatitis I thought.
     
  56. Teresa & Buddy

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    Kris, do you remember when Buddy had a partial pancreatomy last year. The doctor took him to surgery saying he saw a mass, which turned out to be his inflamed pancreas. After that I have seen articles saying that an inflamed pancreas can be seen on an US as a mass.
     
  57. Joanne&TinySole

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    You've a lot on your plate.
    I send loving energy to you, DH, Allen and Boomer. We are rooting for all of you. ❤
     
  58. Amanda & Shmee

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    So sorry to hear about Allen and DH. So many hugs to you Judy. :bighug::bighug::bighug: That must be so stressful, I can’t imagine.
     
  59. Kris & Teasel

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    Yes, I remember that, Teresa. I hope Buddy is doing well.
     
  60. Teresa & Buddy

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    Buddy, has just got over a pancreatitis flare and I am hoping the pancreatitis stays away.
    How is Teasel doing.
     
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    He's doing well. :)
     

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