12/20 Boomer OTJ Trial Day 3 AMBG 99 PMBG 92 bad news from ultrasound

Judy and Boomer

Judy and Boomer

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Good morning!
AMBG 99 :D

I got up at 1:30 last night to try to get Boomer to eat. He wouldn't even take a nibble so I gave him some liver shake. He did take a few bites of food after that and he ate 2 pieces of chicken. The plates of food I left him at his auto feeder remained untouched.

This morning he did eat a bit of food then I gave him about 6 ml liver shake. Bupre. and vitamin B12 (since I forgot it last night) is on board. Mirtz to be given in about half an hour as Dr Larry told me recently that it could be given every 24 hours if needed.

Weight this morning is 16.4 lbs. Normal weight prior to his issue with eating which seemed to begin around Nov 10 was 16.8 lbs.

Waiting to hear from Dr Larry regarding the ultrasound.

Picking up antibiotics today as well as a script for cyproheptadine hopefully. @LizzieInTexas do you know what the wait time between appy stimulants needs to be?

Many many thanks to those offering advice, information, prayers, hugs, and vines!!!!! I'm very worried about my boy.
 
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I can't believe I have to write this note. We got bad news from the ultrasound. My little boy has a large mass in his bowel and the cancer has spread throughout his abdomen. The cancer causes fluid to build up in his abdomen which is what is making him uncomfortable. It is widespread and late stage. We will ask Dr Larry if there's anything that can be done but the Dr that did the ultrasound believes it's too wide spread and all we can do is try to keep him comfortable and eating.
I am in shock. I was not prepared for anything this bad.
 
Oh, Judy, I am so incredibly heartbroken for you. I wish there was more that I could or say, but please know you are in my heart, thoughts, and prayers :bighug::bighug::bighug::bighug::bighug:
 
Oh gosh Judy. I'm so very sorry about this disturbing report. Many hugs:bighug::bighug::bighug: Prayer is very powerful, as we all know. I've witnessed miracles, others have too. I'm holding onto hope that a miracle will be provided for Boomer and your family. Prayers for Boomer and your family.:bighug:
 
(((((Judy))))

I am so, so very sorry. I know this is the most heartbreaking and devastating news for you and all of us who love Boomer through FDMB.

Sending Boomer comfort vines that he will eat and not have pain. Sending you love, hugs, and support.
 
Tears and shock. I have tons of empathy for you Judy. At such a sad time, he is still lucky to be in your care . . . still the same beautiful boy he was this morning, before you knew about the cancer. He hasn't had the shock you have had . . . he wants you to continue doing the sweet things for him you were already doing. I hope you can spend time relaxing with your boy, and know that your love will make him feel better. Maybe Dr. Larry will have comfort ideas for Boomer like getting rid of extra fluid if that is an option. He also sounds like the kind of man you might rather talk with concerning hard matters.
 
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:bighug::bighug::bighug::bighug::bighug: Judy. I'm so very sorry to hear this. Having a little cry for you and your handsome little man. Sending scritches for Boomer and prayers you can keep him comfortable and eating. :bighug::bighug::bighug::bighug:
 
I'm so sorry to read this devastating news Judy. I can only imagine what you must be going thru. Know that we are here for you.

I hope Boomer can be comfortable for as long as possible. Sending you hugs this evening...:bighug::bighug::bighug::bighug: Tell Boomer we're all thinking of him.
 
Thank you everyone. I am in total shock along with DH and Dr Larry. None of us expected news this bad. Dr Larry says that Boomer doesn't present as a cat with cancer.

The ultrasound doctor certainly made it sound like Boomer wouldn't be with us for much longer. Yet since we've been home he's been acting pretty normal. And he's been eating small meals of canned tuna, canned ham, and deli chicken. And I couple of days ago I bought him treats, they are by Orijen and they're freeze dried beef, lamb, wild boar, and pork. Nothing else in them. Remembered about them just now and he gobbled up 4 and wanted more. So he got more. They make meals too so I will be buying some tomorrow.

I had a conversation with Dr Larry. Wondered whether I should keep on syringe feeding as I was afraid it was causing Boomer discomfort. Larry indicated that if Boomer didn't mind it to keep it going. So I will. And we'll be picking up more bupre. early next week to ensure we never run out. Mirtizipine will be on board daily if needed.

PMBG 92 And I've decided to officially call this day 3 of the OTJ trial; hopefully when Boomer crosses the bridge he will be able to brag that in almost 6 years of diabetes he went OTJ 4 times.

I feel numb.
 
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Boomer will lead the way, and right now it sounds like he's pretty happy, despite the crappy appy. Is consulting with an oncologist an option? I wonder if they could do a fine needle aspirate and find out exactly what kind of cancer it is, and if maybe it is treatable in some way. Kitties do much better with chemo than humans, since they are treated with remission, rather than a cure, in mind.

We are with you, Judy....all the way.....
 
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Thank you everyone. I am in total shock along with DH and Dr Larry. None of us expected news this bad. Dr Larry says that Boomer doesn't present as a cat with cancer.

The ultrasound doctor certainly made it sound like Boomer wouldn't be with us for much longer. Yet since we've been home he's been acting pretty normal. And he's been eating small meals of canned tuna, canned ham, and deli chicken. And I couple of days ago I bought him treats, they are by Orijen and they're freeze dried beef, lamb, wild boar, and pork. Nothing else in them. Remembered about them just now and he gobbled up 4 and wanted more. So he got more. They make meals too so I will be buying some tomorrow.

I had a conversation with Dr Larry. Wondered whether I should keep on syringe feeding as I was afraid it was causing Boomer discomfort. Larry indicated that if Boomer didn't mind it to keep it going. So I will. And we'll be picking up more bupre. early next week to ensure we never run out. Mirtizipine will be on board daily if needed.

PMBG 92 And I've decided to officially call this day 3 of the OTJ trial; hopefully when Boomer crosses the bridge he will be able to brag that in almost 6 years of diabetes he went OTJ 4 times.

I feel numb.
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Wendy said it best, Boomer doesn't know he has cancer...and until today, you didn't either.

Knowing is good and bad. You don't keep searching for answers, which is good. But it can be very easy to drop into "anticipatory grief", which is bad. Resist that urge, live in the moment just like he is, love him like there is no end.

Our hearts are with you.
 
Oh Judy, I am so sorry about this news. Thinking of you, DH and Boomer:bighug:Give him lots of love and kisses. We’re all here for you❤️
 
Dear Judy, I didn't expect to read this news when I logged on late this evening. I am so sorry that the news wasn't better. Boomer is such a fine kitty and he knows that you love him and he knows that you will do your very best to help him.

Day 3 of your OTJ trial, Deputy Boomer! Give it your best shot :cat:. Your beans love you and so do all of your aunties and uncles on the board.

:bighug::bighug::bighug:
 
Hi Judy,

My heart aches for you. Hugs and love.

Regarding bupre, I don't know what your dosage is, but around here they only prescribe 200mcg/mL; in NS my vet prescribed 800mcg/mL. It is far easier to ensure they get their dose with smaller amounts, so my NS vet prescribed me a long term dose of the higher strength for use as needed; they filled and faxed a form to Summit Pharmacy (compounding pharmacy) in Ontario and they send refills directly to my house. It is far, far cheaper than the local vet. Because it is a small amount, I place it drop by drop on my finger and rub directly on Willows upper (inner) lip/gum, following each drop with a small treat.....she doesn't mind at all, and I know she is getting maximum absorption. May be something you want to consider?

Also, the bupe dosing range is 0.01-0.03 mg/kg every 6-8 hrs (I'm pretty sure that's from Plumb, or possibly Merck). For OTM (oral transmucosal) you should use the upper end of the dosing range. Many vets dose way below an effective level.

You may have seen this, but here is a pain score chart I use for Willow...I used to just go with the obvious (pupils dilated, hunching, etc.) but this catches far more subtle signs. I printed it out, and now automatically pain score her at a glance...4 or above means she gets bupre.

For Cerenia, I order from PetsDrugMart.ca. Fast and only a couple of dollars a pill. For keeping lots on hand, it saves money. They also have cypro, but I haven't tried that yet. I also order fluids, syringes and butterflies there for SQ.

Summit also does mirtz liquid (I get unflavored).

I find injectable ondansetron to work far better for Willow than the oral, but I usually use the oral because I have more on hand and I tend to save the injectable that I do have for more "intense" inappetence.

Thinking of you all with love, Nikki
 
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