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8/24 LT AMPS 158 +2 223 PMPS 115 +1 146 +2 72 +2.5 76 +3 63 +3.25 68 +3.75 89 +4 120

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  1. Suzanne Burton

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  2. Suzanne Burton

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    LT is roaming around in the banana tree. If someone finds him, would you please send him back down to the beach?
     
  3. Tina Marie and Jan

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    I hope you and LT, your dog, and all the rest, have a lovely weekend! I'm spending a lot of time outdoors today, since the temp has come down and it's beautiful out! I still haven't gotten much sleep, but I feel good. Hope you do too:) I keep trying to rest my mind in place of the body, but that won't last forever! I hope LT has a nice day at the beach, or Tiki Hut, and dips his little toes into the water!
     
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  4. Olive & Paula

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    I think he will be making sand castles soon. It probably is a food spike.
     
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  5. Bellasmom

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    Ring it on down there LT
    Hope you have a great weekend Suzanne
     
  6. Suzanne Burton

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    the connector for my laptop charger broke, so I can't use the laptop and am using DH's desktop. Though I'm signed in to Google, it will only let me view and not edit LT's SS - so frustrated. I'll have to post his BGs on the condo title every day.
    UPDATE: DH has a tenuous fix on the charger. If I can get a full charge I will try to add to SS, but will then have to turn computer off and use the desktop. Thanks for your patience.
     
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  7. Red & Rover (GA)

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    Tag Chris. She will know how to log into Google in a way that will let you edit from a different computer.
     
  8. Suzanne Burton

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    @Chris & China (GA) I'm using my DHs computer since the power cord for my laptop is tenuously functioning and may not make it until Tuesday when the new one arrives. Anyways, when I sign onto Google documents, it doesn't recognize me as the owner of LTs SS.WHen I ask it to send a e-mail to the owner, it never gets to my g-mail or the account I actually use for e-mail. I think I can carefully enter the SS info on the other computer, but it could quit at any time.

    This is an "Oh, never mind". I figured out what the problem was.
     
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  9. carfurby

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    Nice blues for LT today.
     
  10. Chris & China (GA)

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    Glad you figured it out!! Once you get into that spreadsheet, you really depend on it, don't you?
     
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  11. Sue and Luci

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    Ah ha!! I see that LT has made it to the lagoon!! Good job LT! Maybe he and Luci were surfing together - she went out there for a while...but then landed back up on the beach - mama and DH took some time to go shopping at a boutique and high tea at a nice restaurant nearby. So nice to get out for a while :) Enjoy your weekend Suzanne!
     
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    I'm spoiled by the spread sheet. It gives such a vivid picture of what's going on overall. I didn't get to go to high tea, but my husband and I did go for a nice hike, about 2 miles, on the hills behind our house.
     
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  13. Sue and Luci

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    And as you get more data, the puzzle gets even more of the blanks filled in and you'll wonder how you were ever going to navigate this without that SS! I love seeing how Luci's trends are...sometimes not what I'd hoped for...but it's sure obvious when she needs a kick in her fuzzy little butt to get her moving in the right direction again...it'll all become very clear soon!

    I think I should have gone on a 2-mile hike as well...would have been healthier and less calories! But I have to say, with all the glasses and silverware, etc. it was a lovely break from the usual...and shopping in a boutique is quite out of the norm for me too! Woo hoo! :)
     
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    LT dipped his toe into the lagoon and decided to head back to the beach and look for Tiki Hut. Sue, that just sounds like a lovely afternoon. Where we live, there isn't even a place for high tea:rolleyes::).
     
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    Anyone available to help?
     
  17. carfurby

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    Are you able to stay up tonight and monitor and do you have plenty of supplies? If you are able to and have supplies, you can shoot the full dose. I won't be able to stay up all night with you.
     
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  18. Red & Rover (GA)

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    Can you stall without feeding?
    I'm not experienced enough to advise on this one - out of my comfort zone.
    Just seeing who is online. It's been a bit crazy.
     
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  19. Red & Rover (GA)

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    I cannot guarantee when I can be here tonight. I volunteered to be the designated driver for my kid and his friends who are attending a wedding.
     
  20. Suzanne Burton

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    Yes, I didn't feed until 8:15 this a.m. and was trying to move him up today. I just don't want to feed and let the food get way ahead.
     
  21. Suzanne Burton

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    Your kid and her friends are fortunate to have you and smart to set up a DD.
     
  22. Tina Marie and Jan

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    Hi Suzanne. I keep studying your spreadsheet, and keep thinking to shoot the regular dose. That's provided you stay up and potentially lose a lot of sleep.
    Look at the normal rise after PMPS. You also have good momentum now. The lowest LT has been on this dose, that you caught is 81.
    Just some thoughts. (Or you could skip, or shoot a half dose.)
     
  23. Red & Rover (GA)

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    It may involve more than one trip as I can only take 3 people at a time.

    Can you get another test in?
    I see a +11 115 but no PMPS test. What was the number?

    Tagging @MrWorfMen's Mom to see if she is still online.
     
  24. Chris & China (GA)

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    Was the 115 at +11.75?
     
  25. Suzanne Burton

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    @Red & Rover (GA) I was using the +11.75 as the PMPS because it was so close and I was trying to move him back towards 7:30. @Chris & China (GA) Ok. I think we'll go ahead and give him the 0.75. I understand the syringe is in my hand. Thanks so much for your input.
     
  26. Tina Marie and Jan

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    This isn't easy when you don't have lots of data.
     
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  27. Chris & China (GA)

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    That's what I'd do....of course you know the routine by now too ;)
     
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  28. MrWorfMen's Mom

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    I'm here too but still trying to make sure the low kitty on Health is OK. I'll keep an eye out while I'm online but had a late night last night and am fading fast here.
     
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  29. Chris & China (GA)

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    I think the PMPS you got tonight was probably a "double dip".....Lantus is famous for them.

    It's when the PS is lower than a test you get after the nadir....but it's higher than the nadir was!

    LT's nadir was 81...then he went up to 127 and dipped down again to 115 (higher than the nadir but lower than the +10)....so he "double dipped"

    You've graduated from Lantus 101....Double dipping is Lantus 201
     
  30. Suzanne Burton

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    I know he starts climbing now after food so I'll start with checks at 2 and 3.
     
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  31. Suzanne Burton

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    Hanging in - food bump has begun.
     
  32. Suzanne Burton

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    I just fed LT 1 tsp LC -getting close to 68. Will check again in 20 min. Do I feed HC once if he goes below 68? Found the answer. Will give HC if he goes below the 68. Looking back at the other times and I think I can do this. Will 911 if I goes south too fast.
     
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    +2.5 = 76, gave 1 more tsp. LC; can I give 2 tsp. to hold him longer or is best to give 1 tsp at a time? @MrWorfMen's Mom
     
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  34. MrWorfMen's Mom

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    You can give him 2 "light" tsps. but I wouldn't go over that. You don't want to fill him up when it looks like he may need some steering tonight.
     
  35. Suzanne Burton

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    Thanks I just needed a little reassurance. I'm coming up on my next test and will post.
     
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  36. Tina Marie and Jan

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    Still good and safe.
    Linda, would you consider a bit of MC in a situation like this, late at night, or is it a lot better to steer at the low, but good, number?
     
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  37. MrWorfMen's Mom

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    Whether to pull out the MC or even HC is really up to the individual. We all strive to keep these sweeties surfing as long as possible without shooting their BG to the moon. But obviously if the caregiver needs sleep or is heading out the door (because we all know the great timing these furkids have) then pulling out higher carb food is totally fine.

    ETA - Some of this decision comes from knowing your own cat. Some cats need MC/HC for steering while others are fine with LC.
     
  38. Suzanne Burton

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    +3 =63; gave heaping tsp. HC
     
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  39. Suzanne Burton

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    When talking MC and HC, I remember reading the carbs in each, but I'm just not able to find it. Can you tell me the numbers for each?
     
  40. MrWorfMen's Mom

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    Looks like somebody just earned a reduction. :)
     
  41. MrWorfMen's Mom

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    MC is 11% to about 15% and above 15% is HC.
     
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    I'm giving him a FF gravy lovers which is about 15% carbs.
     
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  43. Tina Marie and Jan

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    You put what I was thinking into perfect words! Plus my experience is quite limited - thanks so much.
     
  44. Suzanne Burton

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    I have a FF that is 20%, but he usually responds well to what I am giving him now. @MrWorfMen's Mom, would I reduce to a dose of 0.5U?
     
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    I'll be checking again in 10 minutes.
     
  46. Tina Marie and Jan

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    Oops, @MrWorfMen's Mom
    Suzanne, you typed man instead of men.

    I believe the .5 in the morning is correct.
    Unless he's still low, as in too low to shoot. Are you good?
     
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  47. MrWorfMen's Mom

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    You got it. Tomorrow's AM dose would be 0.5u.
     
  48. Suzanne Burton

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    +3.25 68 - gave 1 more tsp. MC/HC
     
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    Yes, I'm good! Thanks everyone.
     
  50. Tina Marie and Jan

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    I feel for you and Liz tonight! Congrats on the reduction - reducie - though!
     
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  51. Suzanne Burton

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    Yes, Tina, the Fig and LT are certainly keeping their sugarmoms on their toes.
     
  52. Tina Marie and Jan

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    I'm up for at least another 40 minutes even though Tina was higher than I'd expected at +5.
    I could be in your shoes any day;) now.
     
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  53. Suzanne Burton

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    Up to 89. I decided not to give any more food and see what happens.
     
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  54. MrWorfMen's Mom

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    Sounds like a plan. Looks like that 15% finally kicked in. If you're Ok, I'm gonna call it a night. Congrats on the reducie!

    Sweet dreams all!
     
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  55. Suzanne Burton

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    I'll be up a while longer, but to y'all, "sleep tight and don't let the bed bugs bite." Thanks one and all! LT says thanks for all of the extra chow!
     
  56. Tina Marie and Jan

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    In looking again at your SS, tonight has been great the way I see it. You went just 5 points below 68, instead of into very low numbers. Way to go LT. Now lets see a nice, natural rise so somebody can get a little rest!
     
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  57. Chris & China (GA)

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    They all love that gravy!!!

    You did great tonight!!…..and although I know you've got to be tired of all the late night shenanigans, LT looks like he might be working his way down the dose ladder pretty quickly!!

    LT...hop on your surfboard buddy and hang 10!
     
  58. Suzanne Burton

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    +4 120; looks like I overshot a bit; one more at +4.5. and then maybe to bed.
     
  59. Tina Marie and Jan

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    Staying safe is key, next go-round, you'll have your feeding notes from this time, and will be even more prepared. I hope you and LT can fall fast asleep pretty soon.
     
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    + 5.5=172 - Nighty-night everyone! Thanks again from LT and his hoomin.
     
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  61. Sue and Luci

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    Hi Suzanne! I see you guys had a late night last night. I just wanted to make a suggestion about a good way to know what carb is what when you're in a situation like you were last night. It's better to just write it on the bottom of your cans so when things are crazy you're not trying to remember what's what. Here's a pic of my higher carb foods. These are all Fancy Feast cans:

    catFoodCans.jpg
     
  62. Suzanne Burton

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    Thanks @Tina Marie and Jan I'll definitely mark the cans like you showed. When LT drops, I go into high gear and don't have to time to fiddle with carb levels. Oops, I should have thanked @Sue and Luci for the great idea. I guess I'm a bit short on sleep and not paying good attention.o_O I better drink more :coffee:.
     
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  63. Tina Marie and Jan

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    Sue is the one who has those cans marked! Excellent to do that ahead of time. I did make a hypo tool kit basket, and have FF gravy lovers, and a mid carb food, which I need to get more of. I think Liz has her cans marked too. Good morning sunshine!
     
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