Cosequin v dasequin or other arthritis supplements

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Vyktors Mum

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I have heard of people using cosequin with diabetic cats but not so much dasequin. The manufacturer is the same and they claim dasequin is better but it contains soy protein. Is this okay?

Would like to hear about people's experiences with these products and/or anything else they have found effective (and palatable, this cat cannot be pilled) for arthritis.

Thank you
 
I believe most use cosequin for diabetic cats and for cats in general. Personally, I don't use it and use other products that contain the same ingredients - glucosamine, chondroitin, MSM.... one product I use that my non-diabetic loves - because it tastes like bacon is from Vitacost -- http://www.vitacost.com/vitacost-tag-arthropower-tm-for-pets-with-glucosamine-chondroitin-msm

It does have sugar, so may not be best for diabetics, but it contains the same ingredients as cosequin. Plus it's a treat, not a pill. I break the wafer into 4 pieces and my cat loves it.
 
Hi Serryn. Our vet has had good success with Blackmores Paw Osteosupport and I started my Lucy on it a few weeks ago. It is a capsule you open and put the powder in food and my Lucy loves the taste. It is green lipped mussel extract so it must taste fishy and good. :)
 
There is also a product for cats made by the same company that makes cosequin called jointguard for cats as I think we may not be able to buy cosequin here in Australia. I chose to go with osteosupport as green lipped mussel is supposed to be beneficial for diabetes too.
 
I use Cosequin for Cats since it is relatively readily available and is not that expensive. It really helped my MurrFee. Almost too much since now he can jump on the counter.
 
Bailey has been on Cosequin for the past year and I have seen no improvement,but as they say Every Cat is Different! I was at my vet yesterday seeing if Bailey could have Adequin injections for his arthritis,I have done some research and it seems it's getting good results with cats,unfortunately it is not available in the UK,my vet tells me it's licensed for use only in the USA.
 
Thanks peoples.

Tempting as it sounds to feed the medicine as a treat I think I best avoid the Vitacost product containing sugar, I'm also very hesitant to give a formula that isn't specifically for cats. It's possible that Vyktor got his diabetes in the first place from me giving him a human glucosamine/chrondroitan/msm mix.

I saw cosequin/dasuquin on an internet site and thought I would be able to order them but it sounds like that might not be the case. I sent them a query on shipping costs and they've highlighted that I need to speak to customs here. Given that I'm not allowed to imported tinned cat food, pill pockets or even syringes I suspect I'm going to have a problem.

Thanks for the Aussie tips Voula, much as I think the human glucosamine product I gave him may have been responsible for his diabetes he did show improvement so I'm going to try the joint guard. I had found that one some time ago (it's site mentions the possible connection between human formula and diabetes in cats) and it was what I set out to look for yesterday but I had forgotten the name and couldn't find it.

Really annoyed to hear that the adequan is only available in the US as I had it in the back of my mind that would be the next step if supplements don't do the trick :mad:
 
Hi Serryn - Neko's got arthritis and Adequan isn't available in Canada but we can get cartrophen as can you. I went through a number of options in post #8, 23, and 26 to another member from Australia here.
 
Other supplements not listed on that other thread are hyaluronic acid (HA) and Duralactin. I get the HA in a product called Hyaflex, but I've seen it in other pet arthritis supplements too. Hyaflex is one recommended by Neko's acupuncture vet. For some reason the Hyaflex website itself is down right now - it has more information there. I'm in week two of a Duralactin trial - not seeing a lot of change although I saw some reviews said it took a few weeks. I have one month of the capsules and I'll decide at the end whether to get more.
 
Re the conversation with vet on Friday,he said in the UK they are using Cartrophen (Wendy mentioned this above) with good results on dogs,he knows of it being given to cats for UTI infections.He is looking into it over the weekend,as he says he wants to be sure of the right dose for cats,and also to check that it won't raise his bg levels.
Will let you know what he comes back with.
 
@BaileyUK - Diane - Neko gets Cartrophen and it doesn't raise her BG levels. She just had a cartophen shot yesterday afternoon and nadired in the 70's overnight. :D My civie has also had it for his idiopathic cystitis. My Buster (GA) also got it for his arthritis and it helped him too. It's given fairly commonly in Canada to cats. I believe it's also dosed on a weight based formula. Neko is, ahem, around 6.7kg and gets 0.2cc. Ligher weight civie got less. It must be kept in the fridge and used within a week of being put in a syringe. I get the vet to preload it in an insulin syringe for me, which I take home and administer myself subq.
 
Hello Wendy,nice of you to reply,Baileys bg numbers are not good at the moment,I have just posted on the Lantus forum to ask for some advice (hope if you have the time you will take a look) I spoke to the vet on Thursday to see if he could have some medication for arthritis as I was wondering if this could be the cause of his high numbers,we haven't had X-rays to confirm arthritis,but when he goes to lie down he lowers himself very slowly,and he does seem a little stiff,it's a stab in the dark but thought it was worth a try as vet says he has no idea why his numbers are on the rise.
Many thanks Wendy,the info is reassuring.hope you and yours are all well. Diane
 
Personal experience, I had been using Cosequin and Shasta tolerated it. Then I bought some Dasuquin because I heard the same...it was better. Shasta HATED the taste....more so than the Cosequin. I ended up taking it to the Humane Society...don't know if they used it or pitched it. I'm back to Cosequin and she's hit or miss as to whether she "likes" it or not. Finicky cat!!!! Oh, and as far as I have even noticed, it does not affect her BG...don't know if that's been discussed or not, but figured I would throw that out there. Good luck.
 
I gave one of my civvies (with bad arthritis) Cosequin, and he seemed to do well on that for a long time.

But these days I give my oldies (with mild joint stiffness) 250mg of krill oil in their food every morning.
A couple of them really like the krill oil; but the other doesn't so she gets hers with a generous sprinkling of crushed treats.
When I remember, I also add a hefty pinch of curcumin (turmeric extract).

Really hoping you find something that works for your boy...

Hugs,

Eliz
 
Thanks Eliz :)

So far so good, I got the joint guard and he is accepting it in his food. Now only time will tell...
 
Is there any joint supplement that's diabetic friendly and a powder form? My youngest has a clicking ankle and I'd like to see if that would help but figure it wouldn't be bad to add that to Hidey's diet since he's 14
 
Fish oil isn't a powder, but it can help with arthritis. Check with your vet. Test a small dose first.
 
The joint guard is in a powder form, Vyktor is accepting it in his food and it has worked wonders already he is so much more mobile :cat:
 
Rudy has improved on cosequin (open capsule and mix in his food), zobaline (crush pill and mix in his food) and omega 3. All were recommended to me on this board and doesn't interfere with diabeties. My vet also mentioned dasaquin, but it was way more expensive and only with a prescription I believe.
 
BJM said:
Fish oil isn't a powder, but it can help with arthritis. Check with your vet. Test a small dose first.
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They already get a fish oil supplement because of Hidey's dry skin....would another supplement like cosequin be overkill? Should I avoid giving it to Hidey?
 
Thanks everyone. I will look into the joint guard and cosequin. The clicking doesnt seem to be painful to him but I figure it wouldnt hurt to try to avoid it lol. He hurt it some how a few years ago but was fine the next day......obviously it did something.
 
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