Merrick canned food values

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  1. majandra

    majandra Well-Known Member

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    Posting this on my phone so I have no format. This was a response to an email I sent requesting carb values. They said NFE is carbs. I'm not sure how the carbs match the spreadsheet, but proteins and fats don't.
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    Canned Cat Food - PURRFECT BISTRO




    Sample Description

    Protein

    Fat

    NFE

    Unit Basis

    %

    %

    %

    Turkey Pâté

    11.30

    5.08

    0.99

    Chicken Pâté

    11.00

    8.64

    0.60

    Salmon Pâté

    11.10

    7.94

    0.67

    Tuna Pâté

    11.80

    7.92

    1.06

    Duck Pâté

    10.20

    8.70

    1.75

    Beef Pâté

    12.10

    6.01

    1.26

    Chicken Casserole

    11.30

    5.07

    3.05

    Tuna Niçoise

    10.80

    3.86

    2.82

    Beef Wellington

    11.50

    4.50

    2.07

    Chicken Divan

    11.10

    4.77

    3.37

    Grammy's Pot Pie

    10.10

    8.96

    1.98

    Cowboy Cookout

    11.04

    3.67

    4.49

    Thanksgiving Day Dinner

    10.10

    8.96

    1.98

    Turducken

    10.10

    8.96

    1.98

    Surf and Turf (Pâté)

    11.20

    6.12

    1.28

    Savory Trout Dinner

    9.62

    4.19

    1.57

    Tuna & Tilapia Pâté

    14.25

    4.59

    1.02

    Rabbit Pâté

    10.69

    7.88

    0.98

    Kitten Dinner Pâté

    10.15

    7.48

    2.81

    Pouch Cat Food




    Purrfect Bistro Gourmet Shreds Oven Roasted Chicken Recipe

    11.13

    6.03

    3.14

    Purrfect Bistro Gourmet Shreds Tender Turkey Recipe

    11.13

    6.29

    3.19

    Purrfect Bistro Gourmet Shreds Real Ocean Whitefish+Tuna Recipe

    11.22

    4.4

    3.60

    Purrfect Bistro Gourmet Shreds Braised Beef Recipe

    11.22

    5.37

    3.53

    Purrfect Bistro Gourmet Shreds Savory Duck Recipe

    11.34

    5.68

    3.60





    Can Cat Food - LID




    Sample Description

    Protein

    Crude Fat

    NFE

    Unit Basis

    %

    %

    %

    Limited Ingredient Diet Grain Free Chicken

    10.30

    9.06

    1.50

    Limited Ingredient Diet Grain Free Duck

    8.24

    14.20

    1.50

    Limited Ingredient Diet Grain Free Salmon

    9.50

    9.38

    1.39

    Limited Ingredient Diet Grain Free Turkey

    10.80

    8.85

    1.39





    Can Cat Food - WEF




    Sample Description

    Protein

    FAT

    NFE

    Unit Basis

    %

    %

    %

    Whole Earth Farms Grain Free Real Chicken Pate

    9.67

    5.31

    2.52

    Whole Earth Farms Grain Free Real Duck Pate

    9.75

    9.87

    1.26

    Whole Earth Farms Grain Free Real Beef Pate

    12.10

    6.01

    1.23

    Whole Earth Farms Grain Free Real Turkey Pate

    11.60

    7.07

    3.51

    Whole Earth Farms Grain Free Real Salmon Pate

    11.20

    7.63

    2.92

    Whole Earths Farm Grain Free Real Tuna & Whitefish Pate

    12.00

    4.83

    3.00

    Whole Earth Farms Grain Free Healthy Kitten Pate

    11.25

    6.34

    3.00

    Whole Earth Farms Grain Free Beef & Turkey Pate

    12.13

    5.73

    3.23

    Whole Earth Farms Grain Free Chicken & Salmon Pate

    12.24

    5.55

    2.32

    Whole Earth Farms Grain Free Chicken & Turkey Pate

    10.99

    6.76

    3.98

    Whole Earth Farm Grain Free Salmon Morsels in Gravy

    8.40

    5.48

    2.79

    Whole Earth Farm Grain Free Chicken Morsels in Gravy

    11.10

    4.77

    3.37

    Whole Earth Farm Grain Free Salmon & Tuna Pate




    Whole Earth Farm Grain Free Beef & Salmon Pate




    Whole Earth Farm Grain Free Turkey Moresels in Gravy




    Whole Earth Farm Grain Free Chicken & Turkey Morsels in Gravy




    Whole Earth Farm Grain Free Duck & Chicken Morsels in Gravy








    Cup Cat Food




    Sample Description

    Protein

    Fat

    NFE

    Unit Basis

    %

    %

    %

    Backcountry Real Chicken Cuts Recipe

    10.51

    5.32

    3.07

    Backcountry Real Turkey Cuts Recipe

    11.01

    5.79

    3.18

    Backcountry Real Rabbit Cuts Recipe

    11.48

    5.04

    3.27

    Backcountry Real Whitefish Cuts Recipe

    10.83

    4.69

    3.64

    Backcountry Real Beef Cuts Recipe

    11.10

    5.46

    3.08

    Backcountry Real Duck Cuts Recipe

    10.92

    5.83

    3.45

    Backcountry Real Chicken + Trout Recipe Cuts

    10.30

    5.59


    Backcountry Real Kitten Recipe Cuts

    10.90

    5.75
     
  2. MrWorfMen's Mom

    MrWorfMen's Mom Well-Known Member

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    The spreadsheet is based on "As fed" values for protein, fat, fibre, moisture and ash. What the company emailed you may have been calculated based on "ingredient" values as they appear on the cans unless you specifically asked for "As Fed" values. I'd go by the spreadsheet rather than the manufacturer.
     
  3. Squeaky and KT (GA)

    Squeaky and KT (GA) Well-Known Member

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    Dr Lisa's list has values that were provided by the company directly to her - I second Linda's comment above...
     
  4. majandra

    majandra Well-Known Member

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    I'd asked for as fed, so guess I didn't get that from the company :/
     
  5. MrWorfMen's Mom

    MrWorfMen's Mom Well-Known Member

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    I am not sure what you got from the company. I did some calculations on the Purrfect Bistro Chicken Pate and the numbers don't seem to match with either the guaranteed ingredients or what is on Dr. Pierson's spreadsheet. Interestingly, Merrick only supplied Protein and Fat figures to you when normally one would include fibre and ash as well after removing moisture content to do an "as fed" calculation of the carbs. My assumption is that Dr. Pierson got all the pertinent component numbers to do her calculations so unless Merrick has changed their formulation, I'd still be inclined to use the spreadsheet values.
     
  6. majandra

    majandra Well-Known Member

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    Ok thank you
     
  7. Candy&Company

    Candy&Company Member

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    I've gotten the run around from Merrick, so I'd use the spreadsheet too honestly - I haven't bought any of their food yet, but I trust Dr. Lisa's interpersonal skills at getting info a lot better than I trust my own. I tend to be nice until it's time to NOT be nice - not that I rage, but when I put on the stern "don't mess with me please" tone, things don't usually go well so I'd go with her on Merrick, again just based on my own limited interactions with them. For some reason this company loves fighting me.
     
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