? 9/9 Gussie bounce? Too soon reduction? PMPS 108,+2 132,3.5 140, +5 139

http://www.felinediabetes.com/FDMB/...s-120-2-115-3-99-4-97-5-93-6-90-7-104.164561/Hi all,
Last note Gussie had what was essentially if I'm reading it right, a flat cycle. Didfferent or at least it seemed different than usual on this dose. Does that indicate he may have a busy morning?
Thanks in advance
Les

 

Usually a flat yellow cycle means action the next cycle, but I've not noticed that with any other colors. I hope Gussie gives you a blue/green surf today.

 

Hey Les,

When kitties get regulated like Gus, the flatness in normal numbers is the perfect Lantus curve. I forget, do you have an auto feeder that you leave snacks for him through the day?

 

I think Gussie has achieved beautiful regulation. Hopefully those preshots will start to come down a bit but I wouldn't be concerned.

 

I agree with the others. When Max spends several days/weeks flat he eventually needs a reduction. Since he's a long term diabetic every time it happens I think it will be the new norm until he surprises me with a low number or occasionally needs an increase . Have a great Friday!

 

Hi

, thanks for getting back to me. I did buy not one but 3 auto feeders ( 3cats, 3 feeders..logical right?) Gus sleeps thru it, one cat runs and hides and the third cat after making sure it's not rigged to explode eats everything ( he's no dainty miss as my grandma used to say so doesn't need a triple ration!
I am his auto feeder!
I can stop by once today but fairly early in the cycle, then I'm away until @ +9.

 

Thanks! Hoping he decides that when I'm home this weekend!

 

Whew! Thanks!

 

That's good to hear! Will take off my worry cap and continue to enjoy these numbers then! Thank you!

 

Sending wishes for a good, safe day to all the Kitties and Beans!

 

Ok I don't know what he was at +3 but it was probably below 57 now. I'm going to give him some LC as I don't want him dropping below 50 while I am back out at work. Thinking he is carrying thru with wanting that reduction... Not such great timing tho..one cycle later would have been helpful!

 

I feel your pain. TiTi is equally inconvenient.
Can you confine Gus to one room, and lock the other 2 out? If so, you can put down some food for him to nosh on. That'll keep him safe.

 

Gave LC raw and Weruva, not still dropping after 30 but

I wish, unfortunately can't. I will try to stay here as long as I can, some teachers of my kids are forgiving, some not so much..

 

He's not really hungry either, just kinda lethargic, worrisome.. Will be switching to some gravy if he doesn't bump up a bit soon...when he decides to dive it's a high dive so need to catch it..he tells me he's ready for a reduction usually pretty emphatically..

 

Not dropping but holding at 57 with LC intervention.,looking kind of weird, so gave him a tsp of FF beef gravy, he's not interested in much else food wise, also very out of charachter

 

Updated the actual timing of the tests

 

not even a bathroom?

 

Yea, TiTi was lethargic last night, then she began to walk wobbly.
Scary, I know.

 

Shoot, Gussie. Mama's got stuff to do. Perk up little one. And surf....surf....surf. He's flirting with but not swimming with those finned creatures. Be fantastic if he'd surf there!

Marilyn and Polly

 

He's not walking just looking kind of out of it sort of snoozing but snapping his tail

 

I have this really strong ferling of dejavu, and strangely both of you were there! Oooweeeeoooo

 

Gotta love a gravy bump..just 10 min shy of +5 bumped to 65

 

Called my schools and tho I will have to make up the lesson time w the kids I can stay for another hour. That should be enough I'm hoping! Will need advice this evening if he is truly angling for a reduction..

 

Can I use that +4 hrs 50 min as the +5 or do I need to text again at the actual +5 after shot time?

 

Shaking head sadly...would not really work..I'm going to stay, reschedule kids

 

He really looks and is acting out of it, this is new for me...

 

Oh my, I just tuned in. Thank Goodness you had some wiggle room with the other teachers. How is Gussie now?

 

I would give hc and when you gave to leave I would leave more. Abort the cycle n

 

Perhaps with the 20% + or - variance, he really is below 50 and is having a symptomatic hypo. I think if it were me, I would give a bit more gravy and bump him up to the higher and take the reduction tonight.

 

Les, is he acting lethargic and how are his motor skills if he were to walk?

 

Not sure, he is lounging.. I gave him a bit more gravy, he's not into food, and got him to at least track a catnip toy he would not swat at it. But he is now cleaning his butt and belly so I'm thinking he is getting the gravy bump?

 

How do I measure .1 u??

 

Grooming is good.

 

He is doing a full bath, I think he's coming around from whatever that was..he was probably lower at +3 when he trends down..

 

There's info and pictures that show you. I figured Gussie would go OTJ pretty soon.

 

He was very lethargic but seems more alert

 

I thought of you when I read that meter in the 50's!

 

Les, snapping the tail is a sign of aggravation and that is one of the symptoms of hypo. I think he was experiencing a hypo event IMHO . Before you dose tonight, ask the rest of the board what they think. Maybe I am overreacting.

 

Thank you, wow who would have associated those two things...not me! He's still doing it..

 

What is his number now?

 

Glad you are staying home with Gussie!!! Not to alarm you, but acting spaced out and weird can also be symptoms of seizures as well as hypos. Seizures go along with Hypos too. Been there and done that.

 

Once when Bubba was low, he did the same thing, acting like he was really agitated and was tail snapping.

 

Hey Sandi, would he snap out of it quickly and start grooming if it were a seizure. I don't have any experience with one and a feline. Just humans

 

Yikes..boy am I glad A) that I came home
B) that I can stay and especially
C) that he is bumping up, just tested at 70 tho he still looks groggy and the tail is still going

 

I am so glad that you can stay with him. It looks like he typically nadirs at +4. Is that why you chose now to come home?

 

I'm not so sure he was hypo. JMHO of course. You mentioned he's been a bit agitated lately. I'm glad you could stay home. This all confirms it was good I retired before Max became diabetic, especially with the last witch I had as a principal.

Last night those flat cycles had me thinking the reduction was coming.

 

Yes, I try to be home at the Nadir! I know he has a relatively early one and typically that's when he has done his diving

 

When you first arrived home today what was he doing? Just trying to get an idea of what has happened.

 

Yes, they can snap out of it quickly! Grooming is definitely a good sign!! Shoes had a 2nd mini hypo a month after his almost fatal one and in the mini one, he was staring into space while sitting in a weird place in the house so my spidey senses told me to check him and he was 30! And after getting the high carb food for several minutes, he was okay and normal.

 

Now that's a scary notion. Some of my students seize but I would have no clue what to do for him. I did have a cat with cancer who seized toward the end, bad seizures so I've seen it but felt pretty helpless at the time

 

He was just laying on the bed against the pillows ( where he still is, hasn't moved really other than to sit up and groom a little,) and not really acknowledging I'd come in until I touched him

 

dreams.

 

Rover had that staring into space hypo before I joined the forum. He also walked like a first-time drunk teenager, unaware of anything but putting one foot forward. See what Gussie is like on his feet (even though it will make that tail lash). Hands close by.

 

yea. Sounds too dangerous to leave him anyway.

 

New to me, too. Not the aggravation, but as a symptom of hypo? duh.

 

Sorry, he just threw 25 on his +6, hit the honey on the gumsand HC gravy, and yes he is coordinated as he took off around the bed..
Retested and he is @65. I am praying that was a bad test strip

 

Did it look like he knew where he was going when he took off? An ER vet once told me that a hypo can look like what she termed "brain blind."

 

Well it looked intention driven to me but I'm not sure, I was pretty freaked

 

We've got honey everywhere....

 

I just got him tomeatbsome LC with a dash of honey, notbsurevhow much but he did lap it. He is bathing the honey off now

 

Ok will do once he finishes his bath, he's pretty PO'd
Eta which I'm guessing is a good sign. He just walked back to the top of the bed, still bathing

 

Geez I even told him I've got the message, he's ready to be done with this stuff, no need to prove it any more...

 

Haha just realized why this happened...we did not add Anti Jinx to our condo about what he might be up to today!

 

He went down to 25?

 

Cat's motto: when in doubt, wash.

I have to go out now before places close for the weekend. Are you good? Enough beans around?

Glad it didn't happen on a Tuesday and you have the weekend ahead of you. And that's a lovely cozy bed to spend the weekend in.

 

Yeah thank you, I think we should be moving upward given how much sugar he's had....appreciate the help!
Les

 

I am Soooo praying that was a wonky test strip but yep that's what it said!

 

I haven't moved so fast in some time!

 

Well done. Keep testing. I repeat your own great advice. Breathe.

 

Aw thanks!! Will do! That and clean up the honey all over everywhere.

 

Cancelled the rest of my lessons..I'm here for the duration now..will deal w whatever fall out there is when it happens!

 

And filled him w honey and HC and some LC for good measure when he threw that 25!

 

It's really really hard to deal with FD when one has to work, isn't it? But you did a great job!

 

When I saw Doodles 26 that morning I gave him a whole bowl of HC and honey. Was it a bad strip? Don't know but who's into taking chances. Glad you're home.

 

Wow! Well done and so glad you were home. Come on Gussie, message received, now be safe.

 

Still working the tail but looking far more alert and Gussie-like

 

How scary!!! So glad that you came home and were able to stay with him. The latest picture sure looks more alert! ...and he's a very handsome boy. Love orange tabbies.

 

Thanks guys, so appreciate the support and counsel!

 

Ok we're out of the woods I think, +6.5 114
Big sigh and big thanks

 

Need to correct the times somehow I'm screwed up. Will fix thread title and Asa's, sorry bout that. They are not way off but the fractions throw me off

 

Max's lowest was in the 30's but I was checking every 30 and feeding hc. If you aren't going back to work I would test again in an hour to be sure.

 

Will do! Thanks! Nope staying here...

 

I knew that but wanted to be sure. A glass of wine might be called for soon.

 

Les, I just tuned back in, had to give my mom very late lunch. Oh my, Oh my! My heart is racing for you!

 

Woah Woah Woah!!!!! Too much excitement Gussie!!! Momma bean gets it, you will get a reduction!

Les, I am so happy you are home to take care of him. You are doing great!!!

 

Or two or three...

 

Thanks! I think mine is getting back to a regular beat, good thing I run a low BP!

 

I actually am laughing at how fast I got moving when I saw that 25! Good thing I learned what to do this summer!!

 

Glad you are laughing!

 

I know I couldn't do it. You ladies are amazing that do

 

Guessing you could...! Sugar Moms are the toughest!

 

Ok we are definitely out of the woods and headed for big numbers!
+7 140!

 

Apparently I hit the emergency brake a bit hard....

 

Lesson? When he throws a 25 type number retest right away, BEFORE applying the emergency brake! Filed for future reference in the must know file...

 

That's how we learn! You are doing great!

 

I try not to make the same mistakes too many times! He is really grouchy, and some of that HC and honey seems to be wearing off, down from 140 to 126 in the last 30 so hoping he settles into. Nice number before PM shot time...

 

Never really hit panic, I've come to believe that in the throws of the situation there isn't room for panic! That comes after the fact for me if I look at the What ifs!?

 

A very handsome lad.

 

Thank you!