? 2/22 Ivy Amps 222, +3 193, +6 99, +9 254,Pmps 221, +3 157, +5 64 Libre No peeing, Appetite Low

Staci & Ivy

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2/21/25
Amps 224 Libre

Good morning, well it’s been quite a day yesterday that began with a visit to the vet because Ivy wasn’t eating and I had to syringe feed her breakfast and still was having loose stools.

They had the additional blood from Tuesday’s vet visit run as a CBC to see if anything else was going on.
Pancreatitis looks as though it is not likely based on the result.

Vet said to continue trying to encourage eating and give as much insulin as possible, try to get ondansetron and s. Boulardi on board if possible. Added Mirtazipine yesterday morning.

Last night she ate her dinner very well (mirtazapine kicked in). I gave a full dose of insulin. She did not eat her snacks. I gave some baby food just to get something in her.

I gave her a dose of animal essentials colon rescue, which normally works quite well for her, but she then vomited. I then gave a dose of Cerenia 12 mg and then she vomited again so I gave no further medications which were due last night.
I just decided to let her rest and see what happened.
There was one point around +5 she dipped to the 50s on the Libre so I wanted to give her something to keep her coasting and gave a teaspoon of FF beef MC which seemed to help.
(Desperate times, desperate measures).

This morning, her appetite was not great again. I had to hold the bowl for her and spoon feed most of the regular lamb 6% meal.

I fed her a little bit less than normal. I’m trying not to completely overload her with too much food at one time. I’m hoping to get her to eat a little bit more with each snack this morning, hoping she will be willing to eat for me as the insulin kicks in. I did give a full dose of Lantus.

About 45 minutes before I fed her this morning I did give a dose of ondansetron so I’m hoping that kicks in and helps alleviate any nausea.

I will give another dose later this morning of mirtazapine transdermal.

I have a feeling it’s gonna be another bumpy day.

I did get her T4 results and they were down a little bit to 4.7.
Last month they were 5.2 and we increased her methimazole dose. (Normal high range is 4)

So I am thinking the vet will want to increase her dose, however not until we get her eating situation calmed down and hopefully back to normal.

I would like to give her a dose of S. Boulardi, but I’m a little bit afraid of her vomiting it up.
At some point this morning I’m going to have to try to figure out if I can give that dose to her. She is certainly do for it.

Well, paws crossed that I can keep her eating today. That’s the biggest thing, and we’ll see how her stools look. I saw one tiny, soft poop first thing this morning, still pretty soft.

Hope everyone has a very boring day and a safe surf.
Thank you for all of your support everyone, it’s much appreciated :bighug::bighug:
 
Great news about the lab results and that you were able to keep her safe last night.
Hi Tim, thanks :)
That was a challenge ;)

Just need to get her back eating again.

I just resorted to a trick to try to get her to eat one of her snacks. I gave her some fancy feast. (Maybe it’s 3%, beef pate). She seemed to be interested in that and not her regular food so I figured some food is better than no food, even though I don’t like giving her canned foods:rolleyes:
But, I need her to eat something so the second round I spiked the FF with some of her regular food and she ate that too, so as long as it has the stinky FF in it, maybe I can keep her eating.
New trick, hope it keeps working:smuggrin:

Hope you and Pookey have a wonderful day :bighug::cat::bighug:
 
Hi Tim, thanks :)
That was a challenge ;)

Just need to get her back eating again.

I just resorted to a trick to try to get her to eat one of her snacks. I gave her some fancy feast. (Maybe it’s 3%, beef pate). She seemed to be interested in that and not her regular food so I figured some food is better than no food, even though I don’t like giving her canned foods:rolleyes:
But, I need her to eat something so the second round I spiked the FF with some of her regular food and she ate that too, so as long as it has the stinky FF in it, maybe I can keep her eating.
New trick, hope it keeps working:smuggrin:

Hope you and Pookey have a wonderful day :bighug::cat::bighug:
Yep the beef pate is 3%! These cats and their love for FF… hopefully it doesn’t turn her off her normal food going forward. Something I was thinking about overnight, I noticed she has IBD, can that flare up?
 
Yep the beef pate is 3%! These cats and their love for FF… hopefully it doesn’t turn her off her normal food going forward. Something I was thinking about overnight, I noticed she has IBD, can that flare up?
I know the Pierson chart has it listed at 3%.

I found in the past several months that some of those numbers may be “off.”
I noticed especially with the higher carb recipes, I think they have gone through a reformulation, and they’re not as high carb as the chart has them listed. Especially the one listed at 20% gravy lovers. I think they’re more like 14% based on a carb calculator online.
Anyway, they tell me she has some form of IBD and possibly she has a flareup now and then.

It’s been probably three years since she’s had any diarrhea or vomiting issues that I can think of.

The IBD diagnosis is why I have her on a novel protein, which is lamb that I feed her. And normally it seems to suit her well, as I make her food for her.

There’s just no way to know what caused the whole situation this week. She did have sedatives to go to the vet Tuesday, there’s the diabetes the hyperthyroid…. a month ago we increased her hyperthyroid medication, that can cause issues.
So there’s so many different things at work here, it’s hard to pinpoint exactly why.
We just need to get it under control and get her back on track. But, a very good question, and a distinct possibility :banghead:
 
Hi Tim, thanks :)
That was a challenge ;)

Just need to get her back eating again.

I just resorted to a trick to try to get her to eat one of her snacks. I gave her some fancy feast. (Maybe it’s 3%, beef pate). She seemed to be interested in that and not her regular food so I figured some food is better than no food, even though I don’t like giving her canned foods:rolleyes:
But, I need her to eat something so the second round I spiked the FF with some of her regular food and she ate that too, so as long as it has the stinky FF in it, maybe I can keep her eating.
New trick, hope it keeps working:smuggrin:

Hope you and Pookey have a wonderful day :bighug::cat::bighug:
I know it’s not ideal, but I’m glad you found some tricks to get food in her without needing the syringe! Fingers crossed for the rest of the day!
 
I know it’s not ideal, but I’m glad you found some tricks to get food in her without needing the syringe! Fingers crossed for the rest of the day!
Thank you, Eamon. Boy, it’s been a lot these last few days. Trying to find what works is a challenge.

I actually just took Marje’s great suggestion and made a slurry of the S Bouliardi mixed with a tiny bit of baby food and water and gently syringed that in her mouth, instead of pilling her.
That seemed to have gone well and hope she holds that down so we can work on the poop situation
;)
Hope you are having a calm and relaxing weekend :bighug::cat::bighug:
 
I’m glad things are looking up this morning. When Chai had whatever was causing her issue I syringed the s boulartdii just like you did. My vet always stresses to feed very small amounts often especially when the appetite stimulant kicks in because too much food will make them feel yucky and possibly vomit. I’m hoping you have a better day. Remember the 50’s are normal and the libre often reads lower in low bg. :bighug:
 
Hi Staci,
Sounds like Ivy's tummy isn't feeling all that good yet this morning. Hope she gets some rest and recover from this soon.
You must be exhausted too. Hope you get to relax a bit over the weekend.
Happy to hear that her T4 showed a lower number! Sounds like a little more push is needed though, once Ivy recovers from the current issue?
Sending you warm hugs and relaxing vibes your way! :bighug::bighug::bighug::bighug::bighug:
 
I’m glad things are looking up this morning. When Chai had whatever was causing her issue I syringed the s boulartdii just like you did. My vet always stresses to feed very small amounts often especially when the appetite stimulant kicks in because too much food will make them feel yucky and possibly vomit. I’m hoping you have a better day. Remember the 50’s are normal and the libre often reads lower in low bg. :bighug:
Hi Elise, do you know how long it takes for the appetite stimulant to kick in? She won’t be fed until dinner time tonight, which will be about six hours after I give the stimulant.

Thanks so much for checking in with us.
:bighug::bighug:
 
Hi Staci,
Sounds like Ivy's tummy isn't feeling all that good yet this morning. Hope she gets some rest and recover from this soon.
You must be exhausted too. Hope you get to relax a bit over the weekend.
Happy to hear that her T4 showed a lower number! Sounds like a little more push is needed though, once Ivy recovers from the current issue?
Sending you warm hugs and relaxing vibes your way! :bighug::bighug::bighug::bighug::bighug:
Hi Kit, she’s definitely not feeling a lot better yet. She still struggling and it certainly very intense. Hoping she’ll turn the corner sooner rather than later.

hoping when we do make a change with her T4 meds that’s the magic number and we get there already. It’s been almost a year of this slow push to some kind of regulation :blackeye:
Thanks for checking in on us:)

Hope you’re having a calm and relaxing weekend:bighug::bighug::bighug::bighug::bighug:
 
Hi Staci,

Sorry to see that Ivy is not feeling well. Hope today is a better day for both of you. :bighug: Sending hugs. Hope you can both get some rest.
 
I'm glad you have a diagnosis now Staci, and I hope Ivy starts responding to meds and feeling better soon.
Are you able to rest and recover a bit from what sounds like an absolute ordeal for you both?
Sending love from half-way across the world :bighug:
 
Hi Staci. With Tiger it takes only 20-30 minutes before the appetite stimulant to start working. I usually see full on effects in an hour or so. Oddly with him the effects last for days.
 
Thank you, Eamon. Boy, it’s been a lot these last few days. Trying to find what works is a challenge.

I actually just took Marje’s great suggestion and made a slurry of the S Bouliardi mixed with a tiny bit of baby food and water and gently syringed that in her mouth, instead of pilling her.
That seemed to have gone well and hope she holds that down so we can work on the poop situation
;)
Hope you are having a calm and relaxing weekend :bighug::cat::bighug:
That’s great to hear, hopefully helping her stomach feel better will help her appetite! Hope you get some rest soon!
 
Awww, I'm so sorry that you and Ivy are going through this! Poor sweet girl. It's so hard when you can't get them to do something as basic and necessary as eating.

I can't claim to have any valuable insight but I hope some combination of the anti-nausea meds and the appetite stimulant help! Great that pancreatitis isn't looking like the issue. Hopefully it's nothing else serious either.

Thinking of you both! :bighug:
 
Hi Staci I and Ivy are going through this. It's a mystery why this started in the first place. I know you don't like feeding any fancy feast , but at least she ate some mixed with her lamb. That was a great idea. Do you think instead of adding the fancy feast you can sprinkle some Bonita flakes on her lamb or will it affect her IBD since it is fish

I found this posted by one of our mods to another one of our members

If he has a fish allergy, bonita flakes (tuna) are not a good idea. My food allergy (IBD) girl hurls at the least hint of fish.

I hope her eating will improve and the poop situation. Good to hear. The T4 came back a little better , when the vet does increase the med it will be the major dose :bighug::bighug::bighug::bighug::bighug::cat:
 
Poor Ivy! I'm so sorry she's continuing to feel puny, Staci. I hope you can get her stabilized soon. I know how distressing it is for us when they are ill and we're doing our best to get them better. Keeping you both in my thoughts.
 
Had she been consistently drinking, and did she pee last night along with the loose stool you mentioned?
Not drinking today. Just sleeping. Last time she peed was last night. And only 3 times yesterday, which is less than get normal of 4-5 times a day.
Vet felt she wasn’t dehydrated yesterday in the am.
Maybe she is now though.
We are headed to the ER and o didn’t sedate her so that will be an issue if they want to take blood.

The injectable sedation is terrible for her. :blackeye:
 
Not drinking today. Just sleeping. Last time she peed was last night. And only 3 times yesterday, which is less than get normal of 4-5 times a day.
Vet felt she wasn’t dehydrated yesterday in the am.
Maybe she is now though.
We are headed to the ER and o didn’t sedate her so that will be an issue if they want to take blood.

The injectable sedation is terrible for her. :blackeye:
❤️ Glad you’re taking her in where they can get an expert opinion. Keep us posted, we’re here for you both ❤️
 
Not for her. I did for a previous cat.
Never had to. And she’s very spicy.
The thing I would be worried about is dehydration because that can happen quickly. I noticed She has CKD, and if you were giving fluids, that really wouldn't be an issue.

I know you're looking for expert opinion here, and I'm not that, but I will say that I have never regretted taking my cats to the vet when they weren't doing something they were supposed to be doing like peeing, pooping, or eating.
 
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Not drinking today. Just sleeping. Last time she peed was last night. And only 3 times yesterday, which is less than get normal of 4-5 times a day.
Vet felt she wasn’t dehydrated yesterday in the am.
Maybe she is now though.
We are headed to the ER and o didn’t sedate her so that will be an issue if they want to take blood.

The injectable sedation is terrible for her. :blackeye:
Good plan! If nothing, it will give you peace of mind. Please keep us updated on her condition.
 
They are giving fluids and a Cerenia injection.
Hopefully will be done soon.

I need to get home to hope she will eat and get insulin on Schedule. It will be close.

The vet doesn’t really see anything specific wrong. Mostly just somewhat dehydrated.

She peed as they were examining her. Maybe pressed on her bladder. She said bladder wasn’t too full. Urine was dark and very concentrated.

Doesn’t think she’s constipated. .

She thinks the sedation and fasting was just a lot for her to go through and just created a bad scenario when we went to the vet on Tuesday.

She thinks I should try only gabapentin for vet visits and labs and try to eliminate the trazodone.
And don’t fast her either for labs.

I think it’s all just too much for her fragile system.

They managed to examine her with no sedation but of course she was her spicy self!
Will update more later. :bighug::bighug::bighug:
 
Awww...poor little baby! I'm hoping the fluids and Cerenia will get her back to normal. I'm also hoping she'll eat enough so that you can give her her shot.
 
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They are giving fluids and a Cerenia injection.
Hopefully will be done soon.

I need to get home to hope she will eat and get insulin on Schedule. It will be close.

The vet doesn’t really see anything specific wrong. Mostly just somewhat dehydrated.

She peed as they were examining her. Maybe pressed on her bladder. She said bladder wasn’t too full. Urine was dark and very concentrated.

Doesn’t think she’s constipated. .

She thinks the sedation and fasting was just a lot for her to go through and just created a bad scenario when we went to the vet on Tuesday.

She thinks I should try only gabapentin for vet visits and labs and try to eliminate the trazodone.
And don’t fast her either for labs.

I think it’s all just too much for her fragile system.

They managed to examine her with no sedation but of course she was her spicy self!
Will update more later. :bighug::bighug::bighug:

Im happy to hear they didn’t find anything major. Hopefully some restful time at home and she’ll be back to her normal self!
 
Awww...poor little baby! I'm hoping the fluids and Cerenia will get her back to normal. I'm also hoping she'll eat enough so that you can giver her her shot.
Same. Thanks, Mary.
And we will be late with meal and shot. So frustrating they move so slow. And the ER wasn’t even packed (very lucky about that!)
:blackeye:
 
Hoping the cerenia and fluids help quickly. Cerenia by injection is so much better when they have vomiting especially. Prayers and hugs she eats tonight. The fluids should also help her a lot. I’m so glad you took her in to the er and they were able to examine her. Her being spicy is a good sign!
 
Hoping the cerenia and fluids help quickly. Cerenia by injection is so much better when they have vomiting especially. Prayers and hugs she eats tonight. The fluids should also help her a lot. I’m so glad you took her in to the er and they were able to examine her. Her being spicy is a good sign!
Thanks Deb, I sure hope this helps her. She’s never really needed fluids from what I can remember.

We are late, giving her dinner and shot and now she’s so focused on cleaning herself from whatever went on at the vet hospital that I can’t get her to eat her meal even though I already gave her a shot. She ate a little bit first, but I need to get her to finish eating. :nailbiting:
:bighug::bighug::bighug:
 
Thanks Deb, I sure hope this helps her. She’s never really needed fluids from what I can remember.

We are late, giving her dinner and shot and now she’s so focused on cleaning herself from whatever went on at the vet hospital that I can’t get her to eat her meal even though I already gave her a shot. She ate a little bit first, but I need to get her to finish eating. :nailbiting:
:bighug::bighug::bighug:
Maybe a little appetite supplement would help her focus, if you haven’t already….good luck she eats.
 
I am glad you went to the ER and there is nothing major going on. Hopefully, the fluids and Cerenia injection will kick in. Come on Ivy please eat some more.
I am happy her T4 levels numbers came down some. Paws crossed Ivy back to herself very soon.
We are sending prayers and lots of hugs to you both. :bighug::bighug::bighug:
 
I am glad you went to the ER and there is nothing major going on. Hopefully, the fluids and Cerenia injection will kick in. Come on Ivy please eat some more.
I am happy her T4 levels numbers came down some. Paws crossed Ivy back to herself very soon.
We are sending prayers and lots of hugs to you both. :bighug::bighug::bighug:
Thanks so much, Madeline. She needs to feel better soon. :bighug::bighug::bighug:
 
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